Flight to London Gatwick crashes at airport in India .June 12 th 2025

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Cargo businesses amongst other build/hire/rent very close to an airport.

I remember Polish Captain Tadeusz Wrona
and his emergency landing of Boeing 767 at the Okęcie airport in Warsaw in 2011,
without a protruding chassis.

The plane flew from Newark in the USA and despite the malfunction,
Captain Wrona managed to safely plant the machine,
saving the lives of 231 people on board.

This landing brought him world publicity and compared to the American pilot, Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger, who made a similar feat on the Hudson River.

But they both had space/area to do these manoeuvres.

JMO
 
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To be fair. Feeling the plane descending right after take off is not common at all. People must have known something was wrong, but not enough to the extend to know they were about to crash. Maybe the people who had a window seat, could see what was coming.

Jmo
I think the passengers would have totally aware something was wrong when the roar of the engines suddenly died away and then the descent.
 
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To be fair. Feeling the plane descending right after take off is not common at all. People must have known something was wrong, but not enough to the extend to know they were about to crash. Maybe the people who had a window seat, could see what was coming.

Jmo

You may be right. I really hope they didn't though. 🥺
 
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Air India AI171 second by second timeline

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While clearly recognising and acknowledging that this all happened in the space of seconds, and absolutely not laying the blame anywhere, I wonder why the first instinct - just instinct, I'm not suggesting there was actually time to make a difference - was not to switch the engine fuel switches back on before making the Mayday call? Wouldn't the first reaction normally be to attempt to correct it before reporting it? We know that they had noticed at least one of the switches had been moved.

JMOO
 
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While clearly recognising and acknowledging that this all happened in the space of seconds, and absolutely not laying the blame anywhere, I wonder why the first instinct - just instinct, I'm not suggesting there was actually time to make a difference - was not to switch the engine fuel switches back on before making the Mayday call? Wouldn't the first reaction normally be to attempt to correct it before reporting it? We know that they had noticed at least one of the switches had been moved.

JMOO

Yes, the first instinct, aside from flying the plane, was to attempt to correct the problem.

The flight lasted for a total of 30 seconds. The Mayday call was made during the last 4 seconds of the flight, immediately before hitting the building. By that point the First Officer knew his fate. The Mayday call was made solely to alert authorities that urgent help would be needed after the crash.
 
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While clearly recognising and acknowledging that this all happened in the space of seconds, and absolutely not laying the blame anywhere, I wonder why the first instinct - just instinct, I'm not suggesting there was actually time to make a difference - was not to switch the engine fuel switches back on before making the Mayday call? Wouldn't the first reaction normally be to attempt to correct it before reporting it? We know that they had noticed at least one of the switches had been moved.

JMOO
And that the response to the lost of thrust was "why did you do that?" not "why did we just lose power." I think one saw out of the corner of his eye, the other flip the switches.
 
  • #627
While clearly recognising and acknowledging that this all happened in the space of seconds, and absolutely not laying the blame anywhere, I wonder why the first instinct - just instinct, I'm not suggesting there was actually time to make a difference - was not to switch the engine fuel switches back on before making the Mayday call? Wouldn't the first reaction normally be to attempt to correct it before reporting it? We know that they had noticed at least one of the switches had been moved.

JMOO
While it is very easy for us to sit here and think and debate what has happened and what could have been , there is a lot of truth in your post , for one simple reason and any pilot I'm sure will agree :

Aviate, navigate , communicate

In that order , always .
 
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May have zero relation, but another Boeing 787 had an engine failure last month after take-off in the US. Was able to declare a mayday and land safely. (Washington Dulles to Munich, Germany, 25 July 2025.)

 
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