France - Machine Gun attack on magazine Charlie Hebdo #1

[Zuri]

Just maybe the march was scheduled for today because all the leaders were going to be there?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop should have travelled to France for the march, Australia sent some senator I have never even heard of.

 

[Cappuccino]

If the US President or Vice President were there, the security risk to the masses and other foreign leaders would have been astronomical. Do you have any idea how assassinating the leader of the free world would play out in the terror cells and other radical groups? Very glad they did NOT go as the harm that could befall the innocents would be irreparable.

The security risk was already astronomical with the British PM, the Israeli PM, the French President, the German Chancellor and the Secretary General of the UN all present. It could hardly have been any higher no matter which US politician attended.

 

[jillycat]

If the US President or Vice President were there, the security risk to the masses and other foreign leaders would have been astronomical. Do you have any idea how assassinating the leader of the free world would play out in the terror cells and other radical groups? Very glad they did NOT go as the harm that could befall the innocents would be irreparable.

Any time the masses gather and there is world knowledge of their gathering, they are all targets. Secondly, who is the biggest target of them all, if not Netanyahu, who's now speaking as I type. So if he can defy the very goal of terrorists, which is to terrorize, why can't a US President make an appearance on behalf the people of the United States? Given the mission of a band of loons on 9/11/2001 to make the Pentagon a target, does POTUS truly believe they're above coming to the White House where his kids live?

We can never outguess terrorists who will go anywhere and do anything to achieve their goals.

 

[ZaZara]

"CHARLIE HEBDO: THE WIFE OF CHÉRIF KOUACHI "CONDEMS" HIS DEEDS


L'OBS reports
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/char...use-de-cherif-kouachi-condamne-ses-actes.html

Translation

The wife of Chérif Kouachi, one of the two killers of Charlie Hebdo, "has condemned the acts of her husband," one of her lawyers, Maître Christian Saint-Palais said on Sunday, January 11.

The young woman was released after 72 hours of detention, during which she "expressed outrage and condemnation of the violence."
She also expressed "thoughts for the victims" and had "the same reaction as the national community," said the lawyer, whom we met during the march in memory of the victims.

According to him, the young woman had never detected any sign suggesting that the husband would move on to terrorist action that way. She was "stupefied," he assured.


BBM


Help me understand this. The neighbours hear the brothers pray day and night. They break into the house and discover loads of weapons.
The wife has not noticed this, or maybe she did notice and thought it was all for the fun of it. But her husband 'would not move on to terrorist action that way.'

Yeah.

 

[Footwarrior]

so the reality is no one was sent to participate today; no one from the US was sent to offer our country's support to the people of Paris by standing with its citizens against these terrorist attacks which are becoming more, and more commonplace.

shameful and deplorable.

MOO

The US was represented in the Paris march by Ambassador Jane Hartley.

 

[Zuri]

Personally, I would not want Waddles, Za Zara or Colin de france put in harm's way by having a lightening rod for terrorism there. I do wish, however, that the mayor of Rotterdam could have given the same speech there as he did in Rotterdam. I loved it that he said for those that didn't like the freedoms to leave and just *f off.

 

[jillycat]

I think the whole 'Lone Wolf' idea is a bit of a fallacy, and what has happened is that instead of the big events like 911, extremists have realised that small attacks by smaller cells, or individuals against unlikely civilian targets can have just as much effect and are harder to detect in advance, and therefore more likely to be 'successful'.

Expert warns every place where people live and work becomes a target of “retail terrorism”

Not my fallacy, but it is a fallacy that's being advanced, and in my view, to the detriment of a lot of innocent people.

 

[jillycat]

Personally, I would not want Waddles, Za Zara or Colin de france put in harm's way by having a lightening rod for terrorism there. I do wish, however, that the mayor of Rotterdam could have given the same speech there as he did in Rotterdam. I loved it that he said for those that didn't like the freedoms to leave and just *f off.

Again, what is a bigger lightening rod than Netanyahu speaking at Grande Synagogue?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Not my fallacy, but it is a fallacy that's being advanced, and in my view, to the detriment of a lot of innocent people.

Oh no, sorry, I did not mean you .. I meant by our politicians, it seems to me the brush off of 'lone wolf' or 'isolated incident' is to keep the masses from rising up more than it is being honest with us about what is really going on.

 

[Zuri]

I think the whole 'Lone Wolf' idea is a bit of a fallacy, and what has happened is that instead of the big events like 911, extremists have realised that small attacks by smaller cells, or individuals against unlikely civilian targets can have just as much effect and are harder to detect in advance, and therefore more likely to be 'successful'.

Expert warns every place where people live and work becomes a target of “retail terrorism”

Much harder to keep track of a lot of smaller groups than one large one. I really hope Anonymous will scramble their social media means so their communication is less effective.

 

[Elley Mae]

Can't remember if Obama walked out in the open in South Africa along with throngs of other leaders. Yes, I remember he was there.

How could we forget.


Obama Takes Selfie With World Leaders At Mandela Memorial, And Michelle Is Having None Of It

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/obama-selfie_n_4419349.html

 

[jillycat]

Oh no, sorry, I did not mean you .. I meant by our politicians, it seems to me the brush off of 'lone wolf' or 'isolated incident' is to keep the masses from rising up more than it is being honest with us about what is really going on.

I understand...and agree with your dissent concerning the foolish characterization.

 

[Zuri]

Again, what is a bigger lightening rod than Netanyahu speaking at Grande Synagogue?

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/WATCH...t-Paris-synagogue-for-memorial-service-387401
Fortunately, he spoke inside the Synagogue. In the video, you can see how close his security detail was to him. They were constantly scanning the crowd. I can't imagine what it must feel like to have a huge target on your back.

 

[Footwarrior]

It might be time to remember that this attack wasn't all that sophisticated. It wasn't beyond the means of a few radicals based in France. The most difficult part would have been acquiring the weapons.

The London Subway and Madrid train bombings required far more resources, preparation and coordination.

 

[ZaZara]

Daniel Wickham has updated his list of Staunch Defenders of Free Press:


https://storify.com/tometty/staunch-defenders-of-free-press-attend-solidarity


:drumroll:

 

[Zuri]

It might be time to remember that this attack wasn't all that sophisticated. It wasn't beyond the means of a few radicals based in France. The most difficult part would have been acquiring the weapons.

The London Subway and Madrid train bombings required far more resources, preparation and coordination.

You raise an interesting point. Are those Russian made AK-47's sold in France or just smuggled in?

 

[jillycat]

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/WATCH...t-Paris-synagogue-for-memorial-service-387401
Fortunately, he spoke inside the Synagogue. In the video, you can see how close his security detail was to him. They were constantly scanning the crowd. I can't imagine what it must feel like to have a huge target on your back.

And to know that a home made bomb could decimate the entire building.

 

[Zuri]

Daniel Wickham has updated his list of Staunch Defenders of Free Press:


https://storify.com/tometty/staunch-defenders-of-free-press-attend-solidarity


:drumroll:

Wow. Just wow. The hypocrisy is rather blatant isn't it....

 

[Zuri]

And to know that a home made bomb could decimate the entire building.

Thankfully, the French and Israeli security forces made sure that didn't happen. They deserve a lot of credit.