Flds - Follow The Money

  • #101
I have a question, the assesor said that the YFZ did not ask for an exemption. If a church asks for an exemption, do they have to provide any documentation that they are a church?

Does anyone really think they are a poor little sect?
I mean, being investigated for offshore accounts, having investments in tin mines in Bolivia, and all sorts of other venues, such as banks, restaurants etc.. the amounts they've been generating through public funds or contracts... that's a LOT of money they've been salting away...er..in Warren Jeffs case, frittering it away.
 
  • #102
I have a question, the assesor said that the YFZ did not ask for an exemption. If a church asks for an exemption, do they have to provide any documentation that they are a church?

Does anyone really think they are a poor little sect?
I mean, being investigated for offshore accounts, having investments in tin mines in Bolivia, and all sorts of other venues, such as banks, restaurants etc.. the amounts they've been generating through public funds or contracts... that's a LOT of money they've been salting away...er..in Warren Jeffs case, frittering it away.

Just WHO could believe this group are poor?



Mollymalone: i must say your research on this thread is staggering! thank you so very much. my jaw continues to drop at all revealed on this money trail. :eek:
 
  • #103
Just WHO could believe this group are poor?



Mollymalone: i must say your research on this thread is staggering! thank you so very much. my jaw continues to drop at all revealed on this money trail. :eek:
Thank you. I started researching this because I was fascinated at how much money there really seemed to be flowing around the leaders while reports of other "lesser" members being barely able to exist were known.

I'm sure there are more articles on the net that I didn't find, but it's clear that this sect has a lot of money flowing into it's coffers.

Since they've decided not to register as a church or file for exemptions that churches are allowed it beggars the question of why? Would they have to release their financial worth to someone?
 
  • #104
The property that you say is in Crawford, Texas is actually in Crawford, Colorado.
 
  • #105
The property that you say is in Crawford, Texas is actually in Crawford, Colorado.
Oops! :blushing: Thanks, :blowkiss: I'll fix that! I had Texas on the brain... :)
 
  • #106
MOLLY SAYS: I'm placing the lawyers here because it is an expense incurred by the FLDS.
These lawyers have been retained by the FLDS to represent them and attorneys like these aren't cheap.


http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/10/teen-girls-from-yfz-ranch-near-eldorado-have/
Gerry Goldstein, the San Antonio attorney representing FLDS bishop Lyle Jeffs, a brother of former sect
leader Warren Jeffs Goldstein conceded, however, that the state has an interest in searching the
compound to investigate allegations of child abuse.

Dan Hurley, a Lubbock attorney representing compound leader Merrill Jessop, also declined to comment
on any of the affidavits that have been released detailing the alleged activities on his client's ranch,
saying he had yet to read them.

Attorney Richard Wright leaves the Tom Green County Courthouse after the first day of hearings
concerning the 400-plus children removed from the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado. Wright was the lead
defense attorney for Warren Jeffs.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/news/2008/04/sect-married-girls-at-puberty.php
Patrick Peranteau, lawyer for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
 
  • #107
MOLLY SAYS: I'm placing the attorneys here becuase that is an expense incurred by the FLDS and
attorneys like these are not cheap. Especially one who represents you time and again in numerous
court hearings or acts as your spokesman.


Rodney Parker has represented the FLDS in numerous cases and is currently the FLDS
spokesperson.


Rodney Parker, FLDS's registered agent for the FLDS corporations. He's a former Bush I Associate
Deputy Attorney General who was on the immediate staff of the Deputy Attorney General of the
US from 1988-989. Parker's now an attorney with the Utah law firm Snow, Christensen
and Martineau, which represents the state of Utah.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0604/S00117.htm
On the local level, the twin towns of Hildale-Colorado City, for instance, are organized as the United
Effort Plan (UEP). UEP is "unofficially" represented by attorney Rodney Parker.

Parker represented both the now-unseated Hildale polygamist Judge Walter Steed and
convicted Colorado City polygamist cop Rodney Holm.[/B] Parker is with the law firm of Snow,
Christensen and Martineau, which also represents the State of Utah.

Rodney Parker is also the registered agent of the FLDS Corporations and Twin City Academy, Inc.
in Hildale; all the above in good standing in the State of Utah.

CPS REMOVES CHILDREN
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3080462FLDS spokesman Rod Parker says the separation of
the mothers from their children was involuntary."Just because there's a logistical issue doesn't mean that
you can violate the constitutional rights of 500 parents and children," Parker said. "Well, that's a very
serious issue if this call turns out to be a hoax, and I think there's a lot of suggestion that that may
ultimately be what happened," Parker said.
 
  • #108
Rodney Parker cont'd.

B]UEP EVICTION CASE & APPEAL[/B]
http://www.childbrides.org/lenore.html
http://www.childbrides.org/lenore2.html
Salt Lake City attorney Rodney Parker, representing UEP, argued that permission to stay on the land
depends on whether or not the Holms are church members

AN APPEAL
http://www.childbrides.org/lenore_spec_judge_rules_couple_can_stay.html
During the case presented to the Arizona Superior Court in May 2003, UEP Attorney Rod Parker
dismissed the story from Lenore Holm's daughter as irrelevant to the case and said the reason for
the eviction was not based on religion.

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/5625/flds-prophet-thins-flock
"the faith’s prophet excommunicated at least a dozen men....
Rodney Parker, a Salt Lake City attorney who has represented FLDS members, said he had been
informed of Saturday’s purge...
 
  • #109
Rodney Parker cont'd.

http://rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy235.html
Concerned family members filed a missing person report Friday on the longtime bishop ....... Fred Jessop.
Jessop, 94, apparently hasn't been seen since December, but the missing person report was filed Friday
afternoon with the Washington County Sheriff's Office.

FLDS and UEP attorney Rodney Parker said the missing person report was a publicity stunt by those who
filed it.

Sex charge Case against Rodney Holm, former FLDS Police Officer
-two counts of unlawful sexual conduct with a 16- or 17-year-old and one count of bigamy
http://www.childbrides.org/rodney_spect_defense_rests.html
Defense attorney Rodney Parker said his expert witnesses would be needed to explain religious concepts
and deeper understanding of a "door" he said the prosecution left wide open -- the door of polygamy.
"Polygamy is not on trial. Mr. Holm is on trial," said Assistant Attorney General Kristine Knowlton.
If he was not allowed expert witnesses, Parker said he believed the case should be declared a mistrial


THERE ARE MANY MORE INSTANCES WHERE PARKER WAS SPOKESPERSON -GOOGLE
"FDLS RODNEY PARKER" FOR MORE.
IMO I'd say his work for the FLDS fattens his bank account.
 
  • #110
Molly...........thanks for all your in depth research! Outstanding job! :clap:

After reading this thread, it leaves me angry and sickened that the FLDS has amassed a fortune, "bleeding the beast", and all the time breaking laws, raping children, physically abusing children, treating women as slaves and breeding stock! :mad:
 
  • #111
In 2005 Judge Steed was removed from office.

COURT DOCUMENT:
http://www.utcourts.gov/opinions/supopin/Steed2022406.pdf

Steed is a member of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and it appears
that the Hildale City Council’s choice for his replacement will also be a member of the church,
albeit not a practicing polygamist.

The Utah Supreme Court wrote:

Judge Steed’s relationship with his three plural wives for more than twenty years clearly runs afoul of
[Utah’s bigamy statute]….Judges in this state are expected to abide by all of the laws applicable to
them. Civil disobedience carries consequences for a judge that may not be applicable to other citizens.
The dignity and respect accorded the judiciary is a necessary element of the rule of law. When the law
is violated or ignored by those charged by society with the fair and impartial enforcement of the law,
the stability of our society is placed at undue risk.

Steed has accepted the court’s decision, but he regrets that the court didn’t address the underlying
legal issues. In a statement, he said: “I had hoped that the court would see my case as an opportunity
to correct the injustices that are caused by the criminalization of my religious beliefs and lifestyle, and I
am disappointed that the court did not reach those issues in my case….I am hopeful that the court will
eventually consider the issue of polygamy as an aspect of personal privacy, marital rights and religious
freedom…I am proud of my efforts to bring the issue before the court and the people of Utah.”Steed’s
attorney, Rod Parker, says that the bigamy statute is never enforced and questions why his client has
been singled out.
 
  • #112
http://rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy448.html
Officials also knew local laws in Colorado City and adjacent Hildale, Utah, were enforced by polygamous
police officers and administered by a polygamous judge — and that police routinely referred alleged sex
crimes to church leaders. Like some in the local police force, other area public officials also came from
the polygamous community. In Hildale, Judge Walter K. Steed spent 25 years adjudicating cases on the
local justice court. He had two wives when he was appointed, and later added a third.


http://www.sweenytod.com/rno/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1365

A small-town judge who has three wives should not be removed from the bench because his private
behavior has not tarnished the office he holds, the judge's attorney told the Utah Supreme Court on
Wednesday. Steed's attorney argued at Wednesday's hearing that while drug abuse, for example, might
be grounds for removal, Steed's private behavior in his home should not be. ''The question is whether
polygamy rises to a different level of disrepute than something else,'' attorney Rodney Parker said.

But those seeking to remove Steed argue that he shouldn't break the laws he took an oath to uphold.
''Judges are expected to live to a different standard,'' said Colin Winchester, the commission's
executive director.

Steed has served for 25 years in the southern border town of Hildale, handing down rulings in drunken
driving and domestic violence cases.
 
  • #113
http://chris-cohen.blogspot.com/2005/11/mormon-utah-judge-married-to-3-sisters.html
A 14 month investigation of Judge Walter K. Steed of Hilldale, Utah has determined that Steed
violated the Utah law against bigamy by marrying three sisters. These marriages took place in
1965, 1975, and 1985. One sister per decade apparently. Judge Steed also has 32 kids, that's
quite a few Steeds.

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1109859540069
One issue is Steed's contention that the law allowing prosecutors to pursue people who consider
themselves plurally married but aren't legally married is unconstitutional.
Utah's attorney general
and the Washington County attorney previously declined to file criminal charges against Steed.

http://www.childbrides.org/cops_SLCW_judge_not.html
If a Judge can have more than one wife what's stopping you?
 
  • #114
http://www.getreligion.org/?p=3388
13. Mina April 13, 2008, at 11:47 am
Several FLDS police officers and a judge (Walter Steed, who signed commitment orders for husbands
who wanted their wives committed to mental institutions,
allegedly to punish them) were (finally)
forced out of thier jobs a couple of years ago. The mayors of Colorado City have all been FLDS members
with multiple wives. The city councilmembers have all been FLDS. These officials had gone unchallenged f
or decades, and during that time they certainly had the power to subvert the law to protect their way of
life.....For more detail, see this link: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/09/21/polyg.media/index.html
**LINK NO LONGER WORKS DUE TO NO LONGER IN ARCHIVE**
 
  • #115
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-polygamyenclave-13may1206,0,6534347,full.story
Women and girls, needed as wives, are rarely pushed out. Instead, those who disobey face being sent to
mental hospitals. Pam Black said her now deceased husband, a Colorado City police officer, would hold
the phone and threaten to dial 911 whenever she refused his commands. "He would say he was going to
have me handcuffed and taken to an insane asylum," said Black, a former FLDS member. "That's all
a man had to do, call 911."


Sworn affidavits of FLDS women have accused law enforcement here of illegally transporting them
to mental facilities without due process
. The affidavits were submitted as part of an Arizona state
inquiry into local police practices. In one instance described under oath, a woman fleeing her abusive
husband was picked up by the local sheriff's deputy, an FLDS member, and taken to a hospital in
Utah
. According to the affidavit, the deputy called the prophet, not his law enforcement superiors,
and was directed to a Provo, Utah, mental facility. Other women said they were taken by police
to the Guidance Center, a mental hospital in Flagstaff, Ariz.

Laurene Jessop ended up there after brawling with a "sister wife" who she said had tried to strangle her
daughter. Their husband summoned the police. Two Colorado City officers arrived, handcuffed Laurene
Jessop and took her in a police car to the Guidance Center,
she said. "They didn't give me a choice," she
said, recalling that the officers told her, " 'You're not keeping sweet -- you are being rebellious.' "It all
happened quickly. She did not grant permission to be admitted and "there was no court proceeding that
I know of,"
Laurene Jessop said. The clinic's discharge summary, obtained by The Times, said
Laurene Jessop suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome stemming from childhood sexual abuse. It said she
also suffered stress in her relations with sister wives, and proposed that she seek couple's counseling
with Warren Jeffs.
 
  • #116
Molly...........thanks for all your in depth research! Outstanding job! :clap:

After reading this thread, it leaves me angry and sickened that the FLDS has amassed a fortune, "bleeding the beast", and all the time breaking laws, raping children, physically abusing children, treating women as slaves and breeding stock! :mad:
Thank you Leila. My blood boils when it comes to the public officials, taking taxpayer money and not upholding the law equally but acting as the enforcers of the FLDS. I saw a comment that over the decades it's cost tax payers hundreds of thousands of dollars in fraudulent welfare and other benefits.

I say if the man and woman want that many kids then by golly they better be able to support them. I have no problem with benefits being paid to those who need a helping hand, not a hand out. But this is systematic abuse of the system. IMO
 
  • #117
So, now that it's clear that the FLDS had "church" members in positions of power within the Court, LE and the Wic office and other agencies within Colorado City and Hilldale, it's not hard to see how these women within the sect were able to apply for and receive benefits without having proper documentation such as social sec. no, birth certificates, driver's license or other id.

They can receive benefits, sent to the address designated by the church, and those benefits can continue arriving while the women can, and are, sent to Canada or other states. They don't even need to be there for any kind of renewal or updated information required by the state.

All they do is sign the paperwork, unless it's signed for them by other "trusted" women using their name, or signed by the men, and its submitted with false information or someone else's legit information. Presto.
Benefits on a stick.
 
  • #118
So, now that it's clear that the FLDS had "church" members in positions of power within the Court, LE and the Wic office and other agencies within Colorado City and Hilldale, it's not hard to see how these women within the sect were able to apply for and receive benefits without having proper documentation such as social sec. no, birth certificates, driver's license or other id.

They can receive benefits, sent to the address designated by the church, and those benefits can continue arriving while the women can, and are, sent to Canada or other states. They don't even need to be there for any kind of renewal or updated information required by the state.

All they do is sign the paperwork, unless it's signed for them by other "trusted" women using their name, or signed by the men, and its submitted with false information or someone else's legit information. Presto.
Benefits on a stick.

It's another country operating inside America. a country without borders as we know it. :eek:
 
  • #119
It's another country operating inside America. a country without borders as we know it. :eek:
I read an article that stated that sentiment exactly!!

They've collected hundreds of thousands in benefits over the years,
and millions in contracts, and then all of the investments etc..
I wonder just how much money has been socked away or has been
spent by them over the years that came from fraud. I bet the number would be astounding.
 
  • #120
So, now that it's clear that the FLDS had "church" members in positions of power within the Court, LE and the Wic office and other agencies within Colorado City and Hilldale, it's not hard to see how these women within the sect were able to apply for and receive benefits without having proper documentation such as social sec. no, birth certificates, driver's license or other id.

They can receive benefits, sent to the address designated by the church, and those benefits can continue arriving while the women can, and are, sent to Canada or other states. They don't even need to be there for any kind of renewal or updated information required by the state.

All they do is sign the paperwork, unless it's signed for them by other "trusted" women using their name, or signed by the men, and its submitted with false information or someone else's legit information. Presto.
Benefits on a stick.

How about Voter Registration? The FLDS have been controlling the school boards in Colorado City and Hildale, even though they have pulled all of their children out of the schools. They have been voting crooked judges into office, etc. I am curious if the women were permitted to register to vote, or if their rights under the 19th Amendment to the US Constitution have been violated. If they were registered to vote, there should be documentation of their proof of identity. If the women were forced to vote in accordance with the leaders directive, there could be massive voter fraud going on. Another Federal crime.
 

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