FL - Tracy Ocasio, 27, Orlando/Ocoee, 27 May 2009 - #1

[TexasLil]

bond you are fast... lightning fingers, they call him lol... put addy on there per your request. While this location may not seem pertinent, we have yet to determine whether there may have been some pattern of stalking or any other connection (?) They had officially only "known" eachother one week and we know of link to Taproom but it helps to visualize.

I'm interested still in learning more re toll roads, and curious to see which routes entailed traveling these. Presumably LE is doing the same
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Kiki,

I'm thinking Tracy had her own place as well. May be way off there but perhaps assumed this after reading the story about how she would talk to her father on the phone almost daily that she was living separate from her parents home.

Lil

 

[BondJamesBond]

Kiki,

I'm thinking Tracy had her own place as well. May be way off there but perhaps assumed this after reading the story about how she would talk to her father on the phone almost daily that she was living separate from her parents home.

Lil

...got plenty of markers Just keep those addy's comin'

On the top of my wish list are addy's related to business that Toole & Hataway were involved in regarding construction debris.

Addy's for other players too.
Watters?
Sharpe?
...etc.

 

[jnTexas]

Maybe we are on the wrong track all together.

we know her car a two door had both seats forward. Meaning someone had to open the passenger door as most seat latches are between the door and seat. I think their is at least two perps. One driving and one in the passenger seat. I'm going on the possibilty of three perps as no one seen or heard someone walking. Someone had to have a dog. If on one heard or seen anything I'm willing to bet someone was driving a get away car. Also wasn't there three people walking when George went missing?
Anyhow, Maybe we should be looking at Toole. He lives close. they could be in this together. She could be on his property or maybe he has family with land close by. The Dad giving consent to search the septic system leads me to believe she has never been on that property.
There has got to be something we are missing.

 

[chesterp]

Not even the Citgo station???

Not at the Citgo..... I purposely asked and the response was basically this section of town is so poor...no one could afford it.

 

[jnTexas]

http://www.wesh.com/news/19854701/detail.html

Hataway Arraigned On Unrelated Charges

ORLANDO, Fla. -- While there's still no sign of a woman who disappeared from a bar in MetroWest on May 27, a person of interest in the Tracy Ocasio was arraigned on unrelated criminal mischief charges Thursday.

 

[TexasLil]

...got plenty of markers Just keep those addy's comin'

On the top of my wish list are addy's related to business that Toole & Hataway were involved in regarding construction debris.

Addy's for other players too.
Watters?
Sharpe?
...etc.

I think Hickox is also interesting since he considers JH a brother and attested that JH had no interest in the "dark side" even after LE found evidence of this darkness after searching JH's house. We'll keep trying. :banghead:

 

[jnTexas]

I'm wondering what Le was looking for in the septic tank? We have septic tanks. the only way to get a body in a septic tank would be to unearth the dirt and grass over the apporx 4 ft round 6in thick concrete lid. then remove the lid. Put the lid back and recover it. If LE had to remove trees I don't think they were looking for her body.
Maybe drugs flushed in baggies or jewerly, cellphone, and or keys? not even sure if you could get a gun or knife down a septic without removing the lid as it would get stuck in the pipes.
This is really interesting....

man do I feel sorry for the poor guy having to search the contents they sucked out.

 

[Harmony 2]

Bar that JH went to before the alleged attack in Fern Park... JH was a cook there for about 6 months.

Holly & Dolly's
Address: 500 Semoran Blvd
City, State: Casselberry, FL
Zip/P. Code: 32707

Hi Lil!

Do you have a timeframe (and a link) for this employment? I have created a timeline for James Hataway and would like to plug in that info. Thanks in advance!!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

While there could be more than one person involved, if they had a "getaway" car...I cannot believe they would leave her car within walking distance of JVH's house. Makes no sense. They would have dumped her car somewhere unrelated to any of them.

Why would anyone think there was a dog present? Were there signs of dog hair in the car? If a dog was barking, it would be more likely someone was walking and the dog was a neighborhood animal.

Bond, I don't see us being able to figure out the construction dump sites without LE releasing possible locations. They have already stated he cleared areas and dumped them illegally which they said posed a huge problem for them in knowing where to search. I guess trying to figure out the illegal dump sites across the area will be up to the locals since those aren't listed on any maps.

 

[TexasLil]

Hi Lil!

Do you have a timeframe (and a link) for this employment? I have created a timeline for James Hataway and would like to plug in that info. Thanks in advance!!

Unfortunately there is nothing specific on the time frame except this article indicates it might be around the same time as the attack in Fern Park which was August, 07.

"He wasn't a good guy, very short tempered," said friend "Tony."

Tony didn't want his face on camera, but he said he used to hang out with Hataway at Holly and Dolly's bar in Casselberry. Hataway was a cook there for six months. Tony said he was with Hataway before another alleged attack on a woman.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31213159/

 

[Jaylergirl]

I'm wondering what Le was looking for in the septic tank? We have septic tanks. the only way to get a body in a septic tank would be to unearth the dirt and grass over the apporx 4 ft round 6in thick concrete lid. then remove the lid. Put the lid back and recover it. If LE had to remove trees I don't think they were looking for her body.
Maybe drugs flushed in baggies or jewerly, cellphone, and or keys? not even sure if you could get a gun or knife down a septic without removing the lid as it would get stuck in the pipes.
This is really interesting....

man do I feel sorry for the poor guy having to search the contents they sucked out.

LE was looking for ANY signs of TO in the septic tank, whether it be clothes, cell phone, purse or for that matter....her body! LE said that JVH had access to the septic tank that night & they had to cut down the trees just to get the trucks in to where the septic tank was located.

They were looking for ANYTHING related to her! I think it was smart of LE to check there, because you just never know what these stupid people would do to conceal what they have done.

 

[Harmony 2]

Unfortunately there is nothing specific on the time frame except this article indicates it might be around the same time as the attack in Fern Park which was August, 07.

"He wasn't a good guy, very short tempered," said friend "Tony."

Tony didn't want his face on camera, but he said he used to hang out with Hataway at Holly and Dolly's bar in Casselberry. Hataway was a cook there for six months. Tony said he was with Hataway before another alleged attack on a woman.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31213159/

Thank you for taking the time to locate that information for me. I will add it to my work in progress and post it in the future.

 

[jnTexas]

While there could be more than one person involved, if they had a "getaway" car...I cannot believe they would leave her car within walking distance of JVH's house. Makes no sense. They would have dumped her car somewhere unrelated to any of them.

Why would anyone think there was a dog present? Were there signs of dog hair in the car? If a dog was barking, it would be more likely someone was walking and the dog was a neighborhood animal.

Bond, I don't see us being able to figure out the construction dump sites without LE releasing possible locations. They have already stated he cleared areas and dumped them illegally which they said posed a huge problem for them in knowing where to search. I guess trying to figure out the illegal dump sites across the area will be up to the locals since those aren't listed on any maps.

true on leaving the car close to home. Unless he figured that everyone at the bar knew he rode home with her so the car being close to his home wouldn't matter.

As far as a dog. What I was referring to was people in the neighorhood. if this guy left the car there and walked back the neighborhood dogs would be going crazy if he walked past their homes. If there is someone walking down our road at night my dog goes nuts and it wakes my husband.

I just keep thinking someone elderly (like JH or Toole old family member) with a lot of land like a farm or ranch that maybe doesn't do much with it anymore. Maybe a old barn type stucture for dumping.

does anyone know which way the car was facing on the road? Was it facing going towards JH house or away? LE said there was no scent of her near the car. maybe she was transported alive away from the car on the way to JH house?
There's so much we don't know.

 

[BondJamesBond]

Bond, I don't see us being able to figure out the construction dump sites without LE releasing possible locations. They have already stated he cleared areas and dumped them illegally which they said posed a huge problem for them in knowing where to search. I guess trying to figure out the illegal dump sites across the area will be up to the locals since those aren't listed on any maps.

*snipped*

Thanks, Search.

Actually, @ the present I'm not as interested in the 'dump sites' as I am any locations where they might store their equipment...have a workshop...etc.

 

[jnTexas]

*snipped*

Thanks, Search.

Actually, @ the present I'm not as interested in the 'dump sites' as I am any locations where they might store their equipment...have a workshop...etc.

Bond my husband does clean outs on some foreclosures as a side job. We have a 16' trailer, 20' trailer, 3/4 ton truck, and a tractor. As some of these homes and/or yards are full of trash debris. We keep all of our equipment at our home. sometimes we hire people we know to help if it's a big job. Alot of contractors will hire out the debris removal. There's a good chance they did not work for a certain company, and may have used their own equipment. The local dump here charges $75 for a truck and trailer load of debris. This could be why he is known to dump ilegally. Plus most dumps will not take tires, refrigerators, anything with oil or gas in it.

 

[BondJamesBond]

Perhaps some information will become available locally. Using Street-level view I highlighted what I'd speculate to be the 2 most-likely locations where the car may have been abandoned. Am also interested in things like which direction it was pointed...pulled parallel to the road or perpendicular...etc. One spot sandy enough one might have found footprints...the other more grassy.:

 

[TexasLil]

*snipped*

Thanks, Search.

Actually, @ the present I'm not as interested in the 'dump sites' as I am any locations where they might store their equipment...have a workshop...etc.

Bond, the best I've found is what LE released early on.

Ocoee police say they are getting dozens of leads and looking for more possible victims. They do know Hataway worked clearing shore lines and dumping debris illegally.


http://www.wftv.com/news/19648776/detail.html

The mother later told the media she thought he worked in construction at one time but I'm betting more on a company that cleans up lakes and shore lines. On to searching.

 

[mombomb]

There was an eviction filed for JVH's baby momma in Casselberry - 530 Reflections Circle (Reflections Apartments) dated 12/10/07. This may have been where he was living. I believe this is very close to Holly & Dolly's on Hwy 436 in Casselberry. I think this time frame lines up with the other woman who came forward accusing JVH of attacking her after giving her a ride home. Don't know if this helps any.

 

[TexasLil]

Not even the Citgo station???

I agree Citgo would be most likely to have video. However, this Crawford Tire at 110 Taylor Street also seems a good candidate for video. They have about 7 service bays and a lot of vehicles sitting around at any given time. Perhaps not though.

Chester,

Do you know if this business was checked out?

Thanks,
Lil

 

[Harmony 2]

There was an eviction filed for JVH's baby momma in Casselberry - 530 Reflections Circle (Reflections Apartments) dated 12/10/07. This may have been where he was living. I believe this is very close to Holly & Dolly's on Hwy 436 in Casselberry. I think this time frame lines up with the other woman who came forward accusing JVH of attacking her after giving her a ride home. Don't know if this helps any.

*bolded by me*

Was the attack in 2007 or 2008? :waitasec:

According to this quote it occurred last year.... So 2008, right?

The person of interest in the case of a missing Ocoee woman faces charges in an attack on a woman last year, a Seminole County sheriff's spokeswoman said Monday.

A judge has issued an arrest warrant for James Virgil Hataway, 27, in an Aug. 7 attack alleged by Rachel M. Clarke, 22, spokeswoman Kim Cannaday said. Clarke told deputy sheriffs the Ocoee man twisted her neck after she drove him to his home, which then was in Fern Park.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...ocasio-suspect-warrant-060809,0,6915913.story