FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #5

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  • #521
FWIW,, Ripley, the woman gives me the same vibes, but I'm reluctant to attribute her behavior to guilt in Somer's death. As for the lack of tears, sometimes the knowledge that you are being watched and expected to cry will cause a person to do just the opposite. I've experienced that myself after the death of loved ones. It's a self-conscious response. I also agree with Chicana's post about antidepressants. They suppress empathic responses, thus the dry cry. IMO, it's quite possible that medication is responsible for much of the seemingly unusual or detached attitude we've observed, right down to the inappropriate "smirk".

I sure hope you are right. I'm Bi-Polar and now taking the correct med for my body. Previously, I was on a different med, and I told my Dr., and anyone else who would listen, that this med made me worse! I actually ranted aloud, this med makes me such a zombie, that even if one of my own children died, I wouldn't be able to cry!!! and that's just plain WRONG. Problem solved now.

So, fill me in or lead to a thread or posts that reveals Somer's Mom is on meds. I'm guessing this has been sleuthed out as it is being talked about so much. Or is this pure speculation? Thanks.

PS-are you admitting you've detected a slight smirk on her face too???? Not that I need another to agree with me, but, it's always nice.....
 
  • #522
Mom is so not involved in her daughter's death. She is - as I would be - most likely taking some medication to get through this.

She. is. devastated. And that is very clear to me.

Chris V.? I'm don't know why, but I'm just not feeling that he is the perp.

I want to hear more about Clayton G. He gave incorrect info for his employment and address to LE on the police report, he absconded and now he is in Texas. There may be a valid explanation for all of this but I'm just not feelling good about him.

I hope you are right.
Question-where are you all getting all these details from? Is there another thread that talks about this case and it's players etc from day one, or a news stations reports? Please lead me to where to go to learn all known about this case so far. TIA!
 
  • #523
Have we found the offender who has a white van who lives on Bay Circle, which is RIGHT BEHIND (.01 mile) the 1080 Gano address? I know we don't know they're specifically looking for one, but I heard that the other RSO was driving one and a white van was mentioned on the news yesterday. If we've seen this and I'm having a brain fart just kick me.

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=66005

This guy could easily reach the Gano home in probably less than a minute from his via walking through his neighbor's house.

It's on the map I posted. I'll post again. SO in red, Gano in black.
 

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  • #524
I hope you are right.
Question-where are you all getting all these details from? Is there another thread that talks about this case and it's players etc from day one, or a news stations reports? Please lead me to where to go to learn all known about this case so far. TIA!

Which details?

Everything I know is either from these 5 threads or researching online.
 
  • #525
When I am really really angry, I react very similarly as Deina is reacting. I am considered the "strong one" in my family, which was very "dysfunctional" when I was young. As the oldest child, many times I had to step up to the plate and be the adult in situations. This offered me no chance to whine and cry during frequent crisis' that arose in my surroundings.

As a result, when there is a crisis, I tend to be very outspoken and can express myself easily. When I offer myself that moment to reflect on my emotions, I can crack, but quickly my "strength" will grab me again. How I feel is VERY similar to what Deina is showing - so much so that I can "feel her pain".

A person who reacts with my personality style falls apart...oh yes we do. But we do it in the quiet stillness of our self-proclaimed hiding places. We do not fall apart in public. And we don't need meds to be like this either.

Hope this helps with understanding.
 
  • #526
I think making a sign using the the color purple and having it posted in the windows of homes would work. I think if the signs were only made available through the schools and only after passing a background check will it be a more secure way to keep SO's out. The kids would be much safer. Perhaps a sign that said something like A Somer Thompson Safety Site.

Just an idea...

Maz

:cow:

Good night all.

This is what they do in the area I grew up in. Instead, the picture is of a Mcgruff Crime Dog in the window. I believe the family is checked out and is most likely involved in the pto or pta or something like that, that is how it was when we were kids, maybe that changed.

However, since recently moving back to the area I have only seen one McGruff crime dog in a window and there have actually been SEVERAL attempted kidnappings in the last month in the surrounding towns over!!! And what REALLY gets me is that I shared this info with my sons school mates mothers - most of them said "Thanks, but you can't live in fear" -- Okay, so have fun with that then -- the kids play up and down the street unsupervised. All I can say is "not my kids" and if I did I sure wouldn't have the recent activity in this area!!!! :banghead: If I was still in my old town the guns would be drawn, ready and waiting!! :furious:
 
  • #527
Gee, I guess the research part.....

Has anyone independently verified that Somer was actually at school on Monday?

We have Mom's story that Somer felt sick Monday morning but Mom sent her to school anyways with instructions to call if she felt worse. Then, isn't the story about after school a bit convoluted? Didn't brother and sister wait around awhile, then start walking home without Somer, then Somer caught up with them , only to then run ahead....and disappear????

Has LE or news reporters CONFIRMED that Somer really attended school that day???????

And WHY did Mom feel compelled to tell the entire world that she can't remember if she told Somer "I love You" Monday morning?????????

Something is eerriely wrong with this picture.
 
  • #528
This is what they do in the area I grew up in. Instead, the picture is of a Mcgruff Crime Dog in the window. I believe the family is checked out and is most likely involved in the pto or pta or something like that, that is how it was when we were kids, maybe that changed.

However, since recently moving back to the area I have only seen one McGruff crime dog in a window and there have actually been SEVERAL attempted kidnappings in the last month in the surrounding towns over!!! And what REALLY gets me is that I shared this info with my sons school mates mothers - most of them said "Thanks, but you can't live in fear" -- Okay, so have fun with that then -- the kids play up and down the street unsupervised. All I can say is "not my kids" and if I did I sure wouldn't have the recent activity in this area!!!! :banghead: If I was still in my old town the guns would be drawn, ready and waiting!! :furious:

When our town got tired of the meth addicts here, we started a Meth Awareness campaign. The city sent information on how to spot a meth home with the utility bills. We distributed FREE DVDs about meth awareness that another Oregon high school created when one of their students died from meth. It hasn't stopped meth usage in our town, but now people know what it is and what to look for and report their suspicions to LE.

The same could be done for those "you can't live in fear" moms. Have a DVD distributed through local stores with Marc Klaas and Deina and other parents who have lost their children by stranger abduction - telling their stories of pain. How we did our DVDs was the city bought them and gave them to the stores. The citizens were asked to view them and return them for the next person. This was a few years back and we are still circulating the original DVDs.
 
  • #529
And WHY did LE jump all over the landfill from the neighborhood garbage?????
A lesson learnt from other missing kids? Or did they have an IMMEDIATE clue to lead them there. (Where she was ultimatly found)

I can't wait till Monday. Have a feeling there will be some new news about this case......
 
  • #530
Gee, I guess the research part.....

Has anyone independently verified that Somer was actually at school on Monday?

We have Mom's story that Somer felt sick Monday morning but Mom sent her to school anyways with instructions to call if she felt worse. Then, isn't the story about after school a bit convoluted? Didn't brother and sister wait around awhile, then start walking home without Somer, then Somer caught up with them , only to then run ahead....and disappear????

Has LE or news reporters CONFIRMED that Somer really attended school that day???????

And WHY did Mom feel compelled to tell the entire world that she can't remember if she told Somer "I love You" Monday morning?????????

Something is eerriely wrong with this picture.

Yes it has been verified. Not only did she go to school, she was seen by one crossing guard as she was walking home FROM school. (Read the first thread where this was all verified).

Deina is sharing her pain with the rest of the world. I think it is a good thing to let other parents KNOW the REALITY of what is happening to our kids! I applaud her for being transparent. AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP NOW!
 
  • #531
And WHY did LE jump all over the landfill from the neighborhood garbage?????
A lesson learnt from other missing kids? Or did they have an IMMEDIATE clue to lead them there. (Where she was ultimatly found)

I can't wait till Monday. Have a feeling there will be some new news about this case......

LE has repeatedly claimed that one of the officers suggested a landfill check. I don't know if they had a hunch or not? At this time, since they keep making a point of saying this, I think it was just preventive searching. I read a media report recently that they checked the landfill within two days of Haleigh Cummings going missing also. She wasn't located.
 
  • #532
Police: Progress being made toward tracking Somer's path
Authorities are sifting through trash to pinpoint where her body was first dumped.

ORANGE PARK - Authorities are getting closer to learning where Somer Renee Thompson's body was initially dumped as they continued Friday sifting through tons of trash found with her in a Southeast Georgia landfill.

Clay County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Mary Justino said a large trash truck that took the garbage from the Rosemary Hill landfill in Green Cove Springs to the Chesser Island Road Landfill in Folkston has been identified. By locating items with addresses or other information in the trash from that truck, investigators are hoping to find the smaller truck that drove the trash from Orange Park to Green Cove Springs. They could then likely trace the smaller truck's route, Justino said.

http://jacksonville.com/news/georgi...ogress_being_made_toward_tracking_somers_path
 
  • #533
America needs to wake up- okay. Now what?? What are we suspossed to do about it? I heard someone say the other day re: this case- that we've reached the point where it's NOT ACCEPTABLE to allow young girls to walk around alone. OK.

Little Samantha(?) from Calif. was abducted while playing in her front yard with a playmate!

YEARS ago, Jacob Wetterling was abducted while riding his bike with his brother and a friend.....


So , the buddy system doesn't seem to work in all cases.....

America cannot resort to keep kids locked up in the house.

And where are convicted child molesters suppossed to live? Should we build a commune for them out in the dessert somewhere??????
 
  • #534
Gee, I guess the research part.....

Has anyone independently verified that Somer was actually at school on Monday?

We have Mom's story that Somer felt sick Monday morning but Mom sent her to school anyways with instructions to call if she felt worse. Then, isn't the story about after school a bit convoluted? Didn't brother and sister wait around awhile, then start walking home without Somer, then Somer caught up with them , only to then run ahead....and disappear????

Has LE or news reporters CONFIRMED that Somer really attended school that day???????

And WHY did Mom feel compelled to tell the entire world that she can't remember if she told Somer "I love You" Monday morning?????????

Something is eerriely wrong with this picture.
goodness gracious. I hope I am never in a position to be judged so harshly. I am sure LE is on top of everything and in my opinion, the mom has NOTHING to do with this.
 
  • #535
Somer's father is disabled. Although the article below does not state this, I think I recall he is in a wheelchair. This article references his disability when thrown from a truck in Iraq. "Sammy" currently lives with his sister. Maybe caring for three young chilren was too much for him.

http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/thompson-29065-girl-members.html

And his sister reports that they have no money He recently had an accident and cannot walk. Someone donated a van so that he can get to Florida this weekend. He has been estranged from his wife. They will be getting a divorce, the sister said.
 
  • #536
Any one familiar with Block Parents?

Just thinking to myself why re-invent the wheel???

Maybe a current safety system just needs some expanding...

http://www.blockparent.ca/
 
  • #537
Sorry chicana- your post seemed like a good one to quote. No reflection on you.


Come on now people. Don't make me pull teeth or hairs....HOW many cases have went down where YOU ALL were ALL OVER the parents for not "reacting correctly". Casey A cried without tears, you all tore her a new b***. Remember?

What is the difference here??? My GOD!!!!!!!!!!!! Her baby girl has only been dead for 5 friggin days now? Shouldn't her attention be on her surviving children? She acts like she as all the time the world to devote to press conference and appearances. When she does appear on TV , shouldn't her loud, squeaky sobs be accomanied by WET TEARS?????????????????? And WHAT'S UP with that slight constant smirk on her face???? I cannot be the only person here who notices it?

You all know, that IF, come Monday morning, you turn on the news and learn that the focus is now on her own home, 100's will suddenly come out of the woodwork and say, gee, I thought it strange that she cried and sobbed with DRY EYES!

I just happen to have the balls to say what some might be thinking ALOUD. As stated, I HOPE that I am wrong. But, I can't explain to myself why this woman unnerves me the way she does.
I agree. Since day 1 I have thought something wasn't quite right w/ the mom's demeanor. I hope I am wrong. Didn't want to say anything because it didn't seem like a popular opinion so I just left it alone. Again, hope I am wrong. I'll just watch it play out and say no more. On the record.
 
  • #538
Posted wrong link.

Time to nap.

http://www.claycountygov.com/Departments/Environmental/curbside_service.htm

Residential garbage must be placed for collection in standard 20-30 gallon cans and may weigh no more than 40 pounds each.

Does this mean the garbage cans are picked up manually and garbage thrown into the truck? I guess that is something a local would have to answer.

Where I'm going with this (have to run out for a bit):

I'm asking because Somer weighed 65 pounds or so. And someone would have had to LIFT that can. And might know by feel if a can was over the limit.

Yes. My SIL lives down the street from Somers family and I asked her about this. She said they have to put the cans out and a truck comes through and people actually dump the trash into the truck, unlike here (ok) where they truck does it all.

Sorry if this was already answered I was a few pages behind :)
 
  • #539
This is what they do in the area I grew up in. Instead, the picture is of a Mcgruff Crime Dog in the window. I believe the family is checked out and is most likely involved in the pto or pta or something like that, that is how it was when we were kids, maybe that changed.

However, since recently moving back to the area I have only seen one McGruff crime dog in a window and there have actually been SEVERAL attempted kidnappings in the last month in the surrounding towns over!!! And what REALLY gets me is that I shared this info with my sons school mates mothers - most of them said "Thanks, but you can't live in fear" -- Okay, so have fun with that then -- the kids play up and down the street unsupervised. All I can say is "not my kids" and if I did I sure wouldn't have the recent activity in this area!!!! :banghead: If I was still in my old town the guns would be drawn, ready and waiting!! :furious:

Years ago our city had "safe houses" where a child could run to if a problem arose. The signs given out by the city are no more, and the program has been discontinued. First, the "safe houses" were self-proclaimed. Second, although the home owners may have been honorable, who was visiting? Next, although the home may have been child safe, what else might have been going on? (drugs) Finally, many people worked during the day.

Although we've lived on our cul-de-sac of 9 houses for 22 years, I can honestly say I hardly know my neighbors, and most families have lived here over 15 years! Our contact is mostly limited to waving hello. I have no idea what goes on behind closed doors.
 
  • #540
If you google Somer's address and go to streetview there are empty garbage pails strewn along the streets.

Ironically it was a garbage day when the goggle streetview unit did Orange Park neighbourhood.
 
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