Found Deceased France - Paul and Gerda Klapper, Dutch citizens did not reach destination, last signal in northern France, white Peugeot 2008, 12 Jun 2025

[anijs6]

Paul and Gerda Klapper have been missing since June 12. The couple from Alphen aan den Rijn left Thursday, June 12, for vacation to their vacation home in France, near Dijon. They did not arrive there and could not be reached by phone as of noon June 13.

The Dutch police are investigating their current whereabouts with the investigating authorities in France. Police know they arrived in northern France, but after that every trace is missing. They left in a white Peugeot 2008 bearing registration number KL-476-H.

Description:
Current age: 80 and 83 years
Hair: gray and brown
Skin color: light
Eyes: dark
Car: White Peugeot 2008 with license plate KL-476-H

Official post by the Dutch police

 

[chaz]

Paul (83) en Gerda (80) verdwenen in Frankrijk, familie is radeloos: ‘Elk spoor loopt dood’

ALPHEN AAN DEN RIJN - 'Het lijkt wel of ze verward zijn vertrokken. Mijn opa heeft zijn medicatie niet bij zich, ze hebben de buren niet gevraagd voor de plantjes en nu hebben we al dagen geen...

www.studioalphen.nl

The picture is the car they left in.
I Google translated this article:
ALPHEN AAN DEN RIJN - 'It seems like they left confused. My grandfather didn't bring his medication, they didn't ask the neighbours for the plants and now we haven't been able to get in touch for days, while my grandmother normally calls us all day.'

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[TootsieFootsie]

Dutch elderly couple missing in France for days, family fears for their safety

A Dutch couple in their 80s has been missing in France for four days, prompting a desperate search by family members and authorities in both the Netherlands and France. Paul Klapper, 83, and his wife Gerda, 80, from Alphen aan den Rijn were last seen Thursday evening in the Belgian city of...

nltimes.nl

Article in english

Dutch elderly couple missing in France for days, family fears for their safety

A Dutch couple in their 80s has been missing in France for four days, prompting a desperate search by family members and authorities in both the Netherlands and France. Paul Klapper, 83, and his wife Gerda, 80, from Alphen aan den Rijn were last seen Thursday evening in the Belgian city of...

nltimes.nl

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Oops sorry I didn't notice I'd posted the link twice and in the same post too,

I hope this couple is safe somewhere.

 

[chaz]

Google translate from:

Franse politie verspreidt opsporingsbericht om vermist Alphens echtpaar Paul en Gerda Klapper. Zoektocht concentreert zich op traject tussen Saint-Dizier en Planchez

De vermiste Gerda en Paul Klapper. © privéfoto ALPHEN AAN DEN RIJN / PLANCHEZ – Ook de Franse politie is nu actief betrokken bij de zoektocht naar Paul (83) en Gerda (80) Klapper uit Alphen aan den

www.nieuwsinalphen.nl

ALPHEN AAN DEN RIJN / PLANCHEZ – The French police are now also actively involved in the search for Paul (83) and Gerda (80) Klapper from Alphen aan den Rijn. The couple has been missing since Thursday morning, June 13. According to the gendarmerie, it has been confirmed that the couple disappeared from the radar somewhere between Saint-Dizier and their second home in Planchez (Burgundy).

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picture of their French home:

 

[TootsieFootsie]

From the article

"The French police are calling on residents and tourists to look out for the white Peugeot 2008 with Dutch license plate KL-476-H, possibly with damage to the front. It is expected that license plates have been swapped. Anyone with information about the disappearance of Paul and Gerda Klapper is urgently requested to contact the French gendarmerie, or in the Netherlands the police via the national information number"

 

[chaz]

Sad news

https://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/lichaam-vermiste-gerda-80-gevonden-in-frankrijk-zoektocht-naar-echtgenoot-paul-83-nog-in-volle-gang/72684077.html

Gerda's body was found wednesday, Paul is still missing.​

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[Lucy6226]

Sad news

https://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/lichaam-vermiste-gerda-80-gevonden-in-frankrijk-zoektocht-naar-echtgenoot-paul-83-nog-in-volle-gang/72684077.html

Gerda's body was found wednesday, Paul is still missing.​

From the above link.

Dutch police have stated there is currently 'no indication that a crime has been committed'. Which is strange as it's previously been stated that the car plates may have been swapped. Why would the plates be swapped?

It states the couple were heading to the 'village of Planchez in the Morvan region of Burgundy, where they have had a second home for 25 years. They were supposed to meet an estate agent there to sell the house'.

 

[Dotta]

From the above link.

Dutch police have stated there is currently 'no indication that a crime has been committed'. Which is strange as it's previously been stated that the car plates may have been swapped. Why would the plates be swapped?

It states the couple were heading to the 'village of Planchez in the Morvan region of Burgundy, where they have had a second home for 25 years. They were supposed to meet an estate agent there to sell the house'.

Besides,
Quoting from a post above

About a car

"...possibly with damage to the front..."

Was there a traffic accident?

What a tragedy!
RIP
Condolences to family

 

[anijs6]

Paul's body has been found as well. No indication of a crime.

Article in AD

 

[jackal67]

Paul's body has been found as well. No indication of a crime.

Article in AD

Do we know where they were found and what about their car?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

https://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/drama-compleet-ook-lichaam-vermiste-paul-83-gevonden-in-frankrijk/72684077.html

A translated part of this article says the car was found in a stream.

 

[Dotta]

Do we know where they were found and what about their car?

Quote from the above post

"According to another French newspaper, Le Dauphiné,
the bodies were found near Leurville,
in the Haute-Marne department.

The village is about 200 kilometers from the couple's home.

The white Peugeot was reportedly found in the water there.

The regional French newspaper Le Progres reported earlier Thursday
that Gerda's body was found a few hundred meters away from the car, a white Peugeot.

This has since been confirmed by the authorities.

Paul's body was also found near the car."

Ook lichaam van vermiste Paul gevonden in Frankrijk, familie: ‘Noodlottige samenloop van omstandigheden’

Het lichaam van de vermiste Paul (83), naar wie meer dan een week werd gezocht, is gevonden. Woensdag werd zijn vrouw Gerda al aangetroffen. De familie van het echtpaar spreekt van een ‘noodlottige samenloop van omstandigheden’. Een misdrijf is uitgesloten, meldt een woordvoerder.

www.ad.nl

 

[detective.moon]

It is not yet clear what happened to the couple. The family spokesman speaks of a “fateful confluence of circumstances.” The cause of death is still being investigated, but a crime seems almost certainly ruled out.

Ook vermiste Nederlandse man dood gevonden in Frankijk

De man was samen met zijn vrouw sinds een aantal dagen vermist in Frankrijk. De vrouw werd eerder vandaag ook dood aangetroffen.

nos.nl

 

[jackal67]

Quote from the above post

"According to another French newspaper, Le Dauphiné, the bodies were found near Leurville, in the Haute-Marne department.

The village is about 200 kilometers from the couple's home.
The white Peugeot was reportedly found in the water there.

The regional French newspaper Le Progres reported earlier Thursday
that Gerda's body was found a few hundred meters away from the car, a white Peugeot.
This has since been confirmed by the authorities.
Paul's body was also found near the car."

Ook lichaam van vermiste Paul gevonden in Frankrijk, familie: ‘Noodlottige samenloop van omstandigheden’

Het lichaam van de vermiste Paul (83), naar wie meer dan een week werd gezocht, is gevonden. Woensdag werd zijn vrouw Gerda al aangetroffen. De familie van het echtpaar spreekt van een ‘noodlottige samenloop van omstandigheden’. Een misdrijf is uitgesloten, meldt een woordvoerder.

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Thanks. How sad

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Ook lichaam van vermiste Paul (83) gevonden in Frankrijk

Het echtpaar werd sinds donderdag 12 juni vermist. Paul en Gerda waren onderweg naar hun tweede huis in Frankrijk voor een afspraak met een makelaar. Toen er geen co

www-alphens-nl.translate.goog

Their bodies were found near their car.
Says several hundred meters apart, but this hasn't been confirmed.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Haute-Marne. Disparition d'un couple de Hollandais : les corps des deux octogénaires ont été retrouvés

Les corps de Paul et Gerda Klapper, 83 et 80 ans, ont été retrouvés en Haute-Marne. Ils étaient censés se rendre en voiture dans leur résidence secondaire de la Nièvre.

www-ledauphine-com.translate.goog

The car was first located, before the body of the woman, Gerda Klapper, was discovered a few hundred meters away on Wednesday, the Dutch police announced .

Then that of her husband, further away, was discovered this Thursday. According to our information, their vehicle, a white Peugeot 2008, was found near a watercourse.

The Chaumont Research Brigade (Haute-Marne) has been called in to investigate. Autopsies will be carried out to explain the circumstances of the deaths, but there are no traces of violence.

 

[Dotta]

Haute-Marne. Disparition d'un couple de Hollandais : les corps des deux octogénaires ont été retrouvés

Les corps de Paul et Gerda Klapper, 83 et 80 ans, ont été retrouvés en Haute-Marne. Ils étaient censés se rendre en voiture dans leur résidence secondaire de la Nièvre.

www-ledauphine-com.translate.goog

The car was first located, before the body of the woman, Gerda Klapper, was discovered a few hundred meters away on Wednesday, the Dutch police announced .

Then that of her husband, further away, was discovered this Thursday. According to our information, their vehicle, a white Peugeot 2008, was found near a watercourse.

The Chaumont Research Brigade (Haute-Marne) has been called in to investigate. Autopsies will be carried out to explain the circumstances of the deaths, but there are no traces of violence.

Does it mean the bodies were found in the water too?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Haute-Marne. Disparition d'un couple de Hollandais : les corps des deux octogénaires ont été retrouvés

Les corps de Paul et Gerda Klapper, 83 et 80 ans, ont été retrouvés en Haute-Marne. Ils étaient censés se rendre en voiture dans leur résidence secondaire de la Nièvre.

www-ledauphine-com.translate.goog

From the article.

Grandfather recently hit the safety barriers with his car here in the Netherlands. The long drive was becoming increasingly difficult.

 

[Dotta]

Haute-Marne. Disparition d'un couple de Hollandais : les corps des deux octogénaires ont été retrouvés

Les corps de Paul et Gerda Klapper, 83 et 80 ans, ont été retrouvés en Haute-Marne. Ils étaient censés se rendre en voiture dans leur résidence secondaire de la Nièvre.

www-ledauphine-com.translate.goog

From the article.

Grandfather recently hit the safety barriers with his car here in the Netherlands. The long drive was becoming increasingly difficult.

I wonder if the couple's allegedly strange behaviour
(not notifying anybody about their journey, phones turned off, car plates swapped)
was to avoid their family possibly forcing them to give up driving abroad by themselves.

After all,
recently hitting safety barriers must have been very worrying for the pair's children.

JMO