FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #35

[sadnpod]

What does Freed's client list have to do with Somer's murder.

I ask this because Noway was told by Hoppy yesterday I believe that she could look into and post about the childrens trust fund if she could tie it to Somers murder.

I ask because I am wondering if he was involved in any other cases to do with human trafficking. Outside of the box thinking. We have no idea what happened to Somer.

This is called sleuthing other avenues that could relate to somers murder.

 

[Dee10]

Dee10, I am lost. What are you wondering if the sheriff said?

When you read the article it is comes across as a press release from DT's lawyer as it only quotes her & spouts him vs. an interview. It is important to know if the sheriff did recommend this or this just a printed press release...very simple, but important to know the facts is all.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Well Sad, we know he is involved in trying to stop human traifficking. That's been in a couple articles I think. Then someone found tonight where his wife is also involved.

Not sure how this ties in. I don't think there has been any info that Somer was sold. It was pretty quick IMO. But, who knows.

She left school and vanished. Her body was thrown away between 2:45 pm and when the garbage ran the next morning. So, I don't know how the trafficking thing would fit.
JMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

When you read the article it is comes across as a press release from DT's lawyer as it only quotes her & spouts him vs. an interview. It is important to know if the sheriff did recommend this or this just a printed press release...very simple, but important to know the facts is all.

I get what you are saying...but my thought on this would be...

Why would Freed or DT say the sheriff did something he didn't do. Esp. in an interview they knew would be published. They would have to know it would get back to the sheriff. What would be the purpose to do that?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Thinking more on the human trafficking thing...

Normally I would think there would be a "buyer" and "seller" in this type of thing.
So, in order for this to happen in this case, Somer would have been abducted and sold by the "seller", bought, assaulted, killed, and disposed of by the "buyer".
Would there have been time for this???

Also, if LE knew or suspected this was a case of trafficking, would that mean they kinda knew who was involved? They would have to have a reason to suspect this was the case right?

Just thinking outloud.

Just because this attorney is active in trying to prevent this from happening, does not mean it would relate to every case. IMO

I just have a hard time seeing it in Somer's case.

But, I guess anything is possible.

Please note: I'm not trying to be right here, just giving my opinions.

 

[Dee10]

I get what you are saying...but my thought on this would be...

Why would Freed or DT say the sheriff did something he didn't do. Esp. in an interview they knew would be published. They would have to know it would get back to the sheriff. What would be the purpose to do that?

Very simply, nobody asked asked the sheriff it appears. The sheriff has not given an update...not likely he is going to give a quote/talk about this IMO.

 

[Noway]

Thinking more on the human trafficking thing...

Normally I would think there would be a "buyer" and "seller" in this type of thing.
So, in order for this to happen in this case, Somer would have been abducted and sold by the "seller", bought, assaulted, killed, and disposed of by the "buyer".
Would there have been time for this???

Also, if LE knew or suspected this was a case of trafficking, would that mean they kinda knew who was involved? They would have to have a reason to suspect this was the case right?

Just thinking outloud.

Just because this attorney is active in trying to prevent this from happening, does not mean it would relate to every case. IMO

I just have a hard time seeing it in Somer's case.

But, I guess anything is possible.

Please note: I'm not trying to be right here, just giving my opinions.

BBM

It was just the way that it was said that made me wonder whether the two (Somer's case and human trafficking) were connected:

“(Diena) contacted me after she had heard about the work my wife and I do raising the awareness of human trafficking,” said Freed. “She asked us if we could help out and it was an easy decision.”

 

[nursebeeme]

The other mods and I have had to finally make the decision that there is to be no discussion of whether Somer's parents were good parents or bad parents. Period.

The discussion here periodically circles back to that topic and all hell breaks loose. You guys have beating a dead horse down to a science.

We are not going to give any warnings about this: you post about it and you will be given an automatic timeout.

The parents are not the issue and we want to keep the discussion on track.

Do us a favor: if someone posts about DT/ST good parent/bad parent, please do not respond to the post. Hit the alert button and we will handle it asap.

Thanks to all of you for caring so much about Somer,

Hoppy
mod

ETA: If anyone wants to bump, link, or copy this post of mine when the good parent/bad parent posts pop up, please do!

bumping up

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I kinda thought that was what a discussion board was for...batting ideas off of each other.

I apologize if you felt I was being defensive.

 

[Dee10]

Kimberyly we are sleuthing why DT got a lawyer, how it all started her getting a lawyer in her words, what he does, what the shefiff said. I guess we are sleuthing & looking for links to put everything together. Hope you are willing to help slueth with links or ideas to help sleuth this avenue.

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

I have tried Sadnpod & I couldn't find anyother cases. I know in that last article it was implied he is an advocate for victims, but I couldn't find any connections or affiliations with groups...no luck on my end. Maybe some others could check??? I just couldn't find a link.

I've also checked and couldn't find a thing

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I provided the link.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=530063 this was the link I provided per your request

see if this works.

Should dispell RUMOR

Snipped from above article....Snipped from that link

but Clay County Sheriff Rick Beseler recommended Jacksonville attorney Mike Freed, who is active in the effort to stop human trafficking and protecting the rights of children victimized by this act. Thompson had one less thing to worry about when Freed pledged his services free of charge.

I thought it said why in the article.....

Snipped from that link
Snipped:

Thompson wasn’t familiar with being part of a police investigation, answering questions from the media or handling money that was donated in honor of Somer. Besides being a liaison between Thompson and the Clay County Sheriff’s Office, Freed has established the Thompson Family Trust through Jacksonville Bank to provide the public a way to donate to the family, developed a group of advisors that review fundraising proposals to weed out possible scams and now advises Thompson on opportunities to speak to the media and the public on her experiences.

http://www.floridabar.org/DIVCOM/PI...fdf19bd1ad4afd8b852576b000547169!OpenDocument

here is a link to the Florida bar website butit links to the article I posted earlier.
Another link and also to let you know I was still digging

Still digging.

I provided the link.

I'm not sure I understand what more you want from me?
I provided what I was referring to.
It's not what you were looking for.
I don't know what else you want me to do.

I can't find a link that quoted the Sheriff directly.

My question was Why would the atty say the sheriff said something he did not say? That's my question. I'm not being defensive. Just wondering what the atty would gain from that. Surely the sheriff would hear of it if the atty blatenly lied about something he said. IMO that tells me the sheriff referred Freed to DT. If he didn't, then if I were the sheriff I'd be po'ed.

 

[txsvicki]

I hope the D.'s attorney tells more about why he believes that the murderer was someone doing something they weren't supposed to be doing, got caught up in perversion, and may never do it again. It was almost like they were talking about a young teen. I wonder if they have someone in particular in mind or have had neighborhood people telling them things.

 

[Dee10]

BBM

It was just the way that it was said that made me wonder whether the two (Somer's case and human trafficking) were connected:

“(Diena) contacted me after she had heard about the work my wife and I do raising the awareness of human trafficking,” said Freed. “She asked us if we could help out and it was an easy decision.”

Thanks for finding that Noway! There is no documented quote from the sheriff only from a press it seems. But now this is a direct quote from DT (above) that she contacted the lawyer. ***SIGH***

 

[dar107]

Reading the article, it sounds like the Sheriff maybe recommended Freed, maybe because this lawyer is an advocate of victims, human trafficking in his case and possibly other good work of this nature.

Then DT contacted him, after being referred to him. Someone had to of recommended him to her. sounds like it was the Sheriff. Thats how i understood it when I read it.

 

[sadnpod]

I started looking into the human trafficking theory a while back because of a rumor I heard from a man who worked roofing a house in OP. He stated to me that he had heard somers death was because of drug debts. I really couldn't wrap my mind around this idea. Makes no sense to me that a drug dealer would want to murder a child to pay a drug debt... I was like, HUH? and that would get them money? no. Bring LE down on them, yes. So I just put it down as more rumors.

Black Friday I spent the day at my local mall in shackels and handed out flyers to promote awareness of human trafficing in the United States. I also began to research this horror.

Drug dealers do use children as collateral for giving drugs to be resold to a dealer. The deal is that you get x amount of drugs to sell/use and you pay me on tuesday. If tuesday comes and you dont have money your child can be sold and your debt will be paid. The majority of this debt is paid and the child is never really used, but occasionally there are crack heads and other druggies that do sell a child or repay a drug debt this way. These are usually children that no one cares about and are not even reported missing by the druggie parent. Others are reported.

Human traffic predators also randomly prey on vulnerable children and young adults, usually female. They scope out children on the way home from school near parks and other children friendly areas and decide if a child is allowed to roam. They usually do this directly after school, when many latch key kids have 2-3 hours without supervision. Ive read so much that I dont really have a link, atm anyway. The time it takes that the public is alerted to a missing child is a key factor of whether they are sold or killed. If LE is notified quickly, the person is murdered and disposed of. Trash seems to be one method of disposal, as does depositing bodies in remote areas and water, if not the sale is made and the person is usually far away from the abduction site when the missing person report is made.
So, IMO, this could POSSIBLY be what happened to Somer and alot of other missing persons who end up dead or never found.

I dont think DT did this. I dont think a sexual predator did this. I dont think anyone who loved her did this.

IT is a theory. A possibility. What are your thoughts on what happened to somer?

DT's attorney also represents Shaniya's father. A child who was SOLD. Is this so far fetched?

 

[sadnpod]

Another point I would like to make concerning Mr Freed is that he seems to have political asperations and seems like a very good man with a very nice family and his wife is extremely involved in raising awareness to this crime.

Based on this, I dont think he would represent DT, especially pro bono, if he thought there was a chance she did this.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Ok, I give up. I've been digging for a quote from Sheriff Beseler that I don't know exists.

I'd like to say...my opinion is Sheriff Beseler referred Freed to DT. I don't see an attorney lieing in a public interview about what a Sheriff said. IMO an attorney would know better than do that.
I think the reason we can't find a link is because maybe the sheriff never said it publicly.
Ccane provided info earlier that said LE is not supposed to give legal advice to anyone outside of LE. So, I'm thinking the Sheriff asked Freed to help DT with whatever he could out of the goodness of his heart. Because he cared about the victim's family and wanted what was best for them. IMO the sheriff was pretty protective of DT at the time, and still is IMO.

As far as the trafficking thing, I just don't see it. IMO there was no drug debt. I feel LE would have been all over that.

Again, JMO.

Goodnight y'all.

 

[sadnpod]

Ok, I give up. I've been digging for a quote from Sheriff Beseler that I don't know exists.

I'd like to say...my opinion is Sheriff Beseler referred Freed to DT. I don't see an attorney lieing in a public interview about what a Sheriff said. IMO an attorney would know better than do that.
I think the reason we can't find a link is because maybe the sheriff never said it publicly.
Ccane provided info earlier that said LE is not supposed to give legal advice to anyone outside of LE. So, I'm thinking the Sheriff asked Freed to help DT with whatever he could out of the goodness of his heart. Because he cared about the victim's family and wanted what was best for them. IMO the sheriff was pretty protective of DT at the time, and still is IMO.

As far as the trafficking thing, I just don't see it. IMO there was no drug debt. I feel LE would have been all over that.

Again, JMO.

Goodnight y'all.

I think your description of the sheriff is unprofessional and I disagree. He is doing his job, which is to serve and protect the public.

I dont see how there is any way for us to know "what LE has been all over".

They could have been all over that.. they could have spent 3 weeks with Dt being all over that.