shadowraiths
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Thank's for the link to the bones article, Jaiddie. It is a well-written, well thought out, piece, imho.
The bones have been a huge sticking point for me. In the context of planting evidence, the idea that they found her body, and possibly, cremated her, has never made sense. From not only the planting perspective but also from the theory that he burned her somewhere else and moved the bones there.
In fact, to my mind, this case stinks to high heaven with regard to the chain of evidence. Or rather, lack, thereof. So, for all we know, there were no bones in the burn pit to begin with, or for that matter, if bone fragments were present, they could have been from animals, such as deer bones, chicken bones, old steak bones. Who really knows?
And then there's the blood in Ms. Halbach's car. That could have easily been planted after the fact and once it was impounded. Moreover, do we even know that it was blood? After all, all they need do was to present Culhane with blood samples, while claiming they came from the car.
Yeah, I know, a stretch.
Then again, considering the MCSD had no problem withholding exculpating evidence. And no, not the call in 1995, rather the leather jacket in 1985, of which MCSD had lined up LEOs from their own department who were prepared to testify (read, lie) that SA, did, in fact, wear such a jacket... when in reality, he never wore much less owned such a jacket. (see Greisbach, Innocent Killer), I really wouldn't put it past them.
But back to the cremains. I've long wondered about that. For example, how could they be reduced to bits and pieces, yet they allegedly found enough undestroyed cremains to ID Ms. Halbach? And how did they manage to actually make a finding that she was shot? i've always questioned this. Moreover, the degree to which they were reduced to fragments, requires intense heat... heat that you could not get in an open fire pit in the fall, in Wisconsin, where it had allegedly been raining.
Now, expanding beyond the cremains, since this is the "planted evidence & framed" theory thread.
There are only two pieces of so-called pertinent evidence found in SA's residence and garage. The key, which mysteriously appeared, and the bullet fragment. A fragment which, allegedly only contained enough DNA for a single test, which they managed to botch, by contaminating it.
Otherwise put, I have long believed both the key and the bullet were planted. Importantly, both were found by individuals who were not only aware of the 1995 call that could have freed the man but also wrote up a report on that call nearly 10 years after the fact. In other words, these two men obviously had not a problem bending rules to fit theirs, as well as their bosses, agendas.
Moreover, not a single strand of hair, fingerprints, nada, was found in SA's residence. Nor was even a drop of her blood found in the garage. While the prosecutor claims they cleaned up the blood with bleach, then how did they manage to find deer's blood? And, oh, speaking of... could those bones in the pit have been deer bones? We don't know. After all, her cremains were never released to her family for burial... why is that?
But I digress. How was it the garage floor was covered with dust and oil after the fact? That is, they supposedly removed every trace of Ms. Halbach's DNA then what? Sprinkled dust and oil to make it look like it had never been cleaned up? Which brings me to the next point. The prosecutor claims SA & BD used sophisticated forensic countermeasures to destroy evidence.
And here's the but... the huge, huge but. The where I really balk at, but.
We are talking about two men with IQs in the high 60s to low 70s. This is not rocket science folks. In fact, far from it. Importantly, IQ is not linear. Or rather, both of these men are what would be referred to as "tail riders." For example, if you look at this chart, you'll see that on the high end, these men fall into the 2nd-ish percentile. That is, less than 2.3% of the population have IQs lower than SA & BD. And I'm being extremely generous here.
Now, to put this in perspective. The other "tail riders" are often referred to as geniuses. You know, Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking? Yeah, those. To qualify for mensa, for instance, your IQ must fall into the 98th percentile, and for Intertel, the 99th percentile. Or otherwise put, 98% and 99%, respectively, of the population will have a lower IQ than mensa and intertel folk.
Whereas, the rest... the majority of the population hovers around an IQ of 100, with a standard deviation of 15. Again, IQ is not linear. So, if you have an IQ of 100, approx 50% of the population has a lower IQ than you. Whereas, if you have an IQ of 115, it's 85%, and and IQ of 85 is 15%. See what I'm saying?
And yet, it is alleged these men are forensic geniuses? Or would that be idiot savants with a sadistic streak, perhaps? <sarcasm>Yeah, right.</sarcasm> Sorry, I just do not buy it. We're not talking about "rainman," here.
That being said, while I have long held SA is guilty, and that BD was used to bolster the prosecution's case against SA, I will admit, I am moving ever closer to the view that the man may very well be innocent. As for BD? I've long felt that, worst case, he saw something. And even then, if he did actually see something, he was in no way involved in helping to cover it up.
As for the "whodunnit"? Who really knows? At this point, I absolutely have someone in mind, as well as a scenario of what happened and why. Which is, by the way, probably totally and completely, wrong. Just more of a gut feeling along the lines of a frat party gone bad and largely based upon what was reported in the Milwaukee article, "Blood Simple."
Notably, it does not involve LEOs murdering Ms. Halbach. Though, it does involve them playing loose with the forensic evidence to frame a man whom they considered to be the county pariah.
Regardless of my "non-theory," in the end, I think what could really blow this thing up, is if they find out that the cremains aren't even Ms. Halbach's cremains. Moreso, if the cremains actually turn out to be animal, in nature. That, imho, could really turn everything on its head.
And, arguably, result in freeing both men.
Anyway, sorry for the novella. The above are just a few free-form thoughts that are short on facts and long on speculation.
The bones have been a huge sticking point for me. In the context of planting evidence, the idea that they found her body, and possibly, cremated her, has never made sense. From not only the planting perspective but also from the theory that he burned her somewhere else and moved the bones there.
In fact, to my mind, this case stinks to high heaven with regard to the chain of evidence. Or rather, lack, thereof. So, for all we know, there were no bones in the burn pit to begin with, or for that matter, if bone fragments were present, they could have been from animals, such as deer bones, chicken bones, old steak bones. Who really knows?
And then there's the blood in Ms. Halbach's car. That could have easily been planted after the fact and once it was impounded. Moreover, do we even know that it was blood? After all, all they need do was to present Culhane with blood samples, while claiming they came from the car.
Yeah, I know, a stretch.
Then again, considering the MCSD had no problem withholding exculpating evidence. And no, not the call in 1995, rather the leather jacket in 1985, of which MCSD had lined up LEOs from their own department who were prepared to testify (read, lie) that SA, did, in fact, wear such a jacket... when in reality, he never wore much less owned such a jacket. (see Greisbach, Innocent Killer), I really wouldn't put it past them.
But back to the cremains. I've long wondered about that. For example, how could they be reduced to bits and pieces, yet they allegedly found enough undestroyed cremains to ID Ms. Halbach? And how did they manage to actually make a finding that she was shot? i've always questioned this. Moreover, the degree to which they were reduced to fragments, requires intense heat... heat that you could not get in an open fire pit in the fall, in Wisconsin, where it had allegedly been raining.
Now, expanding beyond the cremains, since this is the "planted evidence & framed" theory thread.
There are only two pieces of so-called pertinent evidence found in SA's residence and garage. The key, which mysteriously appeared, and the bullet fragment. A fragment which, allegedly only contained enough DNA for a single test, which they managed to botch, by contaminating it.
Otherwise put, I have long believed both the key and the bullet were planted. Importantly, both were found by individuals who were not only aware of the 1995 call that could have freed the man but also wrote up a report on that call nearly 10 years after the fact. In other words, these two men obviously had not a problem bending rules to fit theirs, as well as their bosses, agendas.
Moreover, not a single strand of hair, fingerprints, nada, was found in SA's residence. Nor was even a drop of her blood found in the garage. While the prosecutor claims they cleaned up the blood with bleach, then how did they manage to find deer's blood? And, oh, speaking of... could those bones in the pit have been deer bones? We don't know. After all, her cremains were never released to her family for burial... why is that?
But I digress. How was it the garage floor was covered with dust and oil after the fact? That is, they supposedly removed every trace of Ms. Halbach's DNA then what? Sprinkled dust and oil to make it look like it had never been cleaned up? Which brings me to the next point. The prosecutor claims SA & BD used sophisticated forensic countermeasures to destroy evidence.
And here's the but... the huge, huge but. The where I really balk at, but.
We are talking about two men with IQs in the high 60s to low 70s. This is not rocket science folks. In fact, far from it. Importantly, IQ is not linear. Or rather, both of these men are what would be referred to as "tail riders." For example, if you look at this chart, you'll see that on the high end, these men fall into the 2nd-ish percentile. That is, less than 2.3% of the population have IQs lower than SA & BD. And I'm being extremely generous here.
Now, to put this in perspective. The other "tail riders" are often referred to as geniuses. You know, Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking? Yeah, those. To qualify for mensa, for instance, your IQ must fall into the 98th percentile, and for Intertel, the 99th percentile. Or otherwise put, 98% and 99%, respectively, of the population will have a lower IQ than mensa and intertel folk.
Whereas, the rest... the majority of the population hovers around an IQ of 100, with a standard deviation of 15. Again, IQ is not linear. So, if you have an IQ of 100, approx 50% of the population has a lower IQ than you. Whereas, if you have an IQ of 115, it's 85%, and and IQ of 85 is 15%. See what I'm saying?
And yet, it is alleged these men are forensic geniuses? Or would that be idiot savants with a sadistic streak, perhaps? <sarcasm>Yeah, right.</sarcasm> Sorry, I just do not buy it. We're not talking about "rainman," here.
That being said, while I have long held SA is guilty, and that BD was used to bolster the prosecution's case against SA, I will admit, I am moving ever closer to the view that the man may very well be innocent. As for BD? I've long felt that, worst case, he saw something. And even then, if he did actually see something, he was in no way involved in helping to cover it up.
As for the "whodunnit"? Who really knows? At this point, I absolutely have someone in mind, as well as a scenario of what happened and why. Which is, by the way, probably totally and completely, wrong. Just more of a gut feeling along the lines of a frat party gone bad and largely based upon what was reported in the Milwaukee article, "Blood Simple."
Notably, it does not involve LEOs murdering Ms. Halbach. Though, it does involve them playing loose with the forensic evidence to frame a man whom they considered to be the county pariah.
Regardless of my "non-theory," in the end, I think what could really blow this thing up, is if they find out that the cremains aren't even Ms. Halbach's cremains. Moreso, if the cremains actually turn out to be animal, in nature. That, imho, could really turn everything on its head.
And, arguably, result in freeing both men.
Anyway, sorry for the novella. The above are just a few free-form thoughts that are short on facts and long on speculation.
