GUILTY France - Fiona Chafoulais, 5, Clermont-Ferrand, 12 May 2013 *Arrest*

[zwiebel]

I have been searching and searching the web for that news you've already posted here. It is big. According to the old translated article I've linked, Cecile was due in court Jan 14th to appeal her charges.

At first she was facing charges of a MAXIMUM 5 years in prison. I think they must have been very minor charges such as failing to help her child or something. However, due to her lovely boyfriend Berkane saying Cecile beat Fiona with a cable (try not to laugh at the way google translated that), she is now facing up to 30 years for aggravated manslaughter.

I'll try and look through the reports Figs posted to see if it is certain she has been refused, and if she can appeal again, Quite frankly, for someone who was so deceitful and admitted her child was badly injured and that she helped bury her, I think manslaughter's more fitting. I'd like to know what social services reports reveal about the history here too.

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...ch?q=c%C3%A9cile+bourgeon&client=safari&hl=en

 

[zwiebel]

Can any of you FBers see a link for the article they are discussing on the Dec 10 post? It is saying it's by Olivier Vidal, but this is the only one I have by him. The interview they are talking about mentions investigators also worked on the theory Fiona was placed in a container and dumped in a landfill.

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...er+vidal+fiona+chafoulais&client=safari&hl=en

 

[zwiebel]

It is confirmed. Jan 14th, Cecile was indicted for aggravated manslaughter, with her appeal quashed. She is facing 30 years. She vigorously denies all charges.

"She always hopes to help justice but the markings are blurred", her attorney stated (ref her inability to recall where she buried her daughter).

If Cecile doesn't try and negotiate some sort of deal where she reveals Fiona's whereabouts in return for a lesser sentence, it will suggest that something really terrible happened to that child. So terrible, 30 years in jail is a better prospect than people finding out what was done to Fiona.

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...examen+pour+coups+mortels&client=safari&hl=en

 

[zwiebel]

This youtube made for Fiona made me shiver. The song is written specially for her and it is haunting. As are the visuals. All the missing little ones at the end too, including Madelaine McCann..

http://youtu.be/YdYI7A4qmBU

 

[FigTree]

Can any of you FBers see a link for the article they are discussing on the Dec 10 post? It is saying it's by Olivier Vidal, but this is the only one I have by him. The interview they are talking about mentions investigators also worked on the theory Fiona was placed in a container and dumped in a landfill.

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...er+vidal+fiona+chafoulais&client=safari&hl=en

I remember very early on after the Police had arrested the 2 - that there was speculation that they had dumped Fiona into one of those industrial waste bins. I remember it because it shocked me to think that they could have just done that - but under the circumstances, and their other story of burying Fiona and Fiona not being found - maybe there is a hint of truth to it - but both of them wont spill the beans.

for Cecile getting 5 years - ppht! 30 sounds more like it. She has been so deceptive - if the Police had not bugged their residence I doubt to this day that Cecile would have offered up the information of what happened to her daughter. She was in no fear or Berkane - she was hiding what they had both done to Fiona. Dispicable.

In an article dated the 15th Jan 2014
My bold
News Source: 24MATINS Fr
Fiona: Cécile Bud will be tried for "aggravated manslaughter"

At the beginning of the case, Cécile Bud was indicted for crimes including 4 "concealment of a corpse" and "non-assistance to a person in danger." It ran up to 5 years in prison. But his companion Berkane Makhlouf was also accused of having kicked Fiona few days before his death. His indictment was amended to "aggravated manslaughter", the same charge that her ex-boyfriend. Now Cécile Bud and Berkane Makhlouf will be judged at the Assizes and face up to 30 years in prison.

Where did they put you little Fi?

Still hoping that they will find her body.

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[FigTree]

It is confirmed. Jan 14th, Cecile was indicted for aggravated manslaughter, with her appeal quashed. She is facing 30 years. She vigorously denies all charges.

"She always hopes to help justice but the markings are blurred", her attorney stated (ref her inability to recall where she buried her daughter).

If Cecile doesn't try and negotiate some sort of deal where she reveals Fiona's whereabouts in return for a lesser sentence, it will suggest that something really terrible happened to that child. So terrible, 30 years in jail is a better prospect than people finding out what was done to Fiona.

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...examen+pour+coups+mortels&client=safari&hl=en

I agree with you zwieb - something so bad that if they do find Fiona it will reveal the truth - and it will be shocking.
Maybe a 'never to be released' might shake their memory.

Oh - and to add - I did see the translation about the electrical cord - :facepalm: that was an eyeopener for sure
And the video was very moving - although I didnt understand the words the sentiment was spot on - nicely produced vid too.

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[zwiebel]

I couldn't understand much of the words of the song. But the feeling behind it was obvious and sincere. Unlike all the fake emotion we saw early on.

Is there the classic 'grain of truth' in where they said Fiona is buried, or is it an outright lie and she's somewhere else entirely? I just don't know.

 

[zwiebel]

Over the past two days, extensive helicopter searches have been taking place over a large area of the Aydat for Fiona. They are still working on the last information from Cecile (Fiona's buried somewhere near 'a house' and 'a turn') but not letting that dictate the terms of the search any longer - they are looking for evidence of a grave anywhere in that area.

It seems - unless that's just the google translation - that judges or members of the judiciary are directing the searches. I'd rather see a SAR professional with experience in finding murder victims directing the search myself. I'd love to see Mark Klaas or Tim Miller over there helping. It'll never happen though. Authorities are insisting they are not going to give up though. That's such good news.

I'm disgusted with Berkane and Cecile. He's saying nothing and she's just making it up as she goes along, in my opinion.

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...+corps+de+la+petite+fiona&client=safari&hl=en

 

[zwiebel]

Does anyone remember that there were supposed to be about five people in the house at a 'party' the night Fiona was hurt or 'sick' in the apartment. Whatever happened about them?

 

[rpgman]

Was in Clermont-Ferrand last April doing work for Michelin, which has their world headquarters there. What a beautiful city it is. I do hope they find this little girl.

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[SCHMAE]

Rest baby Girl !

 

[FigTree]

Does anyone remember that there were supposed to be about five people in the house at a 'party' the night Fiona was hurt or 'sick' in the apartment. Whatever happened about them?

Yes, nothing much was mentioned after the initial reports of the Police bugging the unit. I hope they were all questioned. Though the way Cecile and Berkane have acted I'm not expecting their 'friends' to be that trustworthy.
Its interesting though you mention it - if the friends had been there (supposedly) at the time Fiona was 'choking' or she was 'being hit' and she did pass away - how was that kept so silent - or was it.
Just some of my thoughts there...

Im very pleased they are conducting searches with helicopters and looking for a gravesite now - and doing so beyond whatever information they were given by Cecile and Berkane.

Please may they bring little Fi home.

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[zwiebel]

A bit late, but police have launched an appeal for anyone who had a shovel stolen in the Clermont Ferrand area in May - remember, Cecile said she and Berkane stole one to bury Fiona.

Police haven't had any response yet, although as they point out, many homes in the area are second homes which won't be occupied until the big vacation period in August. They have done a big mailout though, so people should get to know about the 'shovel search' eventually.

I wonder what happened about that abandoned shovel the hunter found ages ago? That was in the right area. I hope it was forensically tested.

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...ffaire-fiona_1854858.html&client=safari&hl=en

 

[zwiebel]

Call me a cynic, but would a person set out to bury a body with just the hope that they would be able to steal a shovel on the way?

I think Berkane and Cecile would have been prepared to steal a shovel. But I think it is more likely it was stolen from a home near the apartment they lived in, before they set out to bury Fiona. I don't think it will provide any clue to her location.

There is also the possibility they borrowed one from one of their 'party friends', and that person hasn't come forward. Police should offer immunity from prosecution for anyone coming forward with information about it.

*The FB set up calling for the (non existant in France) death penalty for Cecile and Berkane has nearly 10 thousand likes now. I wish they would put some info up there that's more relevant to the search for this little one. That would be more helpful.

 

[FigTree]

A bit late, but police have launched an appeal for anyone who had a shovel stolen in the Clermont Ferrand area in May - remember, Cecile said she and Berkane stole one to bury Fiona.

Police haven't had any response yet, although as they point out, many homes in the area are second homes which won't be occupied until the big vacation period in August. They have done a big mailout though, so people should get to know about the 'shovel search' eventually.

I wonder what happened about that abandoned shovel the hunter found ages ago? That was in the right area. I hope it was forensically tested.

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...ffaire-fiona_1854858.html&client=safari&hl=en

Thanks zwiebel for the new report...
I bet they couldn't find one piece of dna or fingerprint on it - or even dirt.
Or maybe it was claimed by the person/council who actually put it there.

Interesting though - looks as if the Police are not believing the 'buried Fiona' story, or some aspect of it.
I really hope Police crack this case.
It also might be that the volunteers have covered so much ground now - that Police believe Fiona wasn't buried at all in the area where Berkane and Cecile said she was.
The more they run the Police around like this, the more likely they will be adding years to their sentences.

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[FigTree]

This article covers 3 stories:
The ongoing search for little Fi
The deportation and arrest of a male whoi had sexually assaulted Cecile Bud more than a year before Fiona was murdered.
Next steps in the case...

Translator - French to English
Read full article:
Fiona: aerial search of the body are involved

Despite intensive research investigators in the sector Aydat (pictured), the body of the little Fiona has not yet been found, eight months after his death. But the prosecutor in Clermont-Ferrand does not lose hope and do not rule out return soon on the ground in the presence of the mother or the father-child. "We changed the method of investigation of the body, explains Pierre seines magistrate in charge of the investigation.
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The rapist arrested Cécile Bud

Last Friday, a Clermont 35 years was arrested in Lyon on Thursday to two rapes, including Cecile bud, the mother of the little Fiona. The man, who was the subject of an international arrest warrant issued by the judge of Clermont-Ferrand in May 2013, was intercepted his off the plane from Algeria, before being transferred in the capital of Auvergne. He was then heard Friday by the judges, indicted and imprisoned, despite his denials.
Offender, well known police for acts of violence and drug trafficking, is believed to have violated Cécile Bud, a year before the death of the girl. Fiona's mother had lodged a complaint against him, May 5, 2012.
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Next instruction, the case follows his heart. The phycologiques and psychiatric examinations of the mother and stepfather of Fiona will take place in the coming days. The Assize trial could be held before the end of the year. Cécile Bud and Berkane Makhlouf incur both 30 years imprisonment. Geneviève Colonna d'Istria.

 

[SCHMAE]

Where is the baby ?
I'm so afraid I will forget to check That I will get busy looking at other stupid things on facebook and youtube and forget this baby was never found .......
How can I , across the world and never having met her, seem to care more about where she is than her mother ?

 

[FigTree]

Where is the baby ?
I'm so afraid I will forget to check That I will get busy looking at other stupid things on facebook and youtube and forget this baby was never found .......
How can I , across the world and never having met her, seem to care more about where she is than her mother ?

I was just reading some headlines and what you mention SCHMAE is also on the minds of others - How can Cecile not tell them where little Fi is ? Heres a quote from the opening line in the article: LeParisien - Feb 12 2014. Read in full...

The image of grieving mother by the disappearance of her daughter already seems to belong to a distant past. Worse, than lying under the influence is going to fade in favor of the woman devoid of affect, even manipulative.

Cécile Bud lived a symbiotic relationship with her partner Berkane Makhlouf. In May, they had established a whole morbid pact to conceal the death of Fiona.

The article also goes on to mention the suspicious Doctors Appointment:
On May 10, the couple goes to the doctor for a medical certificate of absence of Fiona for twenty-one days to come, claiming a hasty departure to Perpignan. The doctor agrees, without even seeing the girl. Four days earlier, Cecile Bud had done research on the Internet about actions causing ligament tears the arm of a child. History - undated - the computer showed the following research on a discussion forum: "spanking child unbearable, psychology, hysterics, help." Many clues that paint a portrait of a woman totally exceeded.

Where is Fiona's body -
"In these circumstances, the reality of his partial amnesia is questionable and it is reasonable to ask that the discovery of the corpse of the child might reveal that Cécile Bud tries to hide.

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I am certain there is something about Fionas body which both Celcile and Berkane are trying to hide.
Thinking further on this I am wondering if they are delaying purposely disclosing where they put Fiona so that the body will be to bone before they tell anyone where Fi is - some sudden return of memory *cough*
I think they should investigate if Cecile or Berkane looked up any 'forensic - cadaver' information on the net.
It makes me think 'what the heck further could have happened to Little Fi' - it would have had to be something evident that leaves a physical tale after death and needs decomposition to leave no trace.



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[zwiebel]

I for one will never forget the 'Cecile smirk' when she appealed for help to find the daughter she herself had buried in an unmarked grave.

 

[zwiebel]

It's interesting that Cecile's alleged rapist appears to have voluntarily flown back into France?