Food and Recipes while under Coronavirus quarantine #6

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  • #301
Just when I thought I was done with roasting a whole bird, my brother called on Sunday to tell us that he had won a 20# JennieO turkey in a raffle. He hasn't had a working stove for several years and "cooks" with a hot plate, microwave, and toaster oven. Obviously, he can't cook a 20# bird and asked if I would contribute my culinary skills in exchange for some of the breast meat and keep the drumsticks and wings for soup. I wasn't thrilled about the request, but DH will help get the turkey into the oven tomorrow, and we'll contribute mashed potatoes and gravy that can be shared with my other brother. I'll probably make Turkey Divan with the breast meat and plan on a big pot of turkey soup sometime during December.

DH will go swimming this afternoon after which we'll go to Nino's for some items that we'll need for the turkey. I'm hoping it's not too crowded as I love to browse the aisles to see the vast array of products that they carry during the holiday season. I'm especially intrigued by the display of holiday sweets that I remember from childhood: Ribbon candy, marzipan, colorful hard candies, plum pudding, different flavors of candy canes, chocolate Santas, etc. I love the trip down memory lane :)
Oh my, I don’t envy you! Whole turkeys are heavy and difficult to handle.Glad you have hubby to help!
 
  • #302
DH promptly deboned the turkey, and I now have it in the instant pot turning into stock. I will need to go to the produce market tomorrow as my veggie drawer is empty except for one extra lemon. Maybe I can get DH to clean it while it is empty.
 
  • #303
Oh my, I don’t envy you! Whole turkeys are heavy and difficult to handle.Glad you have hubby to help!
One year I bought a 30 pound turkey, we never had enough stuffing and I was determined that I would cook enough stuffing that we wouldn’t run out.

The 30 pound turkey was so heavy and hard to handle that I decided it would be better to cook two 20 pound turkeys than one 30 pound.
 
  • #304
As an outsider - for obvious geographical reasons, Australians don't do thanksgiving - I'm kind of bemused by the obsession with turkey. It's not a massive thing out here? I greatly prefer chicken. And we don't do it for Christmas, either. I know it's common to do a roast of some kind, but it's just as common for all the meats to be cold, and served with a variety of salads. When it can be 40c on Christmas day with a total fire ban stopping you using the barbeque outside, it makes sense to eat ham and coleslaw rather than turning the oven on and heating up the house even more just to have hot meat and hot roast potatoes.
 
  • #305
I don’t think there’s an obsession with turkey: It’s just traditional to serve it on Thanksgiving. For many of us, it’s the only day of the year that we eat it, except for leftovers. If there is an “obsession”, I’d say it’s more of an obsession with tradition. Thanksgiving, being in Autumn, lends itself well to a set menu, with “fall-ish” kinds of things, so this holiday is the one, for most of us, with a fairly “set” menu.

It’s generally one where the main components complement each other well, with the tart, tangy, cranberry sauce offsetting the rich gravy and dressing, etc. I look forward to it every year, never to repeat it during the rest of the year.

It’s a tradition, even in its regional and familial variations, that brings a country full of disparate people together, if only for a few days: We’re all madly grocery shopping, comparing notes on the best way to get the dark meat done at the same time the white meat is; gravy with giblets or without (there’s always someone at every gathering who likes it with and someone who likes it without) and the southerners who’ve never had pumpkin pie (and likely never will) vs. the northerners who’ve never had sweet potato. (But whether pumpkin or sweet potato, most agree that one of the two is an integral part of a Thanksgiving dessert table.)

It’s a tiny slice of commonality in a vastly diverse nation. I find it delightful!
 
  • #306
I don’t think there’s an obsession with turkey: It’s just traditional to serve it on Thanksgiving. For many of us, it’s the only day of the year that we eat it, except for leftovers. If there is an “obsession”, I’d say it’s more of an obsession with tradition. Thanksgiving, being in Autumn, lends itself well to a set menu, with “fall-ish” kinds of things, so this holiday is the one, for most of us, with a fairly “set” menu.

It’s generally one where the main components complement each other well, with the tart, tangy, cranberry sauce offsetting the rich gravy and dressing, etc. I look forward to it every year, never to repeat it during the rest of the year.

It’s a tradition, even in its regional and familial variations, that brings a country full of disparate people together, if only for a few days: We’re all madly grocery shopping, comparing notes on the best way to get the dark meat done at the same time the white meat is; gravy with giblets or without (there’s always someone at every gathering who likes it with and someone who likes it without) and the southerners who’ve never had pumpkin pie (and likely never will) vs. the northerners who’ve never had sweet potato. (But whether pumpkin or sweet potato, most agree that one of the two is an integral part of a Thanksgiving dessert table.)

It’s a tiny slice of commonality in a vastly diverse nation. I find it delightful!
Nicely stated. Turkey has been only Thanksgiving and usually Christmas. Now with home smokers, my s-i-l has started smoking a bird to have at early summer cook outs. He gets them on sale at holiday and freezes up to six months.
 
  • #307
We have pumpkin pie in the south. You don’t get any more southern than south AL and I just finished the last piece.
 
  • #308
I don’t think there’s an obsession with turkey: It’s just traditional to serve it on Thanksgiving. For many of us, it’s the only day of the year that we eat it, except for leftovers. If there is an “obsession”, I’d say it’s more of an obsession with tradition. Thanksgiving, being in Autumn, lends itself well to a set menu, with “fall-ish” kinds of things, so this holiday is the one, for most of us, with a fairly “set” menu.

It’s generally one where the main components complement each other well, with the tart, tangy, cranberry sauce offsetting the rich gravy and dressing, etc. I look forward to it every year, never to repeat it during the rest of the year.

It’s a tradition, even in its regional and familial variations, that brings a country full of disparate people together, if only for a few days: We’re all madly grocery shopping, comparing notes on the best way to get the dark meat done at the same time the white meat is; gravy with giblets or without (there’s always someone at every gathering who likes it with and someone who likes it without) and the southerners who’ve never had pumpkin pie (and likely never will) vs. the northerners who’ve never had sweet potato. (But whether pumpkin or sweet potato, most agree that one of the two is an integral part of a Thanksgiving dessert table.)

It’s a tiny slice of commonality in a vastly diverse nation. I find it delightful!
I just meant, as an outsider, it's interesting to see everyone focused hard on how exactly to get it just the way you want it. Whereas, I don't think I know anyone who's ever cooked one. I certainly never have. I've roasted beef, lamb, chicken, pork, fish, and even duck, but never turkey.

I have eaten turkey at Christmas celebrations at my aunt's when I was a kid, but it was always bought precooked and sliced and served cold. It was never on the bone, just like a boneless ham, really.
 
  • #309
We have pumpkin pie in the south. You don’t get any more southern than south AL and I just finished the last piece.
Yeah, just a generalization. There are always exceptions.
 
  • #310
I just meant, as an outsider, it's interesting to see everyone focused hard on how exactly to get it just the way you want it. Whereas, I don't think I know anyone who's ever cooked one. I certainly never have. I've roasted beef, lamb, chicken, pork, fish, and even duck, but never turkey.

I have eaten turkey at Christmas celebrations at my aunt's when I was a kid, but it was always bought precooked and sliced and served cold. It was never on the bone, just like a boneless ham, really.
speaking of turkey bone, there is the tradition of the wishbone we haven't even talked about yet! ;)
 
  • #311
One year I bought a 30 pound turkey, we never had enough stuffing and I was determined that I would cook enough stuffing that we wouldn’t run out.

The 30 pound turkey was so heavy and hard to handle that I decided it would be better to cook two 20 pound turkeys than one 30 pound.
I agree, there is never enough stuffing. My family loves stuffing.

To start the base for my stuffing, I put the turkey extras (neck, gizzard etc) in a saucepan with a couple of cups of water, S&P and slowly simmer it for a hour or two. My mom called it gizzard juice.

I mix all the stuffing ingredients and add some of the gizzard juice to moisten the stuffing. I stuff the bird as full as possible. I make so much stuffing that only about 1/3 makes it inside the bird.

I add a extra amount of gizzard juice to the remaining 2/3 of stuffing and put it into a turkey roasting bag and seal up the bag. I put the stuffing bag in a 9 X 13 pan and bake it for about a hour (or so) while I finish up the turkey.

The stuffing inside the turkey is always the best, but the additional stuffing is sure a crowd pleaser!

Hope everyone had a very Blessed and Happy Thanksgiving!
 
  • #312
I agree, there is never enough stuffing. My family loves stuffing.

To start the base for my stuffing, I put the turkey extras (neck, gizzard etc) in a saucepan with a couple of cups of water, S&P and slowly simmer it for a hour or two. My mom called it gizzard juice.

I mix all the stuffing ingredients and add some of the gizzard juice to moisten the stuffing. I stuff the bird as full as possible. I make so much stuffing that only about 1/3 makes it inside the bird.

I add a extra amount of gizzard juice to the remaining 2/3 of stuffing and put it into a turkey roasting bag and seal up the bag. I put the stuffing bag in a 9 X 13 pan and bake it for about a hour (or so) while I finish up the turkey.

The stuffing inside the turkey is always the best, but the additional stuffing is sure a crowd pleaser!

Hope everyone had a very Blessed and Happy Thanksgiving!
I had never thought about stuffing in a roasting bag. That must keep it moist. Thanks for thre idea.
 
  • #313
We have pumpkin pie in the south. You don’t get any more southern than south AL and I just finished the last piece.
Definitely pumpkin pie here. We do eat sweet potatoes, but when it comes to pie, we prefer the creamier texture of pumpkin.
But a lot of southerners do eat sweet potato pie. So IDK, guess it’s quite variable.
 
  • #314
DH promptly deboned the turkey, and I now have it in the instant pot turning into stock. I will need to go to the produce market tomorrow as my veggie drawer is empty except for one extra lemon. Maybe I can get DH to clean it while it is empty.
I'd love to know how you make your turkey stock.
 
  • #315
I'd love to know how you make your turkey stock.
I use an instant pot. Put the bones in along with 2 stalks of celery, 1 onion, 2 carrots, 1 clove of garlic. Veggies chopped into chunks. Add water to a bit under fill line, add 2 bayleaves, a few peppercorns and a couple of mustard seeds. Seal lid, cook on high for 35 minutes and let natural release for about 30 ins then unseal. Strain through a seive or cheesecloth. Freeze into smaller portionas if you use during winter or turn into turkey soup. I am making soup out of this batch. I will add diced celery, carrotts and probably a small pasta instead of potatoes, and will season to taste.
 
  • #316
The age old comparison….stuffing vs dressing. Here in the south dressing isn’t leftover stuffing. It’s cornbread based and baked in a pan. I’ve never had or made a stuffed bird. I’d try it if i were someplace it was being served.
IMO, stuffing also helps to keep the turkey moist. The stuffing I make is dried out bread cubes, gizzard juice, onions, celery, sage, S&P, eggs and LOTS of butter. The stuffing also adds seasonings to the turkey.

Win, Win!
 
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  • #317
IMO, stuffing also helps to keep the turkey moist. The stuffing I make is dried out bread cubes, gizzard juice, onions, celery, sage, S&P, eggs and LOTS of butter. The stuffing also adds seasonings to the turkey.

Win, Win!
Growing up, my aunt always cooked the Turkey.(1960s) she stuffed it with whole onions and celery sticks and rubbed it with butter, salt, and pepper, before wrapping it in pieces of an old white bed sheet And baking.
 
  • #318
Killarney Rose, why the bedsheet? That’s a new one on me. To keep it from browning too much before it’s done.
 
  • #319
I'm Canadian but here's my 2 cent take on Thanksgiving: I think turkey is traditional partly because it is game bird which are hunted at this time of year. It's also popular because you can buy a variety of sizes which makes it easy to feed everyone.

Personally, I make a small ham to go along with everything else on the table. Also because I like to use the juices from the ham (I baste it with butter and brown sugar) and add that to the gravy with the turkey drippings and add some red wine too. It is the most delicious gravy I have ever had. In fact I caught my partner trying to drink it :rolleyes:
 
  • #320
As an outsider - for obvious geographical reasons, Australians don't do thanksgiving - I'm kind of bemused by the obsession with turkey. It's not a massive thing out here? I greatly prefer chicken. And we don't do it for Christmas, either. I know it's common to do a roast of some kind, but it's just as common for all the meats to be cold, and served with a variety of salads. When it can be 40c on Christmas day with a total fire ban stopping you using the barbeque outside, it makes sense to eat ham and coleslaw rather than turning the oven on and heating up the house even more just to have hot meat and hot roast potatoes.
Thanksgiving is the US is usually the day of the year families make a real effort to be together, count our Blessings and share a meal. People travel from far and near to be together this day. They are the busiest days of the year for US airlines. If you are hosting that means you need to make a lot of food. I think the trend of serving turkey originally started as an economical one.

Even today, you can find frozen turkeys here for only several US $ per pound. Nice meats are easily $10-40+ per pound. Ground Beef (for hamburgers) runs about US $5 per pound.

We are also in different hemispheres. Thanksgiving here is the start of Winter. Christmas is definitely Winter!
 
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