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[butwhatif?]

'These results still do not rule out the remote possibility that an unusual variety of products or materials (not present in the trunk at the time of vechile discovery) may have had some contribution to the overall chemical signature.'

I was expecting it to convince me.:woohoo:...There was not one piece of CONCLUSIVE evidence, from what I'm reading.
No wonder the Anthonys arent convinced....I am seriously in shock. That report was not what I expected at all.
Theres gotta be more than that? Seriously!!!!
This case gets weirder and weirder by the minute. Is this weird?

 

[Broderick]

I think that maybe they have proof of who the "baby daddy" is...but they are not sharing it....lol

If Baden could infer this from this report, then it becomes clear why someone refused to take a DNA test.

 

[Marina2]

anaerobic decomposition=

think airtight container, possibly not completely airtight (trash bag, tied/plastic box), but not left in the open (air) to decompose. Trying not to get too graphic here.

From wikipedia:Fresh
The fresh stage of decomposition occurs during the first few days following death. There are no physical signs of decomposition during this time. However, homeostasis of the body has ceased, allowing cellular and soft tissue changes to occur because of the process of autolysis, the destruction of cells and organs due to an aseptic chemical process. At this point, the body enters algor mortis, the cooling of the body's temperature to that of its surroundings. When the body’s cells reach the final stage of autolysis, an anaerobic environment is created, that is, an environment wherein oxygen is not present. This allows the body’s normal bacteria to break down the remaining carbohydrates, proteins, and lipids. The products from the breakdown create acids, gases, and other products which cause volatile organic compounds (VOCs), and putrefactive effects. VOCs are produced during the early stages of human decomposition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decomposition

The forensic report is just stating why they came to the conclusion that the body was in the early stage of decomposition when it was in the trunk. It has nothing to do with what they body was in or the lack of oxygen in the trunk.

 

[Blink34]

wait a minute - didn't one of the early reports indicate a soil sample was found in the trunk?

yes'm

 

[AmyinTheHam]

I may be wrong but the way I read the report is that the decomp that is detected in the trunk is equivalent to a body in the 2.6th day of decomp, not that it was in there for 2.6 days. Doesn't that mean that it could have been somewhere else (backyard perhaps?) and then put in the car around 2.6 days after decomp started?

I agree with you. That is another possibility. But I do think this means that the body was in the trunk around 2.6 days after death. Not sure if it was there the entire time or not. I guess my post wasn't clear but yes I do agree with you.

 

[Capri]

See I read it as the amount of chemicals inducate that she was only dead 2.6days when the body was in the trunk. Again I have no clue, just saying how I read it.

Yes, Not when the lab got it (we know it was much later than that), but the body was at approx. 2.6 days of decomp in the trunk.

 

[Insomnia Momma]

Ok, My cousin is on the phone with me right now. He is in his last year of college for Fornsic Pathology. He's giving me the low-down. I'll post what he says here.

 

[Blink34]

If Baden could infer this from this report, then it becomes clear why someone refused to take a DNA test.

Who refused to take a DNA test?

 

[Lexington]

Yes... good theory, but (and take it for whats its worth in this case regarding whos truthful and not) but GA said CA was pressuring him to return to work.... so he couldn't have been there to do the cleaning?

Yes, in his video statement to LE he stated that he did go to work that day because CA insisted that he do so. Could that be because she wanted to "have at" the car herself and knew that he would not be agreeable to getting rid of evidence? I am sure that LE checked with his employer that he was, in fact, at work.

 

[elfie]

See I read it as the amount of chemicals inducate that she was only dead 2.6days when the body was in the trunk. Again I have no clue, just saying how I read it.

This was my interpretation as well. (Not 2.6 days before the trunk was tested.)

 

[believe09]

ok, so if the report says 2.6 days...this would mean that Caylee would have been gone on when? the 25th? 24th, 23rd, Deffinately not the 15th or 16th as MANY have stated here.

Am I wrong?

I was pondering this myself-it just means that she was in the trunk of the car for that time frame maybe-so let's make the evidence fit as it were- Caylee died 6/15 or 6/16 and Casey drove around with her in the trunk until it started to smell very strong. Then she started to play move the body until Caylee was finally buried at the airport. jmo.

 

[karen7868]

Who's darned shovel was that and where did it come from for testing.

Please forgive me if I'm way off base here (on lunch break at work and just hopping on board trying to catch up).

Wasn't there a red barn behind the Oviedo house? Could she have gotten a shovel out of there via five-finger discount since the house was apparently vacant?

TIA!

 

[sweetwater]

I wish they would have asked the tow manager, Simon, if the car was still in the same condition it was picked up in or if it appeared to have been cleaned. :waitasec:

There are several photos of the car, sitting in the Forensics Bay the day it was towed in for testing. Although the car had sat out for a least 2 weeks, Amscot, tow yard,... and who knows where before that, it is shiny, sparkly clean.
You don't think Cindy let that car sit dirty, do you? And where do you think her disclaimer came from- she threw out that LE hadn't seemed the least bit interested in the car the night of the 15th. That's Cindyspeak for, what, I did something wrong having my "OCD car cleaning" husband detail the car??? Caylee died and was left to decompose in the trunk.
:bang:There were maggots in the car.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

I wish they would have asked the tow manager, Simon, if the car was still in the same condition it was picked up in or if it appeared to have been cleaned. :waitasec:

I believe most tow yards take photographs of impounded autos to prove the reason for impounding it. If they did, it could show if the car had been washed or not.

 

[princess]

'These results still do not rule out the remote possibility that an unusual variety of products or materials (not present in the trunk at the time of vechile discovery) may have had some contribution to the overall chemical signature.


I respectfully dissagree...there is plenty of info to conclude that Caylee is no longer among us alive.

I don't need more...they have proved decomp plenty enough for me.

 

[Lanie]

See I read it as the amount of chemicals inducate that she was only dead 2.6days when the body was in the trunk. Again I have no clue, just saying how I read it.

I understand what you are saying. The report is factoring in the conditions inside the trunk of the car, the approximate temperature, etc, and stating the ratio of components found would be consistent with a body being in the trunk under those conditions for no more than 2.6 days.
Lanie

 

[Manny]

Well, LP has been a telling us for a looong time now that he knows who the father is. :waitasec: Just a reminder, folks.

How can they know who the father is without HIS DNA? Are you saying "it's all in the family" Can this case get any more soap opera???

 

[believe09]

How can they know who the father is without HIS DNA?

good question.

 

[Baznme]

I agree with you. That is another possibility. But I do think this means that the body was in the trunk around 2.6 days after death. Not sure if it was there the entire time or not. I guess my post wasn't clear but yes I do agree with you.

All it really means is the "debris" that they were able to use was estimated to have been put there within that timeframe after death. For all we know, she was put inside another container to prevent any more leakage thus containing any further contamination. Hard to say.

 

[elfie]

I was pondering this myself-it just means that she was in the trunk of the car for that time frame maybe-so let's make the evidence fit as it were- Caylee died 6/15 or 6/16 and Casey drove around with her in the trunk until it started to smell very strong. Then she started to play move the body until Caylee was finally buried at the airport. jmo.

That would be consistent with the neighbor's report of the car being backed up into the garage and her borrowing of the shovel.