FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #33

[ChickenPants]

I'd like to add, there are a lot of fathers on disability who still provide for their children.
There is no excuse for him not supporting them financially.
There is no excuse that he did not have a clue what was going on with them for 2 years.
I know he is disabled, but he found a way to get to Florida for Somer's funeral...why not before?

CPC not paying his child support is not an issue here IMO because it has nothing to do with DT's children. They are not CPCs children. They are ST's children.

Of course, that MOO

CPC's not paying child support IS AN ISSUE HERE if it means that, by not paying support for his own children, he had more money on hand that could have been used to assist in providing after school care for the Thompson children. After all, he lived in the rent-free home. One would think they shared other expenses. Unless DT told him she would take care of everything pertaining to her children with her $14.00 an hour income. The issue is "FINANCIAL BURDEN".

 

[Kimberlyd125]

CPC's not paying child support IS AN ISSUE HERE if it means that, by not paying support for his own children, he had more money on hand that could have been used to assist in providing after school care for the Thompson children. After all, he lived in the rent-free home. One would think they shared other expenses. Unless DT told him she would take care of everything pertaining to her children with her $14.00 an hour income. The issue is "FINANCIAL BURDEN".

We will have to agree to disagree on this.
ST's children...he should have provided for them.
CPC's support issues have nothing to do with Somer. IMO

ETA: How do we know he lived in a "rent free" home?
We do not know how the finances were handled in that home.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Yet the 7 year old was unsupervised when falling prey to a killer. She was allowed to roam unsupervised for one hour at a time. The time window of a 7 year child being missing was almost 2 hours before an adult searched for her (2:30 dismissal to let's say 4:30 when DT searched for her). IMO

Somer ran off when she was with her siblings.No one saw that coming.Every one really needs to back things up with fact as it pertains to Somers case when they post things.It really does concern me why people are trying so hard to slander her mother and that's exactly what people are trying to do.It's really sad and ill.I'll come back when there are more leads to slueth.I pray there is an arrest soon and this pretty little girl gets justice like she deserves.All this needs to end.I agree with Somers mother.Have you walked in her shoes.Honestly what would you really do?My prayers are with Somer and her mother and family and I pray God comforts them.This is all very sad.My heart really goes out to them.

 

[ChickenPants]

Yet the 7 year old was unsupervised when falling prey to a killer. She was allowed to roam unsupervised for one hour at a time. The time window of a 7 year child being missing was almost 2 hours before an adult searched for her (2:30 dismissal to let's say 4:30 when DT searched for her). IMO

I have come to realize that this discussion is a waste of time. All of the facts have been posted. I am not interested in getting the last word. The truth will set you free.

The mother had other things more important in her life than taking care of her children. One of them is dead. These are the only facts that really matter. LE will take care of it.

 

[ChickenPants]

I know what the federal laws are, I was a preschool teacher for many years.
I understand the whole chain of reports of abuse or neglect. Trust me.

The article stated DT did cooperate. Where is all the info regarding lies found?

Cooperated with investigation.
Declined to follow recommendations (i.e., did not cooperate in making after school arrangements even if free).

The end.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Opinions differ.
That's part of discussion IMO.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Cooperated with investigation.
Declined to follow recommendations (i.e., did not cooperate in making after school arrangements even if free).

The end.

Recommendations - not orders.
DT did nothing wrong here IMO.

 

[sadnpod]

I'd like to add, there are a lot of fathers on disability who still provide for their children.
There is no excuse for him not supporting them financially.
There is no excuse that he did not have a clue what was going on with them for 2 years.
I know he is disabled, but he found a way to get to Florida for Somer's funeral...why not before?

CPC not paying his child support is not an issue here IMO because it has nothing to do with DT's children. They are not CPCs children. They are ST's children.

Of course, that MOO

We do not know that ST did not pay child support. BTW there are two fathers who should have been supporting these kids. They are not PC's children, you are right, but he enjoyed playing the part when I observed them. He helped to financially support this household, or DT is even more self centered than I thought and allowed a man to live in her house free, eat drink, sleep and smoke... does anyone really believe that?

ST found a way to get to FL because his friends donated a handicap vehicle and money for him to do so. Why not before? Because she would not let him see them, so he had to get legal council first, something he could not afford, and no vehicle to get there. He lost his child too. Where is the sympathy, fundraising for him? He served his country honorably, he is disabled. It takes years to receive disability benefts from the military. Is that his fault?

What reason did she have to not let him see them or talk to them? RUMOR is that she is willing to negotiate visitation now.. to settle custody out of court.

What has changed about ST now that she is willing to do this and not before?

NOthing that I can see. Except the public eye watching.....

YOu dont pay to see your kids. visitation and child support are apples and oranges. As a mother who puts her children first, their relationship with their father should be more important than child support.

Speculation, rumors, and my opinions only.

 

[ChickenPants]

Somer ran off when she was with her siblings.No one saw that coming.Every one really needs to back things up with fact as it pertains to Somers case when they post things.It really does concern me why people are trying so hard to slander her mother and that's exactly what people are trying to do.It's really sad and ill.I'll come back when there are more leads to slueth.I pray there is an arrest soon and this pretty little girl gets justice like she deserves.All this needs to end.I agree with Somers mother.Have you walked in her shoes.Honestly what would you really [/B]do?My prayers are with Somer and her mother and family and I pray God comforts them.This is all very sad.My heart really goes out to them.

1. Quit school if I was in school.
2. Take my children to school and pick them up, no matter how much I cried.
3. Have a fool proof back up plan for child supervision with TRUSTED FAMILY
OR FRIENDS, not "neighbors"
4. Stay away from fund-raiswers where I or my children would be looked at
by strangers.
5. Rid myself of any males in the household.
6. Be very selective of who I associated with.
7. Spend every possible moment with my kids, knowing that in any circumstance, injury, death, accident, life is fragile. A very hard lesson in the case of Somer.
8. Find one story and stick with it - the truth.
9. Use the truth as a way to be accountable for my own responsibilities and as a warning to other parents who might not supervise their own children. That's the best way to make good out of a bad situation.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Cooperated with investigation.
Declined to follow recommendations (i.e., did not cooperate in making after school arrangements even if free).

The end.

The report said she cooperated.Apparantly it was not free and again it was not recommended.It was agreed she did not have to have day care if it caused a finacial burden.Again.They closed the case.

 

[sadnpod]

Somer ran off when she was with her siblings.No one saw that coming.Every one really needs to back things up with fact as it pertains to Somers case when they post things.It really does concern me why people are trying so hard to slander her mother and that's exactly what people are trying to do.It's really sad and ill.I'll come back when there are more leads to slueth.I pray there is an arrest soon and this pretty little girl gets justice like she deserves.All this needs to end.I agree with Somers mother.Have you walked in her shoes.Honestly what would you really do?My prayers are with Somer and her mother and family and I pray God comforts them.This is all very sad.My heart really goes out to them.

BBM
It is really sad. But she has a father too that deserves respect and sympathy too and consideration for what it is like to roll in his wheelchair. THe one person I know who wishes he could walk in her shoes.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

But, it was 2 years??????
2 years is a long time.

I have sympathy for ST, he lost his child.
But, at least DT was in their lives. IMO she was trying to do for them the best she could.

There are free or discounted legal avenues for parents/custody issues for those who need it.
Did he look into that?

IMO H377 or high water could not keep me away from my children for 2 years. JMO

 

[nursebeeme]

This was an unsupervised, vulnerable child being targeted. IMO

I completely agree.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

1. Quit school if I was in school.
2. Take my children to school and pick them up, no matter how much I cried.
3. Have a fool proof back up plan for child supervision with TRUSTED FAMILY
OR FRIENDS, not "neighbors"
4. Stay away from fund-raiswers where I or my children would be looked at
by strangers.
5. Rid myself of any males in the household.
6. Be very selective of who I associated with.
7. Spend every possible moment with my kids, knowing that in any circumstance, injury, death, accident, life is fragile. A very hard lesson in the case of Somer.
8. Find one story and stick with it - the truth.
9. Use the truth as a way to be accountable for my own responsibilities and as a warning to other parents who might not supervise their own children. That's the best way to make good out of a bad situation.

???? These aren't facts.No one knows all the facts in Somers case.Maybe we should just let the police do thier jobs.I won't discuss it any more.It's not helping to find out what happened to little Somer.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

BBM
It is really sad. But she has a father too that deserves respect and sympathy too and consideration for what it is like to roll in his wheelchair. THe one person I know who wishes he could walk in her shoes.

They both deserve respect.NOT slandering of any kind.Somer was thier pretty little girl.

 

[sadnpod]

But, it was 2 years??????
2 years is a long time.

I have sympathy for ST, he lost his child.
But, at least DT was in their lives. IMO she was trying to do for them the best she could.

There are free or discounted legal avenues for parents/custody issues for those who need it.
Did he look into that?

IMO H377 or high water could not keep me away from my children for 2 years. JMO

Check into how long it takes te receive military benefits, for some it is much longer than two years, as it has been in his case. You cannot receive free legal or discounted council to initiate a court case, only to defend yourself in one.

He was trying the best he could too, she was not agreeable to him seeing them.. the real question is why?

Why did she not want their father in their lives? Or AC's? Why is one child living with her father? What does she not want these kids to say to their fathers or child care providers? What would they learn if they did?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

My answers in red to avoid confussion....and BBM

Check into how long it takes te receive military benefits, for some it is much longer than two years, as it has been in his case. You cannot receive free legal or discounted council to initiate a court case, only to defend yourself in one. I don't know about other parts of the country, but that's not true here where children's issues are involved. There is legal aide for family counsel here...my sister had to use it.

He was trying the best he could too, she was not agreeable to him seeing them.. the real question is why? I don't know...maybe she had her reasons

Why did she not want their father in their lives? Or AC's? Why is one child living with her father? What does she not want these kids to say to their fathers or child care providers? What would they learn if they did That's a bit of a stretch isn't it? ?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Questions for you guys. Sorry if it has already been talked about. Why is there a social worker at Somers school and why would she report something that wasn't true?



ORANGE PARK — A social worker at Somer Thompson’s school warned about the danger of the 7-year-old girl’s walks from school a year before a killer snatched her on her way home, state records show.

But a two-week probe by Children and Families concluded the allegation about the children getting lost and being found with a stranger had no basis.

 

[pinamia]

I completely agree.

How nobody stopped this behavior is beyond me. I am so sad for Somer and everyday I think about her and why and hate that I can't do anything about it. I hate the killer too but I'm still in a daze on how this killer was given such an easy opportunity to kill her. She was just 7. I have a 6 year old who looks a lot like Somer. So this seems personal to me. I just wish they would get this slime off the street already. It's got to be someone young.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I keep thinking CPC's former wife or girlfriends if he had any before hooking up with DT need to be looked at close in this case. Just a gut feeling.