Flight to London Gatwick crashes at airport in India .June 12 th 2025

[indicolite22]

There is a picture of the second black box component retrieved, stating that it is the CVR (more pics at the link):

First Images Of A Charred Cockpit Voice Recorder At Air India Crash Site In Ahmedabad

Images of the Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) from the Air India crash site showed the device charred and surrounded by burnt aircraft debris.

www.news18.com

 

[Dotta]

"Another Air India Boeing 787 suffers technical issue.​

An Air India Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner was forced to turn around and return to the airport it departed from due to a technical issue,
the airline said on Monday.

The AI315 flight left Hong Kong and headed to New Delhi before turning back after the pilot suspected a problem.

Air India said the aircraft is undergoing checks
'as a matter of abundant precaution'."

Another Air India Boeing 787 suffers technical issue

An Air India Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner was forced to turn around and return to the airport it departed from due to a technical issue, the airline said on Monday. The AI315 flight left Hong Kong and head...

breakingthenews.net

Kolejny problem Dreamlinera linii Air India. "Potencjalna awaria"

Pilot samolotu Air India miał podejrzenie usterki maszyny w trakcie rejsu z Hongkongu do Nowego Delhi. Boeing 787-8 został zmuszony do przerwania podróży i powrócił na miejsce startu. Incydent zakończył się bezpiecznym lądowaniem, a pasażerowie nie odnieśli żadnych obrażeń.

podroze.onet.pl

Samolot Air India musiał zawrócić. Pilot zauważył awarię. Problemy Dreamlinera tuż po starcie

Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner linii Air India wrócił na lotnisko w Hongkongu niedługo po starcie - informuje agencja Reutera. Według indyjskich mediów pilot

wydarzenia.interia.pl

 

[Poedelini]

It's crazy how youtubers with their own opinion of the crash are getting asked for media interviews for big company's. Just pure speculation on a grainy video. Im baffled.

Jmo

 

[Dotta]

It is stated clearly:

"Investigators have recovered the CVR
from the crashed Air India flight,
a key step in uncovering what caused last week's deadly accident.

The CVR
captures audio from the cockpit, including pilot conversations, alarms and ambient sounds.

The flight data recorder (FDR),
which logs crucial flight parameters like altitude, speed and engine performance,
had been recovered from the debris on Friday."


So.... IMO....

2 components of the "Black Box".

No mention of
(Quoting a poster of an earlier post)
"all in one - Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorder (EAFR)."
2 of them.

But hey,
I'm not an aviation expert.
I rely solely on MSM reports.

But, mind you,
why wouldn't these EAFRs be mentioned if they were actually the case???

https://twitter.com/x/status/1934514564168642679

 

[MollyHarps]

Second miracle of Seat 11A as Brit reveals how he cheated death

On Thursday, Flight AI171 crashed shortly after take-off from Ahmedabad Airport in Gujarat, leaving just one survivor from 242 on board, including 53 Britons.

www.dailymail.co.uk

British father who was due to be on board the doomed Air India plane that crashed last week is 'grateful' for his life after deciding to change flights at the last minute.

Owen Jackson, 31, from Saffron Walden in Essex, had been in India for work and was expecting to come home on Thursday.

But tied up at work, his colleagues suggested he take a flight back on Saturday instead.

.
On Thursday morning, Flight AI171 crashed shortly after take-off from Ahmedabad in Gujarat, leaving just one survivor from 242 on board, including 53 Britons.

Owen had not told his family on which day he was set to fly, and was in meetings - not checking his phone - as his wife learned of the tragedy.

He had coincidentally been booked on to Seat 11A on the Saturday flight - the same lucky seat number that sole survivor Vishwash Kumar Ramesh had been sitting in on Flight AI171 when it crashed.

'It's a shock,' Owen told The Sun. 'I'm more grateful than anything else - it is such a weird coincidence.'

'You hear it every now and again about planes going down and you don't really think much of it, but when it's the actual aircraft you're potentially getting on two days later, it does make you think.'

Im sorry but I don’t believe this story at all.

Who doesn’t tell their wife & family what flight they are on. Or that they’ve had to stay working away for a couple more days.

Somebody trying to get publicity I think.

 

[indicolite22]

And I'm confused again. Map of the crash site (1 = point of initial impact with picture of the tail embedded in the roof; pic 2 = looking north; pic 3 = looking south). Where did the survivor land? He was sitting on the left side. Unless he landed at point 2, the buildings were on his side. Judging by Google Street View and the video of the survivor, I think he walked out at point 4 (different view than pic 4).

Air India disaster: rescue teams with sniffer dogs comb site of deadly plane crash

Narendra Modi visits Ahmedabad crash site where at least 265 people died, with one passenger on Boeing jet surviving

www.theguardian.com

Another view at point 4 (source: Google Maps):

 

[Dotta]

'Funerals held ​

as Air India crash victim remains ​

handed over to relatives in Ahmedabad.​

Mourners in India have covered white coffins with flowers
as funerals were held
for some of the at least 279 people killed in one of the world's worst plane crashes in decades.

Health officials
have begun handing over the first passenger bodies identified through DNA testing,
delivering them to grieving relatives in the western city of Ahmedabad,
but the wait went on for most families.

As of Sunday evening (India time),
47 crash victims had been identified,
according to Rajnish Patel, a doctor at Ahmedabad's civil hospital.

'This is a meticulous and slow process,
so it has to be done meticulously only',
Dr Patel said.

'The majority of those injured on the ground',
have been discharged,
Dr Patel said,
'with one or two remaining in critical care'."

Funerals held as Air India crash victim remains handed over to relatives in Ahmedabad - ABC News

amp-abc-net-au.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[Dotta]

"Walking Out Of Hell..."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1934585850731368939

 

[Eloise]

Life is weird. It just wasn't his time. JMO.

 

[indicolite22]

Another map of the crash site:

The terrifying moment when Air India plane crashed into a canteen

The BBC speaks to eyewitnesses and survivors on the ground to reveal what happened when the Air India plane crashed.

www.bbc.com

Aerial view (initial impact on the left site of the picture):

DGCA makes pre-flight checks mandatory for all Boeing 787 aircraft: Fuel system, engine control and take-off procedures to be reviewed; decision taken after Ahmedabad crash

The Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) on Friday ordered safety checks of Air India’s Boeing 787 Dreamliner fleet. The order comes a day after the Ahmedabad plane crash on June 12, which killed 241 people. | In the wake of the tragic Air India flight AI-171 crash in Ahmedabad that...

www.bhaskarenglish.in

 

[Spectrix]

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So, I'm looking at the crash site on google maps,
Air India AI171 travelled less than half a runway length before crashing.

 

[Spectrix]

And I just find things like this super interesting.
When you look at the building where the tail section impacted on Google Street View...

 

[Officer Dibble]

Has anyone posted this? From yesterday. I hope it wasn't contaminated fuel like he suggests it might be, causing possible dual engine failure. He shows the original video, not the video of the video to show the RAT being deployed underneath the plane. Just his theory but looks plausible to my opinion. JMO

 

[Officer Dibble]

It's crazy how youtubers with their own opinion of the crash are getting asked for media interviews for big company's. Just pure speculation on a grainy video. Im baffled.

Jmo

the video I just linked shows the original footage, not the grainy one that was a video of a video that went viral.

 

[Dotta]

Has anyone posted this? From yesterday. I hope it wasn't contaminated fuel like he suggests it might be, causing possible dual engine failure. He shows the original video, not the video of the video to show the RAT being deployed underneath the plane. Just his theory but looks plausible to my opinion. JMO

Thanks for interesting video.

Re engines failure theory

In fact,
an expert in my country said the same on 14 June.

Quote:

"Piotr Czech, an aviation expert,
told the Polish Press Agency that

the crash recordings suggested a loss of power in two engines,

although he stressed that these were only speculations and that hard evidence had to be awaited.

'Looking at the footage,
it is clear that the aircraft reaches a certain point where it climbs and actually stops slightly,
maintains a horizontal flight path
and begins to fall.

It looks as if the aircraft lost power in two engines,
but we will have to wait for the results of the tests',

said Czech."

Katastrofa Dreamlinera. Ekspert: Patrząc na nagrania widać ewidentnie

Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner linii Air India rozbił się tuż po starcie z Ahmadabadu. Ekspert lotniczy Piotr Czech wskazuje na możliwą utratę mocy w silnikach.

www.o2.pl

 

[Spectrix]

I was looking on Google Maps for where the Eye Witness filmed the plane going over, on his phone.

After searching for a while I found the building on Street View - (Top Right, yellow/brown building, is the balcony where the boy was filming from.

The video capturing the tragic Air India AI 171 crash was filmed by a 17-year-old boy named Aryan Ansari from Ahmedabad. On June 12, 2025, Aryan was standing on the terrace of a three-storey building near the airport, casually recording planes flying overhead to show his friends. He did not anticipate that he would inadvertently document one of the most devastating aviation disasters in recent history.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933089931347345596

Red Arrow is the flight path. Blue Arrow is where the boy was standing.

 

[indicolite22]

Apart from the CVR and FDR, the Air India flight also had a DVR (digital video recorder) installed, reportedly with 12 cameras in and around the plane. The entire accident might have been recorded on video. This would not have been possible in the US, due to resistance of pilot unions.

https://www.financialexpress.com/india-news/what-is-a-dvr-key-device-recovered-from-air-india-ai-171-crash-may-hold-key-evidence/3879001/

 

[Dotta]

"Delhi and Tokyo to examine Boeing 787s.
US fears drastic decisions.

Aviation regulators in India and Japan
have ordered inspections of at least 175 Dreamliners, Boeing 787 aircraft,
reports the industry portal rynek-lotniczy.pl.

They justified the decision with the Thursday crash of an Air India aircraft.

The United States,
where Boeing is manufactured,
has appealed for caution.

It has expressed the opinion that grounding these planes would be premature.

Washington argues that those analyzing the causes of the tragedy have not identified any immediate threats.

Boeing has assured that if any threats are discovered during the investigation,
it will not hesitate to implement the necessary measures.

Dreamliner crash. First in history.

This was the first Dreamliner crash since the aircraft began operating.

Up until now,
it had been Boeing's best-selling wide-body aircraft
- the aircraft had never been involved in a plane crash before."

Prawie 300 osób zginęło w katastrofie. USA obawia się drastycznych kroków

Urzędy nadzoru lotniczego Indii i Japonii nakazały inspekcję co najmniej 175 Dreamlinerów, samolotów Boeing 787 - informuje portal branżowy rynek-lotniczy.pl.

biznes.interia.pl

"Although the situation is difficult -
Boeing's senior management canceled its visit to the Paris Air Show due to the crash of Flight AI 171 -
Indian aviation authorities have not made a decision to ground the Dreamliners completely.

Air India's fleet consists of 33 Dreamliners,
of which 26 units are B787-8s.

In Japan,
142 such aircraft are registered
and are used by All Nippon Airways and Japan Airlines,
as well as their low-cost carrier subsidiaries: AirJapan and ZipAir."

Indie i Japonia nakazują kontrolę B787

Urzędy nadzoru lotniczego Indii i Japonii nakazały inspekcję wszystkich „Liniowców Marzeń” użytkowanych przez rodzime linie lotnicze. Prewencyjne działanie związane jest z katastrofą boeinga 787 Air Indii, który rozbił się tuż po starcie z lotniska w Ahmedabadzie. Kontrola obejmie ponad 175...

www.rynek-lotniczy.pl

 

[indicolite22]

Has anyone posted this? From yesterday. I hope it wasn't contaminated fuel like he suggests it might be, causing possible dual engine failure. He shows the original video, not the video of the video to show the RAT being deployed underneath the plane. Just his theory but looks plausible to my opinion. JMO

Before the RAT was spotted in the video, he was blaming the pilots. I'd also recommend blancolirio on yt for expert opinion - he's very fact-based.

 

[Dotta]

Before the RAT was spotted in the video, he was blaming the pilots. I'd also recommend blancolirio on yt for expert opinion - he's very fact-based.

I'm not sure we can talk about "blaming".

In all kinds of catastrophes there are usually 2 options:

- human error
or
- technical malfunction

(Sometimes natural phenomena occur)

So...
Experts discuss all possible scenarios.
It is their task after all.

JMO