Found: a tooth

[Samiya]

Hey I'd buy it Scandi. You do have a good mind

Finger Licking Good. lol

Oh and I'd like it autographed please

 

[Samiya]

Maybe he won't talk to LE because he's missing a tooth.

:laugh: :laugh: :hand: :laugh: :laugh: :doh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :silenced:

 

[raisincharlie]

not at all--- I am telling ya--- I stay quiet for the most part around here, cause....it could backfire on me!!! Just like the post scandi made where she "told" the story of JY leaving the scence-- it was fabulous, but when I read my response, it almost sounds sarcastic--- and that is not what it was meant to be at all--- her wording was like a novel..... but my response didnt go the way i meant it to!! point I was trying to make is I will shut up now :silenced: :silenced: :silenced:

I was just teasing you ! Honest. Most of us are not as gifted as Scandi in that we can get our point across in the written word without it being perhaps misunderstood. Part of the challenge to a written forum is trying to figure how to write in a way that is as clear as if standing together talking. All I can say is thankfully there are those little emoticons or most of the time I would be in big trouble!

Don't be quiet, your thoughts are important ! What you say could well help someone understand or get them to thinking - that's a good thing. I can't speak for anyone else but I can tell you that I often get too one tracked. I always appreciate it when someone throws out something I missed or didn't think of or wouldn't allow myself to think of. So come on, don't be shy - help us out here.

 

[Bee Charmer]

Maybe he won't talk to LE because he's missing a tooth.

Very witty!!! :clap:

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Good Morning,

Two thoughts so far today. In yesterdays link about finding the tooth one spokesman stated the tooth was very small. So I don't think it was the whole tooth if they thought it was Michelles. It was probably a chip off of one of her teeth.

Scandi

Hi scandi 'n all (thanks everyone for the links - great thoughts...). Lol, scandi, read your post and that statement got me to immediately fast forward to trial:

"Do you swear to tell the tooth, the whole tooth and nuttin but the tooth?"

Hmmm. A tooth left behind. I agree with Evelyn, this may very well be used to get a handle on PR. Neverthless, it's not as if a hair was overlooked. This was a tooth. Rage, anger, determination spring to mind! Aside from the fact that one can only imagine the horrific and clearly repeated force Michelle took for that tooth to fly, we're left with a closer understanding of the officer's statement that this was a horrific crime scene.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

I can't see them do the cleaning either. Le has names of cleaning services that do that type of thing. I do wonder if Jason was at the house when the tooth was found. It sounds like he will stay at the house. I remember that movie where this dentist killed his wife, I think with a barbell and it was a bloody scene in the master bedroom. His parents spent the night there after it was cleaned up and they turned off the lights and were in shock because the could see all the blood on the walls and floor from the luminol they used.

Hi packerdog. I remember that - wasn't there a movie about this crime? :doh: Can't get my brain to think hard enough! That exact scene is what I remember so clesrly - the green luminol on the walls and the husband's parents seeing it. In fact, didn't they change their opinion of his involvment after that?

Fran: good point about not talking - and when they do, it's about a mistake LE made (if it's true JY's family found the tooth, that is). Well, I've been away from forum 2 days and have returned STILL believing JY's involved!

Hey, less0305! Long time ... Lol - :laugh: :laugh: laugh:
didn't talk to LE cos he was missin a tooth ... !

 

[dotcom]

Maybe that perp took the tooth after the murder and preserved it for a much later date . . . a little insurance, in case things didn't go as planned . . . probably thought this would throw some mud in the water if the investigation got a little too close!

 

[Taximom]

Hi scandi 'n all (thanks everyone for the links - great thoughts...). Lol, scandi, read your post and that statement got me to immediately fast forward to trial:

"Do you swear to tell the tooth, the whole tooth and nuttin but the tooth?"

Hmmm. A tooth left behind. I agree with Evelyn, this may very well be used to get a handle on PR. Neverthless, it's not as if a hair was overlooked. This was a tooth. Rage, anger, determination spring to mind! Aside from the fact that one can only imagine the horrific and clearly repeated force Michelle took for that tooth to fly, we're left with a closer understanding of the officer's statement that this was a horrific crime scene.

Ohhh, PSA. You and Scandi got me thinking

"If the tooth don't fit, you must acquit!"

chicken: running)

 

[raisincharlie]

Maybe that perp took the tooth after the murder and preserved it for a much later date . . . a little insurance, in case things didn't go as planned . . . probably thought this would throw some mud in the water if the investigation got a little too close!

Kind of like getting a receipt at a boat dock or a receipt for a hocked watch ? Stranger things have happened - entirely possible - good thought !

ETA - it seems to have worked, many are wondering how LE could have missed it.

 

[strach304]

:laugh: [QUOTE=PolkSaladAnnie

"Do you swear to tell the tooth, the whole tooth and nuttin but the tooth?

I'm in agreement with everyone else about interviewing Jason or should say not interviewing him. It's like this, should there be a trial defense will jump all over the tooth oversight and even go as far to accuse LE of targeting Jason and noone else but he chooses not to help by identifying possible missing items, etc. They sure went to LE and the media real fast on the tooth. If I were a juror I'd be very bothered about that. Of course there may be other factors at play that we don't know about so this is just my opinion on what we know so far.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

:laugh:

"If the tooth don't fit, you must acquit!"

chicken: running)

Heh ... if Geragos was handling this, he'd have said:

MISTRIAL!!! It was a blue-tooth!

(and I'm delighted Scott misses these techno cell-phone gadgets, lol)

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

:laugh:

Yes, I'd be bothered, too, strach. Until, that is, the prosecution show the court the velocity and viciousness of the blows ... and HOW many OTHER teeth were knocked out ... and that a few were found, one could easily have got lodged under a piece of carpet. .... OR ... It remained in the murder weapon and before JY got rid of it ... on one of his return trips home, he planted it.

That's why LE photograph and peg EVERY SINGLE SPEC of evidence - pick it up with gloves and bag it. Did JY's family do this? We don't and won't know right now. Nevertheless, this may have been overlooked and agreed: ERROR by LE.

If it was found in the room, it should not have been picked up and handed to LE. ERROR by family.

Equalizer!!

JY invested a fortune in Smith: should have called him in PLUS LE and photographed it in the usual way. We'd need to know if this happened 'procedurally correct', so to speak.

O/T !!! OMG!!! SA just won the Rugby 7's! minutes ago!! :woohoo:

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Kind of like getting a receipt at a boat dock or a receipt for a hocked watch ? Stranger things have happened - entirely possible - good thought !

ETA - it seems to have worked, many are wondering how LE could have missed it.

Hey charlie. How y'doing?

 

[close_enough]

you can bet that this tooth is NOT JY's.....it wouldn't have been 'found' by his family if it were.....JMO

"if the tooth don't fit, you must acquit!"......very funny, TM..lol

 

[packerdog]

I would think that they would replace the pad and carpet instead of having it cleaned. Blood would have soaked into the plywood flooring below the pad even. So did his sister find the tooth before it was cleaned? She would have had to if it was replaced. Were they just standing there looking at the bloody crime scene and the sisters says look , I just found a piece of a tooth? I just can't imagine them even looking at it. I wonder if Jason was there at the time. I could never see that bedroom the way it was after the murder of a loved one.

 

[scandi]

Good Morning Everyone,

Having slept while I was thinking about the tooth , I've got this feeling that 'small' tooth, or piece of tooth that at CTV they say was found under the bed {acc to CC show}, belonged to the dog.

One of the insiders posted the dog had a sore side and side of the head. We don't know if that is truely the case, but it sure goes along with the finding of a tooth. And finding it under the bed where a dog might go to spit it out makes sense too.

If you had a piece of broken human tooth would it look like a piece of dog tooth? I know we have many pet experts here, and they might know.

Scandi

PS: Sorry as I posted this somewhere here last night but don't know exactly where!

PSS: Missed you yesterday Annie - thought you'd left for England.

 

[strach304]

I would think that they would replace the pad and carpet instead of having it cleaned. Blood would have soaked into the plywood flooring below the pad even. So did his sister find the tooth before it was cleaned? She would have had to if it was replaced. Were they just standing there looking at the bloody crime scene and the sisters says look , I just found a piece of a tooth? I just can't imagine them even looking at it. I wonder if Jason was there at the time. I could never see that bedroom the way it was after the murder of a loved one.

It was found under the bed which makes it all the more absurd imo. What was she looking for under the bed or whatever she was doing?

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

It was found under the bed which makes it all the more absurd imo. What was she looking for under the bed or whatever she was doing?

strach, with such a FORCEFUL blow - teeth have been known 'to go flying'... Is it possible one tooth ricocheted off the waal, a bed post .. etc?

Think of when us gals lose a pierced-aearring stud ... they bounce into the most inconceivable places.

Just thinking along with your thoughts ...

 

[scandi]

I think the first thing they would do in attacking the clean-up job would be to move any furniture away from the area where Michelle was found. That is where the concentration of blood was that might need a first initial cleaning or soaking before they could shampoo.

So having done that, moving the bed, they could have seen an outline made by blood and blood spatter where the bed had been exactly before it was moved. That would be how his sister knew the tooth would have been under and not to the side of the bed.

I'm just wondering if it were Michelle's, how would it get under the bed? I can see the dog going somewhere private to throw up or spit it out like under the bed. The only way it could get under there if it was Michelle's would be if it were kicked under the bed, right? That doesn't sound too plausible to me.

They said they thought it was hers so it probably was. For them to make a subjective comment like that is unusual unless they knew, right? How did it end up under the bed? Would CCSI have moved the bed?

Scandi

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

scandi, hon , this may sound gory - but I am imagining the swing of a golfer and the tooth being the ball on the 'tee'.

Visualize the swing, and the power behid the swing - then the connection with the ball. How often have we see the 'tee' fly off in the wake of the swing? That's how I picture this: An almight forceful blow that connects, cracks or breaks the jawline and bludgeons the mouth ... for teeth to 'FLY' - the victim's head would not have been face down.

There had to be 'space' that allowed the victim to move in tandem with the natural energy-flow of the swing. Just as sweat 'flies' on slo-mo in a bozing match - so we have to imagine the teetch flying from the blunt force trauma.

The perp did not want MY to survive and she was cornered, in her bed, as she slept...

May have lifeted her head and the next blow followed.

Just my views on all of this ...