Found Deceased France - Émile Soleil, 2, outside grandparent’s house, Le Vernet, Alpes-de-Haute-Provence, 8 July 2023 *arrest* #2

[LittleSeaTree]

French Documentary.
Jul 1, 2025

Oh, that face

 

[Mauig’ma]

Oh, that face

Can someone translate to English the highlights please

 

[Rikissa]

Can someone translate to English the highlights please

If it's my post, here's the translation into English by Google Translate:

Mort d’Emile : après des mois de silence, ses grands-parents reviennent sur les lieux du drame

Après plusieurs mois d'absence, les grands-parents d'Emile Soleil ont été vu dans le Haut-Vernet, accompagnés de leurs avocats. Cette visite avait un but bien précis.

www-closermag-fr.translate.goog

The other two are already translated through Google translate, even if the look to be in French, if you click on the links they will take you to the articles in English.

If you use Google as your web browser you can find Google Translate in the Google Apps dotted square up in the right-hand corner on the Google start page.

 

[Bodhi]

A little bit of information about the case from French newspapers, articles are translated into English by Google Translate. The grandparents have returned to the village, and are trying to gather new information.

https://www.closermag.fr/vecu/mort-demile-apres-des-mois-de-silence-ses-grands-parents-reviennent-sur-les-lieux-du-drame-3592442

https://www-lefigaro-fr.translate.goog/faits-divers/mort-du-petit-emile-huit-mois-apres-leur-garde-a-vue-les-proches-du-garconnet-de-retour-au-vernet-pour-mener-l-enquete-20251110?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sv&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Mort d’Émile : de nouveaux éléments recueillis par les grands-parents et leurs avocats au Haut-Vernet

L’enquête sur la disparition d’Émile Soleil au Haut-Vernet (Alpes-de-Haute-Provence) prend un nouveau tournant. Les grands-parents, secondés de leurs avocats, ont mené une reconstitution minutieuse sur place. De...

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The Vendovini family did not stay at their summer home this year. According to the article, this was the first time they'd been to Haut-Vernet since the grandparents and two adult children were taken into custody in March, interrogated, and then released.

Didn't the family vacation in Haut-Vernet in the summer of 2024? That was after Emile's remains had been discovered. Was this the first summer they didn't spend the entire summer there or even a long weekend? That would be a sea change for the family.

Another aspect of the recent visit intrigued me. The article states the grandparents were accompanied by 2 adult children and attorneys. It doesn't specify if the two young adults were the same two detained and interrogated at the same time as their parents. But it seems likely because attorneys rounded out the group. The group walked the village, stopping at certain spots.

What prompted the visit? What were they so interested in seeing in person again?

I hope the trip to Haut-Vernet indicates movement in the case. The makeup of the group is telling, as is what the group did in Haut-Vernet IMO. The participation of criminal defense attorneys and the presence of two adult children leads me to believe there's progress in the criminal case. MOO. The group's purposeful walk around the location where Emile was last seen indicates whatever theories or evidence they were evaluating inculpates them rather than exonerating them. In my opinion, the composition of the group and the focused actions reported in the article indicate they expect to be charged in Emile's disappearance and death in the near future. Again, all MOO.

https://www.closermag.fr/vecu/mort-...nts-reviennent-sur-les-lieux-du-drame-3592442

 

[Mauig’ma]

If it's my post, here's the translation into English by Google Translate:

Mort d’Emile : après des mois de silence, ses grands-parents reviennent sur les lieux du drame

Après plusieurs mois d'absence, les grands-parents d'Emile Soleil ont été vu dans le Haut-Vernet, accompagnés de leurs avocats. Cette visite avait un but bien précis.

www-closermag-fr.translate.goog

The other two are already translated through Google translate, even if the look to be in French, if you click on the links they will take you to the articles in English.

If you use Google as your web browser you can find Google Translate in the Google Apps dotted square up in the right-hand corner on the Google start page.

Thank you

 

[FromGermany1]

The detention of Emile's family members went " all the way ." For the former magistrate, this almost completely rules out that hypothesis . " Either they are very strong psychologically (when dealing with the police), or they are completely innocent ," he concluded.

Emile, mort d’une “correction trop sévère” de son grand-père ? Un spécialiste remet l’hypothèse sur la table

Lundi 9 juin 2025, Jacques Dallest s’est exprimé dans les colonnes de La Provence. L’ancien magistrat a donné son avis sur l’implication possible du grand-père d’Emile dans sa mort.

www-closermag-fr.translate.goog

English by Google

 

[Skigh]

Twist in death of Emile as grandparents, aunt and uncle are questioned

Emile's grandparents, Philippe and Anne Vedovini, and two of their children, Maximin and Marthe Vedovini spoke to the investigating judges of the criminal division of Aix-en-Provence on Tuesday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[FromGermany1]

Twist in death of Emile as grandparents, aunt and uncle are questioned

Emile's grandparents, Philippe and Anne Vedovini, and two of their children, Maximin and Marthe Vedovini spoke to the investigating judges of the criminal division of Aix-en-Provence on Tuesday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Father Gilliot had frequently expressed his emotional angst during the saga.

The priest was once very close to Emile's grandparents, along with two of their 10 adult children.
-.-.-
Why these two children in particular and not the other eight or at least some of them? Was a sin covered up with the help of the priest? <modsnip: Not seeing anything to support this particular speculation>

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2001953773384597690

 

[Skigh]

For those without X.

Horrific cause of death for Emile Soleil is revealed

A new report has now revealed disturbing details about Emile Soleil's cause of death and how his body was stored.

www.dailymail.co.uk

According to Le Parisien, analysis of the bones has now revealed an injury on the cheekbone area, next to the right zygomatic bone.

The new report's leading hypothesis is that the lesion occurred from a deliberate blow causing 'violent facial trauma,' potentially inflicted using an object.

In addition, pollen and insect examinations revealed that the child's body had been kept 'for many months in an enclosed space, sheltered from the elements, but not very airtight'.

Places fitting this description could include a barn, stable or a similar agricultural setting.

The yellow t-shirt Emile had been wearing when he disappeared showed no signs of organic decomposition, and only pollen found in the Haut-Vernon area was detected.

This may suggest that the toddler's body was undressed very soon after his death.

Detectives had previously said they believed the remains of Emile were likely preserved in a protected, almost sterile environment like a freezer before being moved and found.

The new report comes as Emile's grandparents, aunt and uncle have been questioned for the first time since he vanished.

 

[iamshadow21]

For those without an X.

Horrific cause of death for Emile Soleil is revealed

A new report has now revealed disturbing details about Emile Soleil's cause of death and how his body was stored.

www.dailymail.co.uk

According to Le Parisien, analysis of the bones has now revealed an injury on the cheekbone area, next to the right zygomatic bone.

The new report's leading hypothesis is that the lesion occurred from a deliberate blow causing 'violent facial trauma,' potentially inflicted using an object.

In addition, pollen and insect examinations revealed that the child's body had been kept 'for many months in an enclosed space, sheltered from the elements, but not very airtight'.

Places fitting this description could include a barn, stable or a similar agricultural setting.

The yellow t-shirt Emile had been wearing when he disappeared showed no signs of organic decomposition, and only pollen found in the Haut-Vernon area was detected.

This may suggest that the toddler's body was undressed very soon after his death.

Detectives had previously said they believed the remains of Emile were likely preserved in a protected, almost sterile environment like a freezer before being moved and found.

The new report comes as Emile's grandparents, aunt and uncle have been questioned for the first time since he disappeared.

Sounds like a pretty classic child abuse death injury. Beating tends to be a leading cause of death in toddler and infant homicide, just from the cases I've followed.

MOO

 

[Rikissa]

Father Gilliot had frequently expressed his emotional angst during the saga.

The priest was once very close to Emile's grandparents, along with two of their 10 adult children.
-.-.-
Why these two children in particular and not the other eight or at least some of them? Was a sin covered up with the help of the priest? <modsnip: Not seeing anything to support this particular speculation>

I would guess he'd been closest to the two oldest children in the family, as the eight siblings that were with the grandparents when Emile disappeared was between 7 and 18. Father Gilliot was 85 when he died, and had worked as a university professor as well as a priest. I think that he had baptised Emile indicates that he was close to the mother.

 

[dotr]

19 December 2025

Horrific cause of death for Emile Soleil is revealed

A new report has now revealed disturbing details about Emile Soleil's cause of death and how his body was stored.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Rikissa]

Today, 22 December, the investigators in the case returned for the second time in one week to the village where Émile went missing. They seized "a large object" today.

Article translated from French to English by Google Translate:

Alpes-de-Haute-Provence. Mort du petit Émile : un « objet volumineux » saisi par les enquêteurs

Selon BFM TV, les enquêteurs sont retournés à deux reprises en une semaine dans la commune du Haut-Vernet où le petit garçon avait disparu en juillet 2023.

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An article about the "7 to 10 minutes" window of time the day he went missing:
Article translated from French to English by Google Translate:

Disparition du petit Emile : ce créneau de “7 à 10 minutes” avant sa mort intrigue, “Le grand-père, l'oncle et la tante ont rebroussé chemin”

Après la disparition du petit Emile, ce trajet effectué par le grand-père, l'oncle et la tante du petit garçon laisse perplexes les enquêteurs.

www-mariefrance-fr.translate.goog

 

[miss marble]

From the article above, some interesting new information about the last witness statement :-

On December 17, 2025, Le Parisien revisited the case of little Emile's death and the testimony of witness number 1. This man, in his sixties, appears to be the last known person to have seen little Emile in the minutes preceding his disappearance . According to statements he made to the gendarmes of the Marseille research section (Bouches-du-Rhône), he remembers watching the child walking downhill, taking a steep alley that passes in front of his home.

This witness also claims to have seen, within a very short period of a few minutes, Philippe Vedovini , the grandfather, Maximin, the uncle , and Marthe, the aunt of the boy, walking down the same street . Shortly afterwards, according to his account, he saw them turn back, going up the alley. These chronological details are invaluable to investigators. This testimony led them to re-interview Emile's family members.

 

[su5ie]

I hope little emile gets the justice he deserves.

This case gives me hope on other cases where it would seem there is no direction .

 

[Dotta]

I don't understand

A heavy object was found???

Does it mean the alleged perp/s left the alleged murder weapon in plain sight?

And after so much time?
I would think such an object was hidden/disposed of.

And if the boy was seen "going downhill",
it means he indeed left the property, no?

Terrible case.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

I don't understand

A "heavy object" found??

Does it mean the alleged perp/s left the alleged murder weapon in plain sight?

And after so much time?
I would think such an object was hidden/disposed of.

And if the boy was seen "going downhill",
it means he indeed left the property, no?

Terrible case.

JMO

'Heavy object'* lends itself to blunt force. But it wouldn't have to be the case that an object was lifted to become a weapon. In the reverse, a child could be lifted. Perhaps it's such a heavy object* that it was practically immovable. Such as a statue, gargoyle, bird bath...

JMO

ETA "large object"

 

[twomoresmores]

From the article above, some interesting new information about the last witness statement :-

On December 17, 2025, Le Parisien revisited the case of little Emile's death and the testimony of witness number 1. This man, in his sixties, appears to be the last known person to have seen little Emile in the minutes preceding his disappearance . According to statements he made to the gendarmes of the Marseille research section (Bouches-du-Rhône), he remembers watching the child walking downhill, taking a steep alley that passes in front of his home.

This witness also claims to have seen, within a very short period of a few minutes, Philippe Vedovini , the grandfather, Maximin, the uncle , and Marthe, the aunt of the boy, walking down the same street . Shortly afterwards, according to his account, he saw them turn back, going up the alley. These chronological details are invaluable to investigators. This testimony led them to re-interview Emile's family members.

Does anyone have a map of the village that shows this area and alley?

 

[Dotta]

'Heavy object' lends itself to blunt force. But it wouldn't have to be the case that an object was lifted to become a weapon. In the reverse, a child could be lifted. Perhaps it's such a heavy object that it was practically immovable. Such as a statue, gargoyle, bird bath...

JMO

Quote from post above by @Rikissa

"They seized 'a large object' today."

What exactly does it mean?