France - 18 y/o American suspected of throwing her newborn baby out of a hotel window in Paris - 24 Feb 25

[Gemmie]

I predict she will not be sentenced to prison, due to her age and some other factors. Did no one in her life realize she was pregnant? Did every student have their own hotel room? No one suspected anything while she had a secret pregnancy and labored alone?

An article posted above says "Investigators believe she was suffering from ‘pregnancy denial’". I don't think they'd just come up with that on their own so perhaps she said something that led them to that conclusion.

So if that was true, she wasn't telling anyone she was pregnant, and likely no one said anything to her about it. If they did, it sounds like she'd have just said "No" and/or "I've just been gaining some weight but definitely not pregnant". JMO!

American tourist who gave birth in a Paris hotel room is identified

The American tourist accused of killing her newborn baby by tossing it out of a Paris hotel window can be revealed as Mia McQuillin from Bend, Oregon.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Aycheff]

If it was a literal newborn, doesn't that make the baby French? That's generally how it works, right?

MOO

USA, Canada, and some South American countries offer birthright citizenship. Most countries require at least one parent to be a citizen, in order for a baby to receive citizenship. Most of the world does not have birthright citizenship.

 

[Sarahlou]

The U.S. student charged with 'child homicide' after allegedly throwing her baby out of a Paris hotel window has been moved to a secure psychiatric unit.

Mia McQuillin, 18, was on Thursday out of formal police custody and in a specialist care unit.

Tourist who 'threw baby from hotel window' moved to psychiatric unit

She was arrested in her second floor room at the Ibis Styles Hotel in the French capital's 20th arrondissement after a newborn was found on the street

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Rikissa]

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[Swansee]

The DM article doesn't mention it, but the psychiatric unit she's in is a police controlled psychiatric infirmary (I3P) for people "who pose a danger to public safety".
Translated from:

Paris : la jeune femme, qui a jeté son nouveau-né d’une fenêtre, conduite à l’infirmerie psychiatrique après sa garde à vue

Lundi, une jeune étudiante américaine de 18 ans, soupçonné d’avoir jeté son bébé de la fenêtre de sa chambre d’hôtel dans le XXe arrondissem

www.leparisien.fr

 

[Missing Susan]

Well I am pretty sure France has jurisdiction over this.

Is the FBI involvement in this case that took place in the sovereign country of Mexico evidence that more than one country might have jurisdiction in some circumstances depending upon the citizenship status of suspects or victims?

Thread 'Mexico - Shanquella Robinson, 25, American, Beaten to death in apparent “femicide”, San Jose del Cabo, 28 Oct 2022'

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Mexico investigates American woman's death as femicide, FBI opens probe.​

The FBI has opened a probe into the recent death of an American woman vacationing in Mexico, which is also being investigated by Mexican authorities as a femicide.

Shanquella Robinson, 25, of Charlotte, North Carolina, went to San Jose del Cabo, a resort city on the southern tip of Mexico's Baja California peninsula, with six friends on Oct. 28. They stayed at a rental villa in Fundadores, an exclusive gated community with vacation homes and a private beach club, Robinson's parents told...

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[Rikissa]

Is the FBI involvement in this case that took place in the sovereign country of Mexico evidence that more than one country might have jurisdiction in some circumstances depending upon the citizenship status of suspects or victims?

Hadn't the persons involved in that case gone back to the US, and never been arrested while still in Mexico?
In this case with the baby, the crime happened in France, and the woman was arrested while still in France, why would the FBI need to get involved?

 

[PrairieWind]

Is the FBI involvement in this case that took place in the sovereign country of Mexico evidence that more than one country might have jurisdiction in some circumstances depending upon the citizenship status of suspects or victims?

Thread 'Mexico - Shanquella Robinson, 25, American, Beaten to death in apparent “femicide”, San Jose del Cabo, 28 Oct 2022'

Nov 19, 2022

Mexico investigates American woman's death as femicide, FBI opens probe.​

The FBI has opened a probe into the recent death of an American woman vacationing in Mexico, which is also being investigated by Mexican authorities as a femicide.

Shanquella Robinson, 25, of Charlotte, North Carolina, went to San Jose del Cabo, a resort city on the southern tip of Mexico's Baja California peninsula, with six friends on Oct. 28. They stayed at a rental villa in Fundadores, an exclusive gated community with vacation homes and a private beach club, Robinson's parents told...

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The FBI can look into homicides of US citizens by US citizens in another country in certain situations, ie the local authorities are not. And Mexico wasn't doing much. But regardless, the FBI probe didn't result in any charges, even though it abundantly clear a crime was committed. In this case, the French authorities are perfectly capable of handling this case and seem to be on it.

 

[MizStery]

The following:

Infirmerie psychiatrique de la préfecture de police -is the Paris Mental Facility where she is being held. Can anyone translate?​

Infirmerie psychiatrique de la préfecture de police — Wikipédia​

Unfortunately I cannot find an English translation.

psychiatric unit she's in is a police controlled psychiatric infirmary (I3P) for people "who pose a danger to public safety".

In addition according to this article

American tourist accused of fatally throwing newborn out Paris hotel window is identified as student on gap year: report​

American tourist accused of fatally throwing newborn out Paris hotel window is identified as student on gap year: report
<sniped for emphasis> Authorities are investigating whether McQuillin, who grew up in a $1 million bungalow in Bend, was suffering a case of “denial of pregnancy” and was unaware she was pregnant or not able to accept she was pregnant when she allegedly tossed the infant out the window around 6 a.m. Monday morning, authorities told the Mail.

 

[pukasonqo2]

I am assuming she didn’t seek medical care when she was pregnant or otherwise she would not be allowed to fly OS without a letter from her doctor
What a mess, and that poor baby…

 

[Gemmie]

The following:

Infirmerie psychiatrique de la préfecture de police -is the Paris Mental Facility where she is being held. Can anyone translate?​

Infirmerie psychiatrique de la préfecture de police — Wikipédia​

Unfortunately I cannot find an English translation.

When you click on the link you don't get a popup on the upper right to select English?

 

[justtrish]

From the EF website, if these dates for next year's gap year programs are anything to go by, her program would have started in mid February, so very recently.
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These programs seem to be fully booked a year in advance, so my guess is she probably became pregnant months after booking and didn't want to miss out on the "best semester ever".
I am utterly at a loss for words about the throwing out the window part of this. She could have abandoned the baby without such violence. There are people in France who would have been overjoyed to adopt the child. I am no psychiatrist but there is clearly something very wrong that I just can't fathom.

Interesting if she did just arrive in February this year. I am assuming the gap year program didn't require a medical screening beforehand or this would have been known before she traveled? I would think a pregnancy test would be a good idea for anyone traveling for an extended time in another country. Do they not need to ensure that any medical concerns people have can be addressed while overseas? I mean what about those who are diabetic or asthmatic, etc. Don't they do a screening at least to ensure any medical issues can be treated while with this group? I'd think ruling out pregnancy would be a good idea also. I understand medical privacy, but if this company is brining people over for 3 months, that is a long time as far as some medical issues go. For her to be giving birth and if she just arrived, then that would mean she was pretty far along when she left the US.

 

[PrairieWind]

Interesting if she did just arrive in February this year. I am assuming the gap year program didn't require a medical screening beforehand or this would have been known before she traveled? I would think a pregnancy test would be a good idea for anyone traveling for an extended time in another country. Do they not need to ensure that any medical concerns people have can be addressed while overseas? I mean what about those who are diabetic or asthmatic, etc. Don't they do a screening at least to ensure any medical issues can be treated while with this group? I'd think ruling out pregnancy would be a good idea also. I understand medical privacy, but if this company is brining people over for 3 months, that is a long time as far as some medical issues go. For her to be giving birth and if she just arrived, then that would mean she was pretty far along when she left the US.

I'm guessing that EF sends a questionnaire that you have to submit prior to travel and as requested by the EU that just asks, do you have any of the following, with pregnancy being in there somewhere. She either knew she was pregnant and just lied and hid it , or didn't know. You don't have to get a physical to travel to Europe.

 

[justtrish]

I'm guessing that EF sends a questionnaire that you have to submit prior to travel and as requested by the EU that just asks, do you have any of the following, with pregnancy being in there somewhere. She either knew she was pregnant and just lied and hid it , or didn't know. You don't have to get a physical to travel to Europe.

I have never traveled overseas so I wasn't sure if anything was required. I know vaccinations in some locations are required, but what do people do about medical care when they are traveling for an extended time?

 

[Swansee]

@justtrish
Anyone traveling with a medical condition in the EU can easily refill any prescriptions there. Any bloodwork, scans or check-ups can also be done locally. Pharmacists and doctors often speak English, especially in the capital cities, and nowadays, our phones can help us iron out any translation issues.
The only shock for Americans receiving medical care in the EU tends to be how much cheaper it is.

However, and on topic: If she was that far along in her pregnancy, air travel, especially long haul like Oregon-EU, is definitely not recommended. I suspect she did not see a doctor about her pregnancy.
(Speculation: Perhaps, on some level, she was hoping the long flight would cause a miscarriage. And perhaps it did, but the pregnancy was far along enough that the baby was viable anyway.)

I looked into what I could find about her. In 2023-24 she was on her high school dance team <modsnip - photo of team with unrelated people> She graduated in 2024, so she would have been 17 or barely 18 when she graduated, which to me indicates that she was doing well in school.

FB digging seems to show a supportive and positive family environment. And according to this article, "members of her family are expected to travel from the USA to support her". MSN

I have no idea what could have happened mentally to get her to where she would do what she did.

 

[Motoman_90]

Just thinking outside the box but could the baby be a result of sexual assault? And that's why the pregnancy denial just my opinion

 

[Swansee]

Just thinking outside the box but could the baby be a result of sexual assault? And that's why the pregnancy denial just my opinion

Maybe. It did occur to me that since she's 18 now, depending on her birthday she may have still been a minor when the pregnancy began, so statutorily at least it's possible.

 

[detective.moon]

it might have be denial, or she might simply not have known

in the netherlands a woman recently gave birth on a tanning bed, in a salon. she had no idea she was pregnant. i remember there used to be a tv show called “i didn’t know i was pregnant” about similar situations

i imagine she did what she did in a state of extreme panic if she had been able to make rational decisions, wouldn’t she have left the baby somewhere safe to be taken care of? or (if she did wanted to kill the baby ) wouldn’t she have tried to hide the baby somewhere, instead of leaving the baby underneath her own hotel window?

i might be completely off, and maybe i’m just trying to find excuses for this girl! i suppose we’ll learn more about her as time goes on. but for now i kind of feel for her too, as strange as it might sound.

 

[sunflowermomma]

MOO - if she would rather yeet a newborn out a window than go to the doctor and admit she was pregnant, I highly doubt she would consent to a pregnancy test or admit to having intercourse on a medical form.

 

[scandinavian girl]

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