FRANCE - Truck drives into crowd celebrating Bastille Day in Nice, 2016 *Guilty*

[Inthedetails]

EEK! MSNBC Military coup in Turkey!!!!!! JMO Richard Engel saying

WTF?!?!?!?!

I'll see you at the other thread.

 

[human]

In this age of media saturation, we as parents are forced to try to explain these inexplicable acts of horror. I can't express how unbearably sad that makes me.

I've had to tell my precious, irreplaceable, sensitive, wonder of a child----most people are good, but not everyone is, and that sometimes people are so consumed with hatred and anger they try to destroy everything and everyone around them, and that it is an unforgivable and cowardly choice they make to hurt others rather than to face up to their own problems, however painful they may be.

An explanation that thank God I can tell in the abstract. That little boy's grandfather, living the unbearable directly, did what was most merciful, which was to tell his grandson, yes, it was just a dream.

It is a little more difficult to explain the lockdowns at schools for active shooter drills. In America the children know. I imagine plenty know about Lanza and Columbine. If you look online, you can see the massive amounts of school shootings that did not happen because people reported the plans

 

[SophieRose]

It's terrible for all the families of those unaccounted for. A student called Nick Lesley from University of California Berkeley is also missing.

"Nick Leslie, a University of California at Berkeley student studying abroad in France, is missing after the Nice attack. His uncle is going from hospital to hospital in the city trying to find him. WSJ’s Jason Bellini reports."

http://www.wsj.com/video/american-s...ack/8A263FC6-60FF-45ED-AD24-6E7D2B44B97D.html

http://www.berkeleyside.com/2016/07/15/uc-berkeley-student-missing-after-nice-attack/

The Daily Beast is reporting, however, that a friend of Leslie’s said he saw the 20-year old bolting off through the streets of Old Nice. However, Leslie’s aunt, Bottini’s wife, said the student never returned to his student housing on Thursday night.

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Three other UC Berkeley students attending the program were also injured in the Nice attack, according to the school. Two students suffered broken legs after the attack and one student has a broken foot, according to UCB News.

The campus has offered to bring home any students who wish to leave; three have taken up the offer so far, according to UC Berkeley.

 

[Inthedetails]

Anyone hear this about the ex-wife?

Bouhlel was married for a time, and had three children. Sometime in the past two years, he and his wife apparently divorced. His ex-wife was reportedly arrested on Friday.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4828868,00.html

 

[Gardenista]

So happy to hear this

[video=twitter;753999430370623489]https://twitter.com/montie/status/753999430370623489[/video]

 

[Momoffourboys]

Anyone hear this about the ex-wife?

Bouhlel was married for a time, and had three children. Sometime in the past two years, he and his wife apparently divorced. His ex-wife was reportedly arrested on Friday.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4828868,00.html

Her brother and HIS cousin were interviewed. I'll look for it online but I heard it on radio.
Everyone seems to agree...this guy was a real . All around.

 

[Momoffourboys]

EXCLUSIVE - 'He drank alcohol, ate pork and took drugs. He was NOT a Muslim - he was a s***': Truck terrorist's cousin reveals he is an 'unlikely jihadist' who beat his wife and NEVER went to the mosque

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eat-wife-NEVER-went-mosque.html#ixzz4EW9Reww7
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[Momoffourboys]

Heartbreaking.

Faces of the missing: Friends and families in desperate plea to find children feared caught up in Bastille Day truck massacre

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...astille-Day-truck-massacre.html#ixzz4EW9jlDAv
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[Inthedetails]

Okay folks, I just have to share a strange occurrence that happened to me today.

Earlier today I wrote the sappy (but sincere!) post on this thread that one way I want to respond to all this crap going on is to step up my own manners, politeness, and friendliness.

I also read the posts about the term taqiyya, from what I gather means that it is acceptable to some Muslims to deceive non-believers if it furthers their own cause - in the context of Muslims looking like they fit in with Western culture when in fact they do not accept it.

I had those two thoughts in my mind as I left my home. I live in the inner city, very diverse neighborhood, but the only Middle-Easterners I encounter near my home are shopkeepers. I think the local shopkeepers tend to be from Oman. I really don't see many Middle-Eastern women or people who live in the neighborhood - just the men in their shops. Anyway, I had the duel thoughts of friendliness and taqiyya on my mind when I stepped outside.

As I stepped out my door on my residential street, a Middle-Eastern woman approached me. This happened within 30 second or less of me leaving my building. I was taken aback to encounter her while I was thinking of this particular thread. She was not completely covered, but she did wear a veil and long dress. She asked me where to find a Chase bank. It was so strange as my street is sort of tucked away - not a place to find people who didn't deliberately intend to be there. I explained the nearest banks are a few blocks away and she told me she was told to go to this street to the bank. I explained how to get to the Chase bank she wanted - puzzled because Chase banks are everywhere - you don't have to travel to an unfamiliar neighborhood to find one. Wherever she lives in the city, there is likely a Chase bank nearby.

It was a pleasant, short conversation. As I sent her on her way and thought to myself, "She looks Turkish."

Then I come home and read about Turkey.

I know this is all coincidence and sort of a story about nothing, but the timing was a little strange....

 

[Momoffourboys]

I'm glad someone brought up Israel. I think it would be beneficial for all civilized nations to come together to consult with them on how better to prevent terror attacks. They live in one of the most volatile areas in the entire world, totally surrounded by people who would like to wipe them from the face of the earth. Of course, over the years they have suffered many terrorist attacks, but in recent years they seem to have drastically reduced the number of attacks quite successfully. They have had more experience than any other nation in learning how to protect themselves & their citizens. I do not know this for a fact, but I suspect that one of the things that they do is profiling. I'm sure some here will slam me for mentioning profiling & so be it. When the enemy looks like a duck, walks like a duck. & quacks like a duck, it very likely is a duck. One reason that I believe they profile is that I have been to Israel. It is literally easier for me to get into & out of Israel than it is to get out of & back into the U.S. I suspect the Israelis have not had a terrorism problem involving elderly, gray haired grannies. The U.S. is so busy doing security checks on everyone that they fail to notice the really bad guys. I haven't traveled abroad recently but the last time I was in Europe the only country where I was scrutinized closely was in Spain.

This all JMO, IMO.

I just returned from a few weeks in the middle east and Europe.
I was SO disappointed with security at CDG. After everything France has gone through...I really expected security to be heightened. As for Israel, they do their due diligence BEFORE passengers even get to the airport. The security agent asked us questions about things only WE would know.

I can say one thing...people everywhere want peace and quiet. Jews. Muslims. Christians. Your average mom and dad. Young people. They want to live in peace. They want to coexist. They believe it is achieveable.

I can only hope.

 

[rsd1200]

Essentially, countries that are most populated with Muslims, are the ones most likely to experience terrorist attacks?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_the_European_Union_by_Muslim_population

Pretty much. Say, for example, one person is a Baptist, and another is a Pentecostal. Essentially, both would believe the same core Christian beliefs, but, there's enough differences to have two different churches. Same with other religions. ISIS, DAESH, ISIL, whatever you want to call them, basically are a different type of Islamic believer. They believe in [FONT=&amp]mainstream Sunni Islam. However, unlike many other different religions, who might say, well, I don't believe exactly like the Baptist, (or the Pentecostal), or they're Atheist, but they're all good folks, let them go their own path, the ISIS Sunni Islamists [/FONT][FONT=&amp]view all non-Sunnis as false Muslims, and therefore, heretics who need to submit to the “true Islam” , which ISIS says is Sunni. Same goes for any other religion, or for those who are atheist. So it doesn't matter if someone is [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Shia, Sufis, Druze, and Baha’i, or any other type of Islam believer, or an Atheist, Christian, European, American, or Israeli or anyone else, they are all seen as [/FONT]infidels[FONT=&amp] who must either [/FONT]c[FONT=&amp]onvert to [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Sunni Islam[/FONT][FONT=&amp], be conquered, or be killed.[/FONT]

 

[human]

Isn't CDG considered to be one of the worst airports? Have never been there but I have heard it.

What about all of the protesters re the changes in work laws. Did you see lots of protesters in the streets?

 

[Elley Mae]

EXCLUSIVE - 'He drank alcohol, ate pork and took drugs. He was NOT a Muslim - he was a s***': Truck terrorist's cousin reveals he is an 'unlikely jihadist' who beat his wife and NEVER went to the mosque

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eat-wife-NEVER-went-mosque.html#ixzz4EW9Reww7
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Expected from friends and family members.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Isn't CDG considered to be one of the worst airports? Have never been there but I have heard it.

What about all of the protesters re the changes in work laws. Did you see lots of protesters in the streets?

Worst in what sense?
Every flight in or out of CDG is delayed. In that sense, yes. I try to avoid that airport at all cost.

 

[rsd1200]

Expected from friends and family members.

That's kind of like the serial killer's family, friends, and neighbors. He was such a quiet man. Never heard him raise his voice. Collected insects, liked to sew, but kept the cellar door always padlocked for some reason. Uhm hmmm. I'm not buying it.

 

[human]

Worst in what sense?
Every flight in or out of CDG is delayed. In that sense, yes. I try to avoid that airport at all cost.

I do not recall why. Just that it has been identified as the worst. Gotta google

 

[wendybtn]

ffs!!!

Apparently, no authority asked to see what was in the truck. Nine hours! Amazing!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Please stop saying the Nice attacks have nothing to do with Islam

Maajid Nawaz

So please stop denying the nature of jihadism. Please stop ignoring the narratives which drive these attacks. Instead of aiding extremists who insist Islam today is perfect, perhaps you should aid us beleaguered reformist Muslims who are attempting to address this crisis within Islam against all the odds.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/please-stop-staying-the-nice-attacks-arent-about-islam/

 

[faw720]

I just returned from a few weeks in the middle east and Europe.
I was SO disappointed with security at CDG. After everything France has gone through...I really expected security to be heightened. As for Israel, they do their due diligence BEFORE passengers even get to the airport. The security agent asked us questions about things only WE would know.

I can say one thing...people everywhere want peace and quiet. Jews. Muslims. Christians. Your average mom and dad. Young people. They want to live in peace. They want to coexist. They believe it is achieveable.

I can only hope.

Once, several years ago, I lived across the street from people whose daughter was a flight attendant for American Airlines. According to them AA told their employees to be extra vigilant at CDG. Apparently it is not one of the safest airports in the world. Personally, I've never had a problem there.

As for Israel, I was never asked any questions when entering or leaving. I expected questions & scrutiny but it didn't happen. Of course, they may have checked me out the moment I made my reservations & I could have known nothing about it.

I guess I've got enough old hippy left in me that I don't really understand why people can't live together in peace & harmony. IMO, it is not necessary for others to believe as I believe. I may disagree but by no means do I want to kill anyone who thinks differently. It shouldn't be so hard to be tolerant of others, but apparently it is.

 

[Hope4More]

Please stop saying the Nice attacks have nothing to do with Islam

Maajid Nawaz

So please stop denying the nature of jihadism. Please stop ignoring the narratives which drive these attacks. Instead of aiding extremists who insist Islam today is perfect, perhaps you should aid us beleaguered reformist Muslims who are attempting to address this crisis within Islam against all the odds.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/please-stop-staying-the-nice-attacks-arent-about-islam/

A false choice in this instance. Sure hope reformist Muslims can be part of a larger solution to the problem of terrorism, but this massacre had nothing to do with any religion, or anything larger than the twisted mind of one sickeningly violent individual.