Flight to London Gatwick crashes at airport in India .June 12 th 2025

" 'If I give up searching, I might never recover':

Families of air crash victims cling to hope.


Authorities say they're working to identify victims, but the scale of destruction has made the task immensely difficult.

'It's like trying to tell ashes apart from ashes'.

For families,
the wait has been excruciating.

Many have camped outside the hospital
- in cars or on the streets -
their anguished cries echoing through the corridors.


Just across the city,
another tragedy is still unfolding -
this one at the very site where the plane went down.

BJ Medical College Civil Hospital,
one of Ahmedabad's most respected institutions,
became ground zero
when the aircraft crashed into its hostel on Thursday.

Casualties have been reported,
but the full toll remains unclear.

As the news spread and it began to become increasingly clear that many students had been injured
- possibly even killed -
panic rippled across the campus.

Some began to run, others, too dazed by what they had witnessed, froze on the spot,
their sobs mingling with the screams.

By evening,
the badly damaged corridors stood silent.

Backpacks and half-eaten meals lay abandoned on tables where students had fled.

The air was still thick with smoke, sirens,
and the weight of what had just unfolded."

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"Candlelit vigils held for plane crash victims.


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Vigils have been held in London
to remember the victims of the Air India plane crash.

In Harrow,
a multi-faith service was held
where the mayor said two young girls had lost their father in the disaster,
just weeks after their mother died from cancer.

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Many in the hall quietly wept as candles were lit in a multi-faith service

Another vigil held outside the Indian Embassy in Aldwych was attended by about 100 people,
who lit candles and shared prayers.
Many of those present said they had family members who died in the tragedy.

The mood was quiet and somber
as candles flickered in silence
and mourners shared stories, prayers and moments of reflection."

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The story about a boy who captured the video of a crash…another victim

 
A video of Viswashkumar Ramesh walking out of the site alive to the ambulance. A new video of him coming out of the site has now surfaced.

He is seen in a white t-shirt and holding his phone in his left hand. Thick plumes of smoke rose from the crash site behind him as he made his way out of the premises of the medical college hostel.

The previous video clips of him had surfaced on the same day of the crash, showing him walking out alive miraculously from the site, where everyone was feared dead moments after the crash.

In that video, he was seen stumbling out with scratches, screaming in Gujarati, “Plane fatyo che" (the plane has exploded).



It's amazing how he just emerges from the site (seemingly from the side of the building) with an inferno intensifying behind him. He was probably seconds away from death.


The claim is that the survivor tried to return to the crash site to save his brother, but that's not seen on the video mentioned above.
 
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" 'Time' also cites the results of another study conducted by the University of Greenwich,
according to which
passengers by the emergency exits have a statistically greater chance of survival.

'Time' emphasizes, however,
that many factors influence how safe a given seat ultimately turns out to be,
including, above all,
the circumstances of the accident."

 

British father who was due to be on board the doomed Air India plane that crashed last week is 'grateful' for his life after deciding to change flights at the last minute.

Owen Jackson, 31, from Saffron Walden in Essex, had been in India for work and was expecting to come home on Thursday.

But tied up at work, his colleagues suggested he take a flight back on Saturday instead.

.
On Thursday morning, Flight AI171 crashed shortly after take-off from Ahmedabad in Gujarat, leaving just one survivor from 242 on board, including 53 Britons.

Owen had not told his family on which day he was set to fly, and was in meetings - not checking his phone - as his wife learned of the tragedy.

He had coincidentally been booked on to Seat 11A on the Saturday flight - the same lucky seat number that sole survivor Vishwash Kumar Ramesh had been sitting in on Flight AI171 when it crashed.

'It's a shock,' Owen told The Sun. 'I'm more grateful than anything else - it is such a weird coincidence.'

'You hear it every now and again about planes going down and you don't really think much of it, but when it's the actual aircraft you're potentially getting on two days later, it does make you think.'
 
Below are the maps of the accident area (source: Google Maps). The crash site relative to the airport is shown in the first pic. This clears my earlier confusion about the survivor's account. He was sitting on the left side of the plane, with the campus buildings to his right (second pic), because the flight direction was from NE to SW.

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" 'There would have been more casualties'.

They appreciated the pilot's last decision.

The Air India plane crash claimed nearly 300 lives.
Local residents hailed the plane's pilot as a hero.

His last-ditch decision saved the lives of many people.
He managed to avoid a high-rise apartment building.

'Thanks to the pilot, we survived.
He is a hero.
We are alive because of him'.
say Ahmedabad residents."

 
Second Air India black box is found


"Officials have found the second black box from the doomed Air India flight 171
which will reveal
a second-by-second reconstruction of the events that led to the fatal fireball crash.

The Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR)
captures all audio from the cockpit,
including
- pilot conversations,
- radio transmissions,
- warning alarms
- and ambient mechanical sounds.

It will allow investigators to finally understand
what happened in the moments leading up to one of the world's worst aviation disasters in a decade.


Planes usually carry two black boxes
- small but tough electronic flight data recorders
made with robust materials such as titanium or steel and insulated with fire-resistant materials to withstand extreme conditions during a crash.

One records flight data,
such as altitude and speed

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Illustrative picture


and the other
records sound from the cockpit,
so investigators can hear what the pilots are saying and listen for any unusual noises.

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Illustrative picture

The first black box
was recovered on Friday from the rooftop of a building at the site of the crash just 28 hours after the crash
by India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB)."
 
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"Black boxes... aren't black.

Their contents can also be surprising.


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Many people associate black boxes
with mysterious, unmarked trunks with secret knowledge inside.

It turns out that not only they are not mysterious,
but they are also well marked.

At least the knowledge remains secret
– to get to it,
you have to break through very thick material.

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  • Black boxes are devices that store flight information. The first ones appeared in the 1950s.
  • The name 'black box' is quite misleading - not only are they not black, but they actually consist of two boxes.
  • Even though they are big, heavy blocks, there is only a small chip inside.
However,
there is a chance that in the future such data will be received and collected by satellites.

The thing is
that so far no good enough technology has been invented
that would protect such data from access by outsiders."

Much more in the link from my country's MSM.
The history of a "Black Box".


 
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In the 787, rather than being a CVR and FDR separately, its all in one - Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorder (EAFR).

There are two for redundancy - one in the front, one in the tail. I think the BBC et al who keep saying they have found them separately as CVR and FDR are operating under misinformation? It would be odd for the Air India 787s to have a different setup to other 787s?


The 787 is equipped with two Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorders (EAFR), one installed at the front of the aircraft and the other at the rear. The EAFR is a multifunction recorder that records 25 hours of Flight Data Recorder (FDR) data and 120 minutes of Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) audio into a crash-protected solid-state memory.
 
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In the 787, rather than being a CVR and FDR separately, its all in one - Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorder (EAFR).

There are two for redundancy - one in the front, one in the tail. I think the BBC et al who keep saying they have found them separately as CVR and FDR are operating under misinformation? It would be odd for the Air India 787s to have a different setup to other 787s?


The 787 is equipped with two Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorders (EAFR), one installed at the front of the aircraft and the other at the rear. The EAFR is a multifunction recorder that records 25 hours of Flight Data Recorder (FDR) data and 120 minutes of Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) audio into a crash-protected solid-state memory.
I was surprised that the two black boxes were found two days apart, but it makes sense, if they are in different locations in the aircraft.
 
In the 787, rather than being a CVR and FDR separately, its all in one - Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorder (EAFR).

There are two for redundancy - one in the front, one in the tail. I think the BBC et al who keep saying they have found them separately as CVR and FDR are operating under misinformation? It would be odd for the Air India 787s to have a different setup to other 787s?


The 787 is equipped with two Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorders (EAFR), one installed at the front of the aircraft and the other at the rear. The EAFR is a multifunction recorder that records 25 hours of Flight Data Recorder (FDR) data and 120 minutes of Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) audio into a crash-protected solid-state memory.
There would not be a different set up for an Air India 787 set up.
 

"Arjun Patoliya, 37,
was heading home to the UK on the Gatwick-bound Boeing 787 Dreamliner
after visiting to hold a funeral for his late wife Bharti Patoliya, 43,
who passed away from cancer just 18 days before the crash.

The loving husband made the trip with the sole purpose
of fulfilling her final wish to scatter her ashes in her homeland in Gujarat
and her floral urn submerged in a local holy river.

Tragically,
he died after the doomed Air India flight AI-171 crashed.

The couple have two daughters,
aged four and eight,
who stayed at home in the UK
and are now mourning the deaths of both their parents
in the space of just 18 days."

This is heartbreaking 😢

"All funds raised
will go directly to a legal trust or the appointed guardians
to ensure every penny is dedicated to the needs of the two girls."
 
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There would not be a different set up for an Air India 787 set up.
right, didn't think so. So I realise why the media might get it wrong, but they're quoting Indian officials. Seems weird for them to say "we had the FDR but not the CVR" when they should be together by default. I wonder if its a translation issue. Or if something happened to the voice data on one of the EAFR, meaning they had to find the other to have all the data.

Anyway. So long as its all there, and can all be analysed as quickly as possible.
 
right, didn't think so. So I realise why the media might get it wrong, but they're quoting Indian officials. Seems weird for them to say "we had the FDR but not the CVR" when they should be together by default. I wonder if its a translation issue. Or if something happened to the voice data on one of the EAFR, meaning they had to find the other to have all the data.

Anyway. So long as its all there, and can all be analysed as quickly as possible.
Flight Deck Recorder vs 🤬🤬🤬🤬 Pit voice Recorder…and yes translation maybe consideration. For a double engine failure on a 787 is a somewhat first.
 

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