FRAUD - Tammy & Sidney Moorer in Heather Elvis case, hearing held 17 Dec 2018

[Dr. Know?]

I found this link to daily booking interesting as far as who has bond amounts on the new charges to date and who doesn't.

MOORER, SIDNEY STCLAIR
MYRTLE BEACH, SC 29588 AMERICAN (US) MALE 01/14/1976
38 2/21/2014 11:00:00 AM incarcerated
MURDER - NO BAIL SET
KIDNAPPING - Pre-Trial - NO BAIL SET
OBTAIN SIGNATURE OR PROP. UNDER FALSE PRETENSES, VALUE $5,000 OR MORE - Pre-Trial - $32,500.00
INDECENT EXPOSURE - Pre-Trial - $5,000.00 (2 Charges)
FALSE STATEMENT ON APPLICATION FOR MEDICAID ASSISTANCE - Pre-Trial - $32,500.00
OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE - Pre-Trial - $10,000.00

MOORER, TAMMY LORINDA
MYRTLE BEACH, SC 29588 AMERICAN (US) FEMALE 03/08/1972
42 2/21/2014 8:50:00 AM incarcerated
MURDER - NO BAIL SET
KIDNAPPING - Pre-Trial - NO BAIL SET
OBTAIN SIGNATURE OR PROP. UNDER FALSE PRETENSES, VALUE $5,000 OR MORE - Pre-Trial - NO BAIL SET
INDECENT EXPOSURE - Disposed - $5,000.00 (2 Charges)
FALSE STATEMENT ON APPLICATION FOR MEDICAID ASSISTANCE - Pre-Trial - NO BAIL SET
OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE - Disposed - $10,000.00

http://sheriff.horrycounty.org/Detention/DailyBookingsandReleases.aspx

 

[EmmaRose]

I found this link to daily booking interesting as far as who has bond amounts on the new charges to date and who doesn't.

MOORER, SIDNEY STCLAIR
MYRTLE BEACH, SC 29588 AMERICAN (US) MALE 01/14/1976
38 2/21/2014 11:00:00 AM incarcerated
MURDER - NO BAIL SET
KIDNAPPING - Pre-Trial - NO BAIL SET
OBTAIN SIGNATURE OR PROP. UNDER FALSE PRETENSES, VALUE $5,000 OR MORE - Pre-Trial - $32,500.00
INDECENT EXPOSURE - Pre-Trial - $5,000.00 (2 Charges)
FALSE STATEMENT ON APPLICATION FOR MEDICAID ASSISTANCE - Pre-Trial - $32,500.00
OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE - Pre-Trial - $10,000.00



MOORER, TAMMY LORINDA
MYRTLE BEACH, SC 29588 AMERICAN (US) FEMALE 03/08/1972
42 2/21/2014 8:50:00 AM incarcerated
MURDER - NO BAIL SET
KIDNAPPING - Pre-Trial - NO BAIL SET
OBTAIN SIGNATURE OR PROP. UNDER FALSE PRETENSES, VALUE $5,000 OR MORE - Pre-Trial - NO BAIL SET
INDECENT EXPOSURE - Disposed - $5,000.00 (2 Charges)
FALSE STATEMENT ON APPLICATION FOR MEDICAID ASSISTANCE - Pre-Trial - NO BAIL SET
OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE - Disposed - $10,000.00

http://sheriff.horrycounty.org/Detention/DailyBookingsandReleases.aspx

Good Mornin' Everybody!!

I'm on the learn as I go program here regarding court ... What does disposed mean to these charges?? TIA

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Good Mornin' Everybody!!

I'm on the learn as I go program here regarding court ... What does disposed mean to these charges?? TIA

My google search says it means the case was resolved...? That is what all the results are saying.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Disposed can mean different things, maybe final in one court (bond court on 6/4/14) but not another it's transferred to. I think in TM's case it means she went before the disposition judge, Clerk Of Court C P, G S, And Family Court, and the case has been transferred from bond court to the appropriate court who handles it? Maybe she plead guilty? Her docket reads transferred from bond court to other. Check cases dated 6/4/14 at the link below. Do we have a local lawyer here?

Both SM & TM have "pre-trial" next to their bond amount or no bond amounts for those charges.

http://publicindex.sccourts.org/Horry/PublicIndex/PISearch.aspx

jmo

 

[EmmaRose]

Disposed can mean different things, maybe final in one court (bond court on 6/4/14) but not another it's transferred to. I think in TM's case it means she went before the disposition judge, Clerk Of Court C P, G S, And Family Court, and the case has been transferred from bond court to the appropriate court who handles it? Maybe she plead guilty? Her docket reads transferred from bond court to other. Check cases dated 6/4/14 at the link below. Do we have a local lawyer here?

Both SM & TM have "pre-trial" next to their bond amount or no bond amounts for those charges.

http://publicindex.sccourts.org/Horry/PublicIndex/PISearch.aspx

jmo

Thank you-now this is making more sense to me when you pointed out that a charge can be disposed of in one court, then transferred to another.

I would be scared out of my wits if I had that long list of charges looming against me. Good if they are both stewing in their own juices while sitting on their behinds in jail. They have it quite easy compared to what Heather and her family were sentenced to.

 

[Ghostwheel]

I'm thinking that since TM paid the bail (or got a bond) for the Obstruction of Justice charge, the arrest warrant is disposed. The other arrest warrants are not disposed because no bail has been paid. That is based on this South Carolina paper (page 17). It is different than other states, so it's a guess on my part.

http://www.sccourts.org/whatsnew/southcarolinacriminalruleswithrule106change.pdf

 

[geevee]

Disposed can mean different things, maybe final in one court (bond court on 6/4/14) but not another it's transferred to. I think in TM's case it means she went before the disposition judge, Clerk Of Court C P, G S, And Family Court, and the case has been transferred from bond court to the appropriate court who handles it? Maybe she plead guilty? Her docket reads transferred from bond court to other. Check cases dated 6/4/14 at the link below. Do we have a local lawyer here?

Both SM & TM have "pre-trial" next to their bond amount or no bond amounts for those charges.

http://publicindex.sccourts.org/Horry/PublicIndex/PISearch.aspx

jmo

Yes, if you look on the index it shows each charge as Transferred from Bond Court and Pending for General Sessions.

 

[CHERIE.T]

I think fraud is a way of life for them, so that it did not even occur to them to take precautions about it, while planning a greater crime.

How sad and abnormal is that? Didn't these two ever think about the ramifications of their wrong doings?

 

[geevee]

Apparently TM had a preliminary hearing for the fraud and medicare charges set for 7/18 but was cancelled (as best I can make out from the Public Index site):

Central Jury Court 2014A2610700585 Y Associated by Case Transfer 06/16/2014 07/18/2014 Cancelled Preliminary Hearing Cancelled
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Sid's 'Associated Cases' tab is unclickable so can't tell if he had a hearing set, there's no indictment listed for his similar fraud/medicare charges that I can find.

 

[stillwatersc]

10 years for food stamp fraud!!

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/loca...ing-for-taking-47000-in-food-stamps/22608787/

 

[PeterThomasFan]

Apparently TM had a preliminary hearing for the fraud and medicare charges set for 7/18 but was cancelled (as best I can make out from the Public Index site):

Central Jury Court 2014A2610700585 Y Associated by Case Transfer 06/16/2014 07/18/2014 Cancelled Preliminary Hearing Cancelled
--

Sid's 'Associated Cases' tab is unclickable so can't tell if he had a hearing set, there's no indictment listed for his similar fraud/medicare charges that I can find.

I guess they are just going to forget about these charges? :notgood:

 

[stillwatersc]

IMO the fraud charges will catch up with them. SC does prosecute!

http://www.scnow.com/messenger/news/article_2630d0ec-2fd5-11e5-8d5f-f3c8406bd9bb.html

Under the South Carolina SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) - Prosecution Pilot Program, a grant from the U.S. Department of Agriculture provides funding for a DSS investigator to look into allegations of food stamp fraud and a dedicated prosecutor in the Attorney General’s Office to prosecute these cases.

http://www.scnow.com/messenger/article_4c452a64-481a-11e5-b107-bfe7fe25991c.html

State Attorney General Alan Wilson announced Friday a Darlington Grand Jury returned indictments on Thursday for 15 Darlington County residents.

The indictments mark the second batch of Darlington County residents charged with food stamp fraud since July, when a grand jury indicted 14 on the same charge.

AFAIK, the food stamps are a rumor, but the M's were obviously playing the system with 'under the table' income and living large. If they had food stamps, the state knows about it.

 

[stillwatersc]

All the Moorers' charges are still pending. Wheels of justice turn slowly.



http://publicindex.sccourts.org/Hor...0586&CaseType=C&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

 

[stillwatersc]

http://www.scnow.com/news/local/article_65aa52f4-e32e-11e5-92c9-0f68de6be74b.html

The U.S. Department of Agriculture provided funding for the Attorney General’s Office in a grant last year totaling $318,840. That grant created a joint partnership between the Attorney General’s Office and the Department of Social Services with a goal to prevent food stamp fraud in the state. The USDA grant also helped establish a Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) criminal prosecution unit. The Department of Social Services investigates potential SNAP fraud crimes and the Attorney General’s Office prosecutes those cases.

Anyone who knows or suspects someone is committing food stamp fraud is asked to report it to a special tip line at 1-800-616-1309.

SHOUT OUT to anyone who has witnessed the M's use SNAP! :wave::wave:

 

[MommyPlatt]

OMG

"Murder charges dismissed against Tammy and Sidney Moorer in Heather Elvis case"

http://wpde.com/news/local/murder-c...tammy-and-sidney-moorer-in-heather-elvis-case

 

[Dixie E]

OMG

"Murder charges dismissed against Tammy and Sidney Moorer in Heather Elvis case"

http://wpde.com/news/local/murder-c...tammy-and-sidney-moorer-in-heather-elvis-case

Not at all what we were hoping to happen. Since they were dismissed, does that mean that they could be charged with murder later if enough evidence is found? Not a happy camper here. I wonder what her parents are thinking at this point. I guess the big T will be exploding up social media on this new development.

 

[Dixie E]

This is not at all what we have been looking for. Can they still file murder charges if there is more evidence found? I wonder what Heather`s parents are thinking at this time. I guess Tammy will be exploding up Social Media with this one.

 

[Surfside]

Not at all what we were hoping to happen. Since they were dismissed, does that mean that they could be charged with murder later if enough evidence is found? Not a happy camper here. I wonder what her parents are thinking at this point. I guess the big T will be exploding up social media on this new development.

There is no statute of limitations on murder. As sick as this is making me, I'm finding solace in that. I'm guessing the state doesn't feel good about its chances with a jury. If they go to trial and are found not guilty, double jeopardy would come into play if new evidence is ever discovered.

 

[razzledazzle]

Honestly, I'm not surprised by this. Especially since they let them move out of state.

 

[1&2&3]

What!!! After reading the article twice, there were no reasons given why all charges were dismissed.

After all the time, research, and evidence LE had, was there just no conclusive evidence that these two actually did one thing that they had been charged with?

What went astray in this case? I feel for Heather's family.