Focusing Solely on Cindy's Inconsistencies

[MAMABEAR]

I really have to say that CA is pretty good at what she does. WELL, maybe not to good or we wouldn't be able to detect it unless we are just the best---:grouphug: But come on---there is no way I could keep up with all the B.S. and who fits with what B.S.---that just seems be such a backwards kind of life. I lie sometimes for one reason or nother---sometimes just cuz it ain't somebody's bees wax to know one way or other---but if I had to member who I told a lie to and who I didn't and which lie I told to them or others---dam gits me mixed up just typin it. Where is there any "real" time for just old ordinary life. Would run me ragged even if I had a notebook full of the lie folder.

 

[mitzi]

I really have to say that CA is pretty good at what she does. WELL, maybe not to good or we wouldn't be able to detect it unless we are just the best---:grouphug: But come on---there is no way I could keep up with all the B.S. and who fits with what B.S.---that just seems be such a backwards kind of life. I lie sometimes for one reason or nother---sometimes just cuz it ain't somebody's bees wax to know one way or other---but if I had to member who I told a lie to and who I didn't and which lie I told to them or others---dam gits me mixed up just typin it. Where is there any "real" time for just old ordinary life. Would run me ragged even if I had a notebook full of the lie folder.

This is exactly why we are able to see that Cindy is telling lies. She has told so many different lies to different people and news sources that she can no longer remember who she told what to. No wonder her brain seems to be fried! :crazy:

 

[RR0004]

This is exactly why we are able to see that Cindy is telling lies. She has told so many different lies to different people and news sources that she can no longer remember who she told what to. No wonder her brain seems to be fried! :crazy:

...and we're just a bunch of dumb "bloggers"?!

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

I really have to say that CA is pretty good at what she does. WELL, maybe not to good or we wouldn't be able to detect it unless we are just the best---:grouphug: But come on---there is no way I could keep up with all the B.S. and who fits with what B.S.---that just seems be such a backwards kind of life. I lie sometimes for one reason or nother---sometimes just cuz it ain't somebody's bees wax to know one way or other---but if I had to member who I told a lie to and who I didn't and which lie I told to them or others---dam gits me mixed up just typin it. Where is there any "real" time for just old ordinary life. Would run me ragged even if I had a notebook full of the lie folder.

I wouldn't begin to know how to organize a "Lie" folder. Maybe this is something one could hawk on TV for 19.95 providing of course, it had all the things one needed to lie, cover up crimes etc. Maybe CA needs to look into this, she does after all have the most hands on experience with this sort of thing.....jus sayin'....jmo.

 

[countzero]

I wouldn't begin to know how to organize a "Lie" folder. Maybe this is something one could hawk on TV for 19.95 providing of course, it had all the things one needed to lie, cover up crimes etc. Maybe CA needs to look into this, she does after all have the most hands on experience with this sort of thing.....jus sayin'....jmo.

Yeppers, she sure could legitimately endorse a book "liars for dummies" since she can't endorse, not having any experience in, a "grief foundation". :razz:

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I just watched this 17+ minute "cameo" of Cindy that was recorded on 6 Aug 08. She talks of the importance of looking for a live Caylee (among other things, i.e.; gas cans, not to concentrate on Casey, blah, blah, blah). But at the very end, during the last 60 seconds, she talks about celebrating Caylee's birthday and that if Caylee isn't there they will just have a quiet family time at home. And she says they will be communicating with Caylee by prayer.

That really struck me the wrong way. I would never consider communicating with a live person through prayer even if they were in a far away, dangerous place. Oh, like when my son served his 3 tours in Iraq ~ I prayed for him (many, many times each day) but not to him. I don't think you communicate with people through prayer unless they're already in Heaven. Maybe it's just Cindy's spiritual naivete that made her say this ~ But it makes me wonder if she didn't subconsciously contradict herself with the truth!

http://www.wftv.com/video/17110642/index.html

 

[carrie]

Yeppers, she sure could legitimately endorse a book "liars for dummies" since she can't endorse, not having any experience in, a "grief foundation". :razz:

(BBM)

How unfortunate. If I was acting a fool like they are in FL, lying my butt off, you'd better believe LE wouldn't let me get away with it. I mean, lying is what KC was initially charged with... so how come they are so immune? They're not 'greiving' grandparents, no matter how much they spout it. . . .

(BBM & respectfully snipped)

I have to respectfully disagree with the comments I bolded above. While George and Cindy have acted in some seemingly strange and perhaps inapropriate ways, I don't think it's fair to say they have not been grieving or experienced grief.

They lost their granddaughter that they loved very much and had been providing and/or caring for since she was born. In addition to that, they've basically lost their daughter too. They've been devastated. Their whole life has been turned upside down.

They may not be handling their grief or the situation the way we think they should, but they certainly have, and are, experiencing grief after such a terrible loss. IMO.

 

[countzero]

(BBM)



(BBM & respectfully snipped)

I have to respectfully disagree with the comments I bolded above. While George and Cindy have acted in some seemingly strange and perhaps inapropriate ways, I don't think it's fair to say they have not been grieving or experienced grief.

They lost their granddaughter that they loved very much and had been providing and/or caring for since she was born. In addition to that, they've basically lost their daughter too. They've been devastated. Their whole life has been turned upside down.

They may not be handling their grief or the situation the way we think they should, but they certainly have, and are, experiencing grief after such a terrible loss. IMO.

While you are certainly entitled to your opinion I don't agree with it. I will agree that there is no book written on how to grieve a passing. Caylee did not pass naturally, she was murdered by her parent. By the evidence so far released, it is more than evident to me, I won't speak for others, that CA/GA know and have known that KC murdered Caylee. I won't go into detail because there are numerous threads I have written that give my opinions and reasons why.

I would however, be interested in your opinions as to exactly how they have exhibited and are experiencing their grief since I must have missed it in the docs somewhere. I am not being snary, but would really like to understand how you come to your conclusion.

 

[Amil]

(BBM)



(BBM & respectfully snipped)

I have to respectfully disagree with the comments I bolded above. While George and Cindy have acted in some seemingly strange and perhaps inapropriate ways, I don't think it's fair to say they have not been grieving or experienced grief.

They lost their granddaughter that they loved very much and had been providing and/or caring for since she was born. In addition to that, they've basically lost their daughter too. They've been devastated. Their whole life has been turned upside down.

They may not be handling their grief or the situation the way we think they should, but they certainly have, and are, experiencing grief after such a terrible loss. IMO.

While I can't imagine them not grieving the granddaughter they loved very much, grief is not the face they show to the public. Grief is being unable to speak. Grief is forgetting to put on your makeup and forgetting to dye your hair. Grief is withdrawal from the public.
What we have seen is anger and lies. We have seen television appearances. We have seen new hairstyles and a lot more jewelry and new clothes.
We have not seen grief.

 

[The Eunice Burns]

While you are certainly entitled to your opinion I don't agree with it. I will agree that there is no book written on how to grieve a passing. Caylee did not pass naturally, she was murdered by her parent. By the evidence so far released, it is more than evident to me, I won't speak for others, that CA/GA know and have known that KC murdered Caylee. I won't go into detail because there are numerous threads I have written that give my opinions and reasons why.

I would however, be interested in your opinions as to exactly how they have exhibited and are experiencing their grief since I must have missed it in the docs somewhere. I am not being snary, but would really like to understand how you come to your conclusion.

I agree. I was turned off by the As from the start, but I gave them a little slack in my opinion of them b/c of the loss of their granddaughter. As time has gone on, I've realized that they are not and should not be immune to criticism for their actions simply b/c they lost their granddaughter. Horrible tragedies befall all sorts of people. They happen to horrible people too.

 

[Just Jayla]

I just watched this 17+ minute "cameo" of Cindy that was recorded on 6 Aug 08. She talks of the importance of looking for a live Caylee (among other things, i.e.; gas cans, not to concentrate on Casey, blah, blah, blah). But at the very end, during the last 60 seconds, she talks about celebrating Caylee's birthday and that if Caylee isn't there they will just have a quiet family time at home. And she says they will be communicating with Caylee by prayer.

That really struck me the wrong way. I would never consider communicating with a live person through prayer even if they were in a far away, dangerous place. Oh, like when my son served his 3 tours in Iraq ~ I prayed for him (many, many times each day) but not to him. I don't think you communicate with people through prayer unless they're already in Heaven. Maybe it's just Cindy's spiritual naivete that made her say this ~ But it makes me wonder if she didn't subconsciously contradict herself with the truth!

http://www.wftv.com/video/17110642/index.html

BBM, this very well could be the case-I have not always been the most devout person, but I do know a thing or two that CA has said (and done) are pretty contradictory to Christian belief.
For instance, she frequently uses the Lord's name in vein, basically telling others that her behavior is okay, because she will pray and that will make her all better-If we would just pray like her, we would not be so "hateful."
She also told LE (or maybe GA/LA told them), that they did not go to church often, no real religious preference to speak of.
Not that I love to give her the benefit of the doubt, but she may be in a church where her pastor/deacon tells her to pray out to Caylee. Ya never know, and she could just be parroting him as the A's love to do.

 

[The Eunice Burns]

"You can't talk out of both sides of your mouth"--CA referring to LE. LOL Kettle, it's pot calling........

 

[mitzi]

I just watched this 17+ minute "cameo" of Cindy that was recorded on 6 Aug 08. She talks of the importance of looking for a live Caylee (among other things, i.e.; gas cans, not to concentrate on Casey, blah, blah, blah). But at the very end, during the last 60 seconds, she talks about celebrating Caylee's birthday and that if Caylee isn't there they will just have a quiet family time at home. And she says they will be communicating with Caylee by prayer.

That really struck me the wrong way. I would never consider communicating with a live person through prayer even if they were in a far away, dangerous place. Oh, like when my son served his 3 tours in Iraq ~ I prayed for him (many, many times each day) but not to him. I don't think you communicate with people through prayer unless they're already in Heaven. Maybe it's just Cindy's spiritual naivete that made her say this ~ But it makes me wonder if she didn't subconsciously contradict herself with the truth!

http://www.wftv.com/video/17110642/index.html

I commented on this video in the other thread you posted it on, but this comment pertains to CA's inconsistancies...In this video, CA states that if it is proven that KC did something to Caylee, she'd (CA) be the first to blame her (KC). Well...guess that was another "mis-truth"!

 

[RR0004]

I commented on this video in the other thread you posted it on, but this comment pertains to CA's inconsistancies...In this video, CA states that if it is proven that KC did something to Caylee, she'd (CA) be the first to blame her (KC). Well...guess that was another "mis-truth"!

I can't wait to the post-conviction press conference. (fingers and toes crossed)

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I commented on this video in the other thread you posted it on, but this comment pertains to CA's inconsistancies...In this video, CA states that if it is proven that KC did something to Caylee, she'd (CA) be the first to blame her (KC). Well...guess that was another "mis-truth"!

Yes, I caught that, too. But did you also notice that she qualified her statement by saying "direct" evidence (not circumstantial). I thought that was odd; as though she agreed that there was good circumstantial evidence already gathered . . .

 

[LambChop]

While you are certainly entitled to your opinion I don't agree with it. I will agree that there is no book written on how to grieve a passing. Caylee did not pass naturally, she was murdered by her parent. By the evidence so far released, it is more than evident to me, I won't speak for others, that CA/GA know and have known that KC murdered Caylee. I won't go into detail because there are numerous threads I have written that give my opinions and reasons why.

I would however, be interested in your opinions as to exactly how they have exhibited and are experiencing their grief since I must have missed it in the docs somewhere. I am not being snary, but would really like to understand how you come to your conclusion.

They are stuck in the "Anger" phase of the grieving process. They may be there a long, long time.

 

[countzero]

They are stuck in the "Anger" phase of the grieving process. They may be there a long, long time.

Anger phase ???? I know about the anger phase of a loved one passing; been there, done that.

That boat of anger they were on in the beginning of the case isn't floating down the river of denial anymore. That boat docked on the side of "oops, we got caught lying :doh: and covering up the deed" . Now it is docked on the deflection of guilt phase.

LC, I do like reading your posts and agree with ya most of the time . This isn't one of them.

 

[LambChop]

I took a psych course in college, "Death, Grief and Loss". You can be stuck in a phase for years. The A's are in denial and their anger is at the public because they cannot admit their daughter is guilty of such a horrible act. Healing for them is a long, long, long way off. There is NO excuse for the way they are acting, the lying, setting up a foundation for missing children when their own granddaughter was murdered by her mother and other actions they do that just don't make sense. You can feel sorry for them for the loss of their granddaughter and the buck stops there. The other tricks they pull, they are just using their grief as a weapon to protect them from the truth. CA may never recover and grow old as a very bitter, bitter person.

 

[texaslb218]

OT----
Logged on, catching up. I went down this page and put in my "thanks" on so many posts. You are all astute. All I can conclude is that I am either intellectually lazy, have no original thoughts, or you all have sucked up all the great posts and left me none!! I think my lack of contribution here is YOUR faults!

 

[countzero]

I took a psych course in college, "Death, Grief and Loss". You can be stuck in a phase for years. The A's are in denial and their anger is at the public because they cannot admit their daughter is guilty of such a horrible act. Healing for them is a long, long, long way off. There is NO excuse for the way they are acting, the lying, setting up a foundation for missing children when their own granddaughter was murdered by her mother and other actions they do that just don't make sense. You can feel sorry for them for the loss of their granddaughter and the buck stops there. The other tricks they pull, they are just using their grief as a weapon to protect them from the truth. CA may never recover and grow old as a very bitter, bitter person.

Well written, I agree in parts of your post. I write my opinions from personal experience. I was stuck in the anger grieving phase. However I never or have known anyone who also was in the anger/denial phase, behaved in the destructive/deflective manner as CA has.

Let me ask ya this: Would CA grieve for Caylee knowing that Caylee was murdered but no one outside the A clan knew about it. And would CA still grieve and continue when Caylee's remains were eventually found? I have often wondered about this scenario since I came about the theory that CA knew Caylee was murdered and they covered it beginning June 15-16, 08.

What I see as CA's portray of grief is-

manipulation of the public concept of herself
denial - that KC was involved
deflection - blaming LE, JG, AH to name a few
soliciting donations for financial personal gains because of Caylee's murder
control issues - having to be in charge/control of every aspect of every issue that CA must interface with
boundary issues

I know I left other examples out. There is no way that CA was experiencing "ugly coping or grief" nor can any of her actions be considered an expression of grief. She, in my opinion, incapable of feeling grief much less expressing it.