FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #35

[Chili Fries]

The problem with this case is that DT and her men friends are the only possible suspects who had a known relationship with Somer that we know a lot about. But at the same time this isn't like JonBenet where the probability of it being the two known suspects was very high. So in way I think viewing DT, SP or PC as a main suspect is kind of grasping at straws but they shouldn't be ruled out also.

 

[dar107]

That is the exact problem. There have been the inconsistencies on the police report.

And they have POINTEDLY not cleared the family, even thought DT has gotten death threats. Does that make sense to you? Does that sound responsible at all to put DT and her family at risk by LE for no reason except to play a game?

If that's the point, they could play a different game to befuddle the perp.

In my post I was stating the reasons why I think some things make sense. For DT to lie right off the bat on which office she was working at would raise huge questions from LE and i think we would be more aware LE suspected someone from the house. I don't see anything as LE playing a game, i see it as them trying to catch a killer. I wasn't aware the DT has gotten death threats, just that she has gotten nasty letters from people saying awful things about her, but hopefully if she has, LE are investigating anyone involved in that. Making death threats against someone is serious and they should be charged. The world is full of crazies unfortunatly.

Do you think lie detector tests were given to DT and other adults close to Somer?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

The problem with this case is that DT and her men friends are the only possible suspects who had a known relationship with Somer that we know a lot about. But at the same time this isn't like JonBenet where the probability of it being the two known suspects was very high. So in way I think viewing DT, SP or PC as a main suspect is kind of grasping at straws but they shouldn't be ruled out also.

I agree and have no problem looking at them.

What I have a problem with is the picking apart or trashing a mother for things such as what clothes she wears, how she cries, what side of her eyes her tears fall from... The list goes on and on. And I just don't see how that adds anything to the case. It's just done to cast DT in a horrible light IMO.

ETA: oh, let's not forget the way she sang at the vigil! Lol
that was a real kicker.

 

[pingpong]

If the correct address of DT(at work) listed that day, what would the number be on Kingsley?

 

[Noway]

If the dogs lost her scent at Gano and Debarry, wouldn't she have already been PAST the burned house on Gano? If the scent could have been from days ago on her regular walk home, would it have just suddenly stopped before it went on to her home? If she was picked up by a car at the point they lost her scent, isn't there a crossing guard there at that intersection who would have seen it?

According to one WS member's son, who talked to the crossing guard at Grove Park and Gano, Somer never made it that far - just one house over from the 1080 Gano house. If she never made it that far, she never made it to Gano and Debarry where the dogs lost her scent. Unless she was somewhere else till the crossing guard at Gano and Grove Park and the one at Gano and Debarry had already gone for the day then made it to Gano and Debarry AFTER the crossing guards were gone. Does anyone know what time the crossing guards for those two intersections leave for the day?

There were several dogs tracking her scent ... the Sheriff talked about the dogs (plural) being the best in the state.

No offense to Kahlua, but this dog lost her scent there ... but it does not mean that the other dogs did too. The only dog activities reported in depth were Kahlua's. Is he the fall dog for all the dogs having lost her scent? Or did one of the other dogs pick up her scent somewhere else?

I wondered whether that was part of the CCSO being quiet about what they knew and were Somer might have been when she was killed (crime scene).

The vacant house on Gano is reportedly where she was last seen by Kyle.

But if one of the other dogs DID find her scent along the way (past DeBarry and Gano or in the park across from Gano or wherever) there is no way to know whether that scent was from Monday or a previous day either.

I've never been able to find anything that said the crossing guards worked from # p.m. to ## p.m., so if any GPE locals could give input on the times the crossing guards on Gano and Miller/Grove Park/DeBarry work I would appreciate it. I don't care about any other crossing guards anywhere else in the world. I only want to know about these 3 crossing guards who are on Somer's route home.

 

[Noway]

If the correct address of DT(at work) listed that day, what would the number be on Kingsley?

Info on MPR
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/10/22/police.report.pdf

Doctors Imray [and Gesek]
2047 Park Street
904.388.7667
Jacksonville, FL 32204

Info on Imray/Gesek website
http://www.oralsurgeryparkstreet.com/

Orange Park
904.264.7383
1409 Kingsley Ave., Bldg. 5
Orange Park, FL 32073

Jacksonville
904.388.7665
904.388.7664 (fax)
2047 Park St.
Jacksonville, FL 32204



It looks like all the information that Diena provided was for the office in Jacksonville. JMO

That could have been what employees were supposed to do. It may not have been a deliberate attempt to confuse law enforcement. JMO

 

[sadnpod]

Or maybe you could say those who were not there for Somer in life are not there keeping her story alive now that she's gone.

DT was there for her in life and thank God she's there to keep her story alive now that she's gone.

Not all of America are WSers and are continuing to follow this case. Most people only have heard what has been on the national news.

I commend DT for not wanting the world to forget about Somer.

Seriously? She wasnt there for her in life.. it was all about her. It still is. This interview was all about her and what a great mother she was and how she is still being picked on when she is down. Lets put on purple and fly to New York and post pretty unseen til now pics to show the real somer. Again, no problem leaving the other kids to do this. Priorities. She could have accomplished the same thing in Jax, if it was to keep the public eye on somer. But it wasnt. Good for mom.. get away from it all... have a nice time in New York.. let the neighbors and gma worry about the other kids.. after all thats her MO.

 

[sadnpod]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295789,00.html

Not related to somers case... but makes you go... hmmmm

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Seriously? She wasnt there for her in life.. it was all about her. It still is. This interview was all about her and what a great mother she was and how she is still being picked on when she is down. Lets put on purple and fly to New York and post pretty unseen til now pics to show the real somer. Again, no problem leaving the other kids to do this. Priorities. She could have accomplished the same thing in Jax, if it was to keep the public eye on somer. But it wasnt. Good for mom.. get away from it all... have a nice time in New York.. let the neighbors and gma worry about the other kids.. after all thats her MO.

Yes, seriously. It's how I feel and why I posted it.

IMO she was the only parent active in Somer's life and she's the only one doing anything now to keep Somer's story out there.

I know you are friends with ST. Maybe that's why you don't see it that way.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

How can anybody say she was not there for Somer?

I don't get that. Somer lived with DT and DT provided for her. I've seen nothing that would make me think Somer was somehow neglected by DT. Oh, there was that report that was unfounded. But unfounded means unfounded IMO.

IMO she was taken care of and loved daily by her mother with help from her mothers parents. That's not unusual since she was a single working mother who would need help with the kids from time to time.

 

[human]

Yes, seriously. It's how I feel and why I posted it.

IMO she was the only parent active in Somer's life and she's the only one doing anything now to keep Somer's story out there.

I know you are friends with ST. Maybe that's why you don't see it that way.

I think that she should be out there telling people about Somer. It seems nothing is happening, but the Casey Anthony case was so obvious to me that I had no interest in it whatsoever.

The first time that it came out in the news, I knew she was involved. (Casey) It was a no brainer. Even with all of the evidence LE had in that case, it took so long.

I think because of so many cases whee the family has been involved, people are looking at the family.

We know that the family is blameless in so many cases. Families have had nothing to do with anything except for existing on the planet.

But it would be foolish to ignore obvious things with this family that don't seem right and cause people to wonder.

LE is not giving any indications, so I know I would be concerned if I had children in OP.

I hope for everyone's sake, that LE does know and is just tying up loose ends. People are still on Casey's team, after all, so LE's case better be tight in this one.

I'm not saying DT did it or didn't. I am saying that for whomever it is, they want it bullet proof.

Are there no rumors out there?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Yeah, it was obvious in Caylee's case. And, her mother was the last to see her.
Not so in this case.
There was physical evidence that Casey did it.
Not so in this case that we know of.

I have no problem looking at the family.
Just not trashing with no evidence.

JMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

If I had to pick someone in that house to be a suspect, with the information we know of...it would be SP.
He's shadey IMO.
He was alone in the house waiting for the children.

Other than him, I don't see it.

I think, with what we know, it was a stranger or one of the construction workers that Somer was familier with. This Kyle guy peeks my interest in a big way. The Vinsons do too.

I hope there is good evidence that comes from the testing they are still waiting on.
I believe they are waiting on things from the Gano house and from the Vinson house, their truck and trailer.

 

[human]

Yeah, it was obvious in Caylee's case. And, her mother was the last to see her.
Not so in this case.
There was physical evidence that Casey did it.
Not so in this case that we know of.

I have no problem looking at the family.
Just not trashing with no evidence.

JMO

To you it's trashing, to other's it is evidence of looking at things deeper.

My guess is that you have had something happen to you or someone else that makes it difficult to look at a family possibility. That would be understandable.

But there are people who do see things that seem as red flags to them . It is evidence to them, just not to you.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

To you it's trashing, to other's it is evidence of looking at things deeper.

My guess is that you have had something happen to you or someone else that makes it difficult to look at a family possibility. That would be understandable.

But there are people who do see things that seem as red flags to them . It is evidence to them, just not to you.

Nothing ever happened to me or anyone else I know that makes it difficult to look at a family possibility.
I'm willing to look at the family possibility.

But please tell me how what a mother wears, or how she sings, or what corner of the eye a tear falls from is evidence? Not just to me but to anybody?

 

[human]

Nothing ever happened to me or anyone else I know that makes it difficult to look at a family possibility.
I'm willing to look at the family possibility.

But please tell me how what a mother wears, or how she sings, or what corner of the eye a tear falls from is evidence? Not just to me but to anybody?

Because there are studies and experts who do that exact thing-look at people and how they stand, sit, talk, etc.

People who are professional gamblers are experts at "tells" . Looking at what people do to see what kind of cards others are holding and bidding on.

There are corporations who tell bosses how to stand, where to sit, etc to gain control over others such as employees or competitors.

There are instructions on how meetings should be set up and how they should be run to limit public participation in them if some company is trying to ram something unpalatable onto the community.

Homeland security may hire a company to scrutinize people's faces and body language to determine what they might be up to .

There is huge science on this, and LE and the FBI are totally cognizant of it and utilize it all of the time.

I'm not into it, but I do see what others have been saying over time on this site.

Do I think DT did it? IDK. Do I think she is hiding something? I am willing to bet all of my money on it. What is she hiding? The killer, or being the killer or other things? Other things-for 100% postiviley sure. Killing-IDK.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Those are all professionals!!!!!

Are there any members here that are professionals at reading body movements? If so, they haven't told us.

Yes, there is a science to it. You have to be trained.

It's almost like it has turned into a game on here. Lets see what else we can find.

How are these people gonna feel when the info comes out that it was a stranger or someone else and they have been so unfair and "concluded" she is guilty of killing her child or covering for someone else by her clothes or tears? I have not seen any professional say they think DT is guilty or hiding something.

I have seen it in other cases. If DT's actions were so obvious that a bunch of members on a crime site knew it from day one, how come no professional is screaming it from the rooftops to help solve this murder?
I mean surely, if people who are not trained can see it, the professionals you listed would have right?

I don't get it.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

BBM

Straight from the Sheriff's mouth.

Ok Thank you.I was asking for a link to it if someone knows.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

If the dogs lost her scent at Gano and Debarry, wouldn't she have already been PAST the burned house on Gano? If the scent could have been from days ago on her regular walk home, would it have just suddenly stopped before it went on to her home? If she was picked up by a car at the point they lost her scent, isn't there a crossing guard there at that intersection who would have seen it?

According to one WS member's son, who talked to the crossing guard at Grove Park and Gano, Somer never made it that far - just one house over from the 1080 Gano house. If she never made it that far, she never made it to Gano and Debarry where the dogs lost her scent. Unless she was somewhere else till the crossing guard at Gano and Grove Park and the one at Gano and Debarry had already gone for the day then made it to Gano and Debarry AFTER the crossing guards were gone. Does anyone know what time the crossing guards for those two intersections leave for the day?

Yes,Maybe she left the house on Gano after the crossing guards left or Somer never left the Gano house.I'm interested to know was soot found on her clothes or Somers body and how much was found on her.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I have not seen any evidence that points to Somers mother at all.It's just not there.I don't see where LE thinks so either.Again hopefully we'll have some more to sleuth soon.I pray we hear of an arrest soon.