FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #38

[eyes4crime]

I hope this works. Do not know what I am doing!! Want you to be able to enlarge each picture and read note with each. I have them in order.

Would really like to post several large pictures at a time so they are good size and clear.

http://s957.photobucket.com/albums/ae52/GRANNYL/?action=organize

Thank you GrannyL for all the time you have put into making such incredible pictures.

They are so clear - you can tell I live in Illinois, it's been along time since I've seen 'green'. :blowkiss:

 

[GRANNYL]

Quoting myself to move this up.

http://s957.photobucket.com/albums/ae52/GRANNYL/?action=organize

http://s957.photobucket.com/albums/ae52/GRANNYL/?albumview=slideshow

Much better pictures thanks to Noway!

I want to add that in October everything would have been way overgrown not like it is now in the pictures.

 

[GRANNYL]

I have to comment on the sign on JH garage door. It was so good to see someone had put that large sign there. I doubt that JH family would dare take it down. Can you imagine the stir that would cause. It was beautiful to see that sign!! Gives you goosebumps!

 

[human]

Fabulous pics Granny L. doesn't look too possible for me over by the JH house. A lot of it doesn't look possible. Super mucky bottom, so it's not appealing to walk in, I wouldn't think.

Do you have plants that are prickery there? Burrs that stick to you when you walk through? Plants that scratch? I'm just wondering how appealing it would be to even try to walk by some of those plants.

Maybe by the OPAA? That looks less yucky, to me.

 

[lawlady84]

Just looked at GRANNYL's photos (great job!!).

When I was little behind my grandma's house we used to have those ditch/drain things, and my friends and I thought they were streams and would always run around up and down, regardless of the plants. We lived in a very, very "suburban" town so this was as close to "wilderness" as it got. (Actually it was pretty much the only non-manicured lawn-green stuff around). It made us more adventurous than if we had actual woods to go in.

...t'was a little embarrassing to realize I spent my childhood summers playing in a drain. Sigh

 

[GRANNYL]

Fabulous pics Granny L. doesn't look too possible for me over by the JH house. A lot of it doesn't look possible. Super mucky bottom, so it's not appealing to walk in, I wouldn't think.

Do you have plants that are prickery there? Burrs that stick to you when you walk through? Plants that scratch? I'm just wondering how appealing it would be to even try to walk by some of those plants.

Maybe by the OPAA? That looks less yucky, to me.

Oh yes we have the thorns, burrs, stickes, etc. I can tell you I don't go into the woods or overgrown areas unless I'm on a search. Then you deal with the cuts and scrapes you get even with long pants and sleeves you get cutup and scratched. Not to mention watching out for the rattlesnakes and water moccasins.

Yes the OPAA ditches are cleaner because they seem to do the work because of children around.

I really don't think she went into the drainage ditches. I could be wrong but they were so overgrown at that time. I was told she sometimes went into the area next to her house thats kind of swampy but the underbrush was cleared out. Cam and I were told the neighbor kids like to play in there. Thats were the man with the hat and stick was interviewed. We walked by him just before he was interviewed.

 

[nursebeeme]

NSC I hope you are feeling better!!!!!

 

[tarabull]

Oh yes we have the thorns, burrs, stickes, etc. I can tell you I don't go into the woods or overgrown areas unless I'm on a search. Then you deal with the cuts and scrapes you get even with long pants and sleeves you get cutup and scratched. Not to mention watching out for the rattlesnakes and water moccasins.

Yes the OPAA ditches are cleaner because they seem to do the work because of children around.

I really don't think she went into the drainage ditches. I could be wrong but they were so overgrown at that time. I was told she sometimes went into the area next to her house thats kind of swampy but the underbrush was cleared out. Cam and I were told the neighbor kids like to play in there. Thats were the man with the hat and stick was interviewed. We walked by him just before he was interviewed.

I AGREE....there are tarabull things in those ditches.

I CAN'T SEE SOMER willingly going in them.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Great job Granny!!!!! Those pics make it so much clearer in my head.

I LOVE the justice for Somer sign on JH's garage. Good thinking by whomever put it there.

 

[Cheewawa007]

Did you guys hear what that JAG did to a young girl? He invited her into his home to watch a Patch Adams movie; once inside he tried to pull her panties down - she fought him and he punched her in the face several times and tried to strangle her. She got away & told her Mom. He was given 6 years in prison for it. ANYWAY, this is what I imagine happened with Somer & JT - he befriended her, got her in the house, tried to pose her for a video/picture, she freaked and.........well you know the rest.

ETA: JAG is the ________ in custody for the murder of Chelsea King.

 

[human]

Oh yes we have the thorns, burrs, stickes, etc. I can tell you I don't go into the woods or overgrown areas unless I'm on a search. Then you deal with the cuts and scrapes you get even with long pants and sleeves you get cutup and scratched. Not to mention watching out for the rattlesnakes and water moccasins.

Yes the OPAA ditches are cleaner because they seem to do the work because of children around.

I really don't think she went into the drainage ditches. I could be wrong but they were so overgrown at that time. I was told she sometimes went into the area next to her house thats kind of swampy but the underbrush was cleared out. Cam and I were told the neighbor kids like to play in there. Thats were the man with the hat and stick was interviewed. We walked by him just before he was interviewed.

When I was a kid, we would play in the crick, but it had rocks to step on so you wouldn't have to step into the water. We also had a river and lake to swim in, but the crick was not for going into the water for us. I don't know why.

We , too, had our swampy area to play in (no snakes where I live), but the swamp was more out in the open. NOt a creepy swamp.

I am superimposing myself on her here, but I just can't see her going into the ditch by the JH house.

All I can see is that he was maybe in the side yard and she went over to talk to him, just like she did with the construction workers. Still, no scent in the grass.

 

[human]

Did you guys hear what that JAG did to a young girl? He invited her into his home to watch a Patch Adams movie; once inside he tried to pull her panties down - she fought him and he punched her in the face several times and tried to strangle her. She got away & told her Mom. He was given 6 years in prison for it. ANYWAY, this is what I imagine happened with Somer & JT - he befriended her, got her in the house, tried to pose her for a video/picture, she freaked and.........well you know the rest.

ETA: JAG is the ________ in custody for the murder of Chelsea King.

 

[hoppyfrog]

human--

I'm so sorry! I did not in any way mean to delete your post. Something weird happened. Please post again.

Hoppy

 

[Noway]

Let me just say that I don't think LE was completely upfront with the public on Somer's scent and where it lead.

I think it's true that Kahlua lost her scent where he did. But I don't think the story ends there.

JMO ... no fact to back it up.

ETA
I just don't think that the best search dogs in FL (as described by the Sheriff) are all going to have an off day on the same day ... within about 7 hours of Somer being missing. He talked about them on the news that night ...

 

[human]

Let me just say that I don't think LE was completely upfront with the public on Somer's scent and where it lead.

I think it's true that Kahlua lost her scent where he did. But I don't think the story ends there.

JMO ... no fact to back it up.

There is that video of LE looking down by the railroad tracks. Sorry, no memory of where it might be.

So do you think that she might have been down there? How would she get there?

 

[human]

Let me just say that I don't think LE was completely upfront with the public on Somer's scent and where it lead.

I think it's true that Kahlua lost her scent where he did. But I don't think the story ends there.

JMO ... no fact to back it up.

ETA
I just don't think that the best search dogs in FL (as described by the Sheriff) are all going to have an off day on the same day ... within about 7 hours of Somer being missing. He talked about them on the news that night ...

In the beginning they LE might have thought with her history that she had run off to parts unknown, So why wouldn't they tell the public where they tracked her to?

At least people could concentrate on search areas. Since they had no clue what happened to her in the beginning, I don't see what being tight lipped would get them.

I hope that JH is their guy or there still is a child killer out there . Of course, there are lots of them out there. I just mean the one that did Somer.

 

[Noway]

No, I just don't think that all the dogs lost her scent. I do think she was taken from her normal route home.

 

[Noway]

IIRC the story about the dog was after they found Somer's body.

And I think the Sheriff knew that it wasn't typical of Somer to run off and stay away for so long. He said (paraphrased) in one of his early interviews (she had a slight history of running off but there was no reason to think that is what happened in this case).

 

[dar107]

Thank you so very much! I one hundred percent agree with you!!!

I rest my case!!!!

I am not feeling well today -- chest pains - going to the dr now. I will write more later.

Well I think we can all agree that sadly the internet is a treasure trove for child predators, of course. I am not sure what you mean by "I rest my case", though? Did you see inappropriate pictures of Somer on the internet????

 

[dar107]

IIRC the story about the dog was after they found Somer's body.

And I think the Sheriff knew that it wasn't typical of Somer to run off and stay away for so long. He said (paraphrased) in one of his early interviews (she had a slight history of running off but there was no reason to think that is what happened in this case).

Yes , I think it has been blown out of proportion a lot. There is a big difference between running off or not going straight home like you were told by mom to do, then "running away" and taking off for hours. Sometimes when I hear this its like Somer was taking off for hours on a daily basis, which I don't believe to be the case. I have 2 girls and one of them used to always "forget" to come tell me when she was leaving the park in front of our house to go to her friends, or would diddle daddle on her way home from school. Stuff like that.