Found: a tooth

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  • #21
raisincharlie said:
I agree, the defense team will have their red herring-but I fail to see any great significance if it is Michelle's tooth. We don't know where it was found, and we don't know if it was from this incident or perhaps she tripped and chipped a tooth on a dresser two months ago. The claim can be made that LE missed something but LE can always agree and say they probably could have found more evidence about the killer as well.

I am sorry a family member found it as well, however I also feel if the family can afford the lawyer retained in this case - they could have hired a professional to tend to this task. Why they would even want to attempt it themselves absolutely blows my mind. Sorry, to me that seems perverse as well as being an unhealthy thing to do.

yes...red herring for sure...if this case involves overwhelming circumstantial evidence, (which i think it will) the tooth isn't going to be a big problem, IMO.......it could be that most all of Michelle's teeth were knocked out/shattered...that would be in the ME's report for sure....another tooth of MY's found later wouldn't surprise me really, when i think about it......
 
  • #22
My son is a CSI in the Bay Area. He told me years ago that whenever there is a violent death, they always give the family a list of names of people to call for the cleaning.

The housekeeking service I use also has a Biohazards unit. They are called to many violent scenes and it requires special contamination care. He was even called on the scene after 9-11. He said it was horrific.

I cannot comprehend how a family memeber could clean up after something so gruesome.
 
  • #23
Floh said:
Found a tooth days after L.E. left?

Sources say during the clean-up of the murder scene members of Jason Young's family discovered a tooth in the bedroom where Michelle Young was killed by a blow to the head.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=local&id=4811361

oh come on. this is nonsense. what the heck were L.E. doing?

and whose tooth? and does it actually pertain to the case?

more questions. :(

at least we know family members have been in the house. at last we know that. and the family are doing the clean-up? how awful for them. :(


Meh...it's probably Michelle Youngs tooth.

"Pennica and others close to the investigation say the tooth is not a critical piece of evidence. Although it has not yet been tested they believe the tooth belonged to Michelle Young, not her killer.

"That tooth would have gone with the body to Chapel Hill for the autopsy and then it would have been buried with the body," Pennica says. "We would not have kept it as a piece of evidence," he continued
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He is correct. There is no evidentiary value to it if it's her tooth, other than it shows how violent the attack was. An autopsy documents all injuries, including how many teeth were knocked out.

Therefore, I'm not sure this is a big deal you seem to think it is.

If it is someone elses tooth, then we have another situation.
THAT would be a big deal.
 
  • #24
Floh said:
My dream scenario is Michelle fought back so vigorously she knocked the tooth out of the assailant's head and it will nail him/her to buggery! :behindbar

my lesser thoughts are it's a tooth tucked away saved by Michelle from Cassidy for the tooth fairy - but then again, i have no idea at what age babes start losing their first teeth.
Floh,

Children lose their teeth starting at age 5. Also, if it is the perps tooth, don't you think if it is JY's they would notice he had a tooth missing? Another thought is if it was MY's tooth they would notice that at autopsy. I wonder where the heck this tooth came from.
 
  • #25
i just thought of something...what if that poor old dog was kicked in the face & HE lost a tooth????....wouldn't one recognize a dogs tooth being diff from a 'human's tooth though....?

ETA....nevermind!!!!...just read in bold letters below that LE thinks it was Michelles....
 
  • #26
Evelyn, do you think it kind of odd they reported about this when there has been almost nothing given out in the case?
 
  • #27
Sniffy38 said:
My son is a CSI in the Bay Area. He told me years ago that whenever there is a violent death, they always give the family a list of names of people to call for the cleaning.

The housekeeking service I use also has a Biohazards unit. They are called to many violent scenes and it requires special contamination care. He was even called on the scene after 9-11. He said it was horrific.

I cannot comprehend how a family memeber could clean up after something so gruesome.

me either...seems almost 'crazy' to me....if it's someone that died of a heart attack, some kind of illness, etc....ok, the family goes over, cleans up, goes through things, & what not.....but a family member 'cleaning up' after a loved one's been bludgeoned to death...(shakes head)
...can not comprehend either....
 
  • #28
I don't think Michelle's family would have any legal right to be in that house right now.
 
  • #29
scandi said:
Evelyn, do you think it kind of odd they reported about this when there has been almost nothing given out in the case?


I really cannot tell from reading the article who went to the media with this information.

My SPECULATION is that JY's attorney dropped this little bit of info into the ear of some reporter they know. These are experienced defense attorneys who are use to the PR game in high profile cases.
We can predict the spin already.
"What else did they miss!!" "They did not do their jobs properly."

Does this mean they all know JY's arrest is coming and they are already starting the media offense?

Possible.


Maybe I'm reading too much into it....I just do not know at this point.
My gut tells me this info was leaked to embarrass the CSI/LE.

JMO...of course. :)
 
  • #30
Great point Jilly! Only if and when he is convicted. A+ for you Jilly

Scandi
 
  • #31
scandi said:
Evelyn, do you think it kind of odd they reported about this when there has been almost nothing given out in the case?
Scandi,

I'm going to jump in here for a quick thought. Going back to my conversation with JTF - she made it quite plain to me that she will devote whatever energy necessary to confront the local media over the frenzy, and her claim to correct mistruths. Given that thought, and not being mean spirited in reality, I have no doubt this information would come out. Either LE admits it or IMO the family would have run with it - straight to the press, just to point a finger. My only basis for this opinion is a direct result of direct conversation with JTF. Sorry if this sounds bad but I have reason to think the way I do. JMO
 
  • #32
Thanks Evelyn and I bet you are right on!

I had an Auntie Evelyn. You don't hear the name very often, but have always loved it.

Scandii
 
  • #33
scandi said:
Thanks Evelyn and I bet you are right on!

I had an Auntie Evelyn. You don't hear the name very often, but have always loved it.

Scandii

Thanks! :)
 
  • #34
Thanks and yes, I understand Charlie.
 
  • #35
scandi said:
Thanks Evelyn and I bet you are right on!

I had an Auntie Evelyn. You don't hear the name very often, but have always loved it.

Scandii
My grandmother's name was Evelyn :( She was murdered 10 years ago. Her name was actually Maude Evelyn but she never admitted to the Maude part LOL

My cousin named her daughter Evelyn Rose after both grandmothers.
 
  • #36
Oh, I'm sorry she was murdered as it is such a terribly way to go. But I'm glad your cousin gave her that name. It is really a very pretty name -

Evelyn Rose



Scandi
 
  • #37
Topsail Girl said:
My grandmother's name was Evelyn :( She was murdered 10 years ago. Her name was actually Maude Evelyn but she never admitted to the Maude part LOL

My cousin named her daughter Evelyn Rose after both grandmothers.

oh, i like the name Maude:)

there was a very famous model named Maude, but i just went blank...??..

plus one of my all time favorite movies is "Harold & Maude"..
 
  • #38
scandi said:
Great point Jilly! Only if and when he is convicted. A+ for you Jilly

Scandi

Awwww shucks Scandi! :blushing: Just trying to keep up with the rest of you smarties!
 
  • #39
raisincharlie said:
Scandi,

I'm going to jump in here for a quick thought. Going back to my conversation with JTF - she made it quite plain to me that she will devote whatever energy necessary to confront the local media over the frenzy, and her claim to correct mistruths. Given that thought, and not being mean spirited in reality, I have no doubt this information would come out. Either LE admits it or IMO the family would have run with it - straight to the press, just to point a finger. My only basis for this opinion is a direct result of direct conversation with JTF. Sorry if this sounds bad but I have reason to think the way I do. JMO

exactly....the article even states as much...

http://www.wral.com/news/10435063/detail.html

The discovery has led Young's family members to question the completeness of the investigation, sources close to the case said.
Young's husband, Jason Young, has not commented about the case, and family members there refused to comment when WRAL went to his sister's home in Aberdeen on Thursday.

Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison said Thursday that he has complete confidence in the CCBI's work on the case.

Meanwhile, investigators briefed the Wake County District Attorney's Office on the case Thursday.


notice the last sentence...hmmm
 
  • #40
Hey Jilly, I always read every post you write. Sometimes you just hit that nail on the head wheras I sometimes go round and round to try to get a point across! :rolleyes:


Scandi
 
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