GUILTY GA - Diane McIver, 63, fatally shot, Atlanta, 25 Sept 2016

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  • #141
Thanks......you know, I just remembered something interesting, one of the articles i posted said that TM was upset/bothered/distraught over the relationship of him and BC going downhill after Diane died.............................WELL DUH..............now this to ME, sounds selfish and psychopathic.......I mean what did he expect?..........Any other way to view that??

IIRC, I read that in a newspaper article or it was in one of the video broadcast, I will look back for it.
 
  • #142
OK, I rmember this article, may have posted this one too..

probably angry AND upset

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Rucker asked Corey to describe his relationship with Tex McIver.

“He represented us in some labor law,” Corey said. “He was Diane’s husband. We frequently visited with each other.”

Defense attorney Stephen Maples also questioned Hugh, who has done work for the McIvers and Corey for years.

Maples noted that Hugh had regular access to the condo. He asked Hugh if he was aware that Corey was “very angry” at Tex McIver over the death of his wife.

“He was upset,” Hugh said.

http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-ne...il-questions-over-gun/AUxhOGiPC3VCCMeBSs6apN/


IIRC, I read that in a newspaper article or it was in one of the video broadcast, I will look back for it.
 
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A longtime lawman, Sills - who is not involved in the Atlanta police probe - believes the shooting was not deliberate. After Diane died, Sills said, he checked sheriff’s department records about calls to the farm. There were three – one a false alarm triggered by a faulty security system, another concerning a motorist who drove into the McIvers’ fence and the third involving an elderly woman who had a seizure during a party at the home.
“I certainly think it’s an accident, based on what I know,” said Sills. Like others, he spoke as if the two are still united. “They are very happily married, very dedicated to each other.”

http://www.ajc.com/news/mciver-shooting-tale-love-class-race/cYNAsqLxGgHIu0FynTS2BL/
 
  • #145
I think the defense atty's were trying to place blame on Billy COrey and his employee Hugh?? saying they had tried to framed TM and had placed the gun in TM condo sock drawer but dont think that panned out becuase BC had the gun with him that diane had gifted him and they defense was trying to say that Hugh or someone that worked for BC had regular access to the condo and had been there sometimes that week or days before the gun was found in the sock drawer

The gun in the sock drawer was registered to TM brother in TX

However I wouldn't put anything past ANYONE at this point..............it's UGLY

so with that said, I think the defense was fishing for this guy to say that BC was so angry he'd do something of that nature, but Im sure he was mad AND very upset

OK, I rmember this article, may have posted this one too..

probably angry AND upset

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Rucker asked Corey to describe his relationship with Tex McIver.

“He represented us in some labor law,” Corey said. “He was Diane’s husband. We frequently visited with each other.”

Defense attorney Stephen Maples also questioned Hugh, who has done work for the McIvers and Corey for years.

Maples noted that Hugh had regular access to the condo. He asked Hugh if he was aware that Corey was “very angry” at Tex McIver over the death of his wife.

“He was upset,” Hugh said.

http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-ne...il-questions-over-gun/AUxhOGiPC3VCCMeBSs6apN/
 
  • #146
WOW, interesting this came up on some other searches for something completely different ............dont know if related, just thought I'd share

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...ision making, need more funding in that area.
 
  • #147
A longtime lawman, Sills

SS may not have been a go to person for DM, since he and TM were friends, and we don't know how much time they spent at the ranch alone, seems like they usually had company there, parties, social events, etc...may have kept disagreements low key.
 
  • #148
Yeaaahh, that's kind of what I was thinking, dont want their dirty laundry aired..........keep up the facade.........Might be right, I am on the fence with anything to do with SS but i do think he'd have been fair but going to him may not have felt comfortable if there was a problem

That was a good article...I did wonder in the beginning about alzheimers, or dementia coming on but so many things were done wrong, meant to experiment with how this could have played out with him in the backseat.. IDK Im sure we are getting some spins but his interview in the jail gave me the creeps....I think after something like that I couldn't have looked so well kempt and sane as he did and without emotion

Also after reading some things, I found there was NOT a demonstration just some homeless people milling about, not BLM demonstration as he first spoke of.........BUT if you are concerned, you don't go to sleep with a gun in your hand, wasn't he on some committee against Gun violence............and then there is his 90's case of shooting at kids on his lawn or something crazy



A longtime lawman, Sills

SS may not have been a go to person for DM, since he and TM were friends, and we don't know how much time they spent at the ranch alone, seems like they usually had company there, parties, social events, etc...may have kept disagreements low key.
 
  • #149
OH OH Looky what I found

Wondered where this new will information started............apparently a witness discussed this "new will" before a grand jury

Rachel Styles, Diane McIver's former bookkeeper. and she also planned Diane and TEx's 2005 wedding.....there it is, they've been married 11 year............Is that enough time for the fun to be over?

Days before the search, Styles told a grand jury that Diane McIver had asked her to make three copies of a document she identified as her "new will," according to motions the DA's office has filed in county probate court.

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http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id...d-Documents-in-Search?slreturn=20170430072152

SO NOW, more questions........who has the other copies? When did Diane have STyles make copies, was it days before her death or months or years before her death? I think this will be quite telling.........it could have been recorded but then there is no privacy AND if you had a will your husband doesnt know about, you wouldnt want it recorded..........so if there IS a more current will of DM, Was this the reason for his quick estate sell? To find the will in her belongings??

THERE IS WAY more to this story...................she had the means, HE DID N OT, he RETIRED AS PLANNED dec 31 2016 after her death..............after he had postponed his retirement to 2017 in which time the loan of $ approx 350k to DM was also DUE and this loan had been extended from a due date of 2015 originally
http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id...-Witness-McIvers-Slain-Wife-Had-a-Second-Will

AAAHH, so many questions..........Just stumbled upon this info just now and so I guess that squelches that it was just a rumor


Additionally, this old or original will………says to pay her debts as soos as PRACTICAL! Not as soon as possible………….i’d say he jumped the gun, no pun intended, he was in a hurry for some reason, knowing he was under investigation, there must’ve been some ulterior motive IMO……….was it to find a will maybe he had heard about or suspected? I turned my house upside down a few months ago trying to find our wills………long story after someone cleaned my basement out subsequently the dang file cabinet too………sooo, seems he turned that one upside down too
http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id...-Witness-McIvers-Slain-Wife-Had-a-Second-Will

YEP, here’s more:
On April 11, Styles told the grand jury that, a year before her husband shot her, Diane McIver asked the bookkeeper to make three copies of the document, telling Styles, "That's my new will," prosecutors said in probate court papers.
Prosecutors said they also have "strong reason" to believe that Tex McIver—a former partner at Atlanta's Fisher & Phillips—found the new will in a search of his wife's office after he shot her.


Prosecutors said they have also learned that, immediately after Diane McIver died, her husband searched and cleared his wife's office of all personal documents, including the suspected second will—a contention that McIver's and the estate's counsel vehemently deny.
Based on that grand jury testimony, prosecutors petitioned the county probate judge to order McIver to produce the suspected second will and hold him in criminal contempt if he doesn't.
 
  • #150
A longtime lawman, Sills

SS may not have been a go to person for DM, since he and TM were friends, and we don't know how much time they spent at the ranch alone, seems like they usually had company there, parties, social events, etc...may have kept disagreements low key.

Just thinking, DM wouldnt have gone to SS anyway, probalby on HER friends and colleagues but wer'er not hearing anyting of abuse or unhappiness........but because there were no domestic abuse or calls doesnt mean he didnt snap....I was watching a case on Netflix and the cops and some friends had NO IDEA this guy, this firend of theirs was a big pedophile and he was a catholic priest, true story...........jsut because someone is an atty doesnt make them 100% sane or non psychopathic, rather, on the contrary
 
  • #151
WOW...and more items may be up for auction in the near future.......

Ahlers & Ogletree declined to disclose the total sales of the McIver estate, but Rickenbaker reports the overall sale grossed $1.1 million.
https://www.racked.com/2017/2/7/14453678/diane-mciver-auction-murder'

Diane Mciver told surgeon that shooting was accident

http://www.myajc.com/news/breaking-...shooting-was-accident/XCB18uRDKT5KaLqQ7mfzWM/

McIver's atty files motion of innocence

http://www.11alive.com/news/local/t...n-citing-new-evidence-of-innocence-/450576560
 
  • #152
Either she was VERY Naive.................or he's not guilty of malice...................................more on Tex leading the witnesses....that's a lot.............................. but at trial will there be enough to convict him.....or will the jury see that he's a slick willy but you c an't convict on a notion but evidence............right? What would it take?

http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-ne...ex-mciver-wife-murder/1VkBVpEb3UZPBODiqhG1WN/


WOW...and more items may be up for auction in the near future.......

Ahlers & Ogletree declined to disclose the total sales of the McIver estate, but Rickenbaker reports the overall sale grossed $1.1 million.
https://www.racked.com/2017/2/7/14453678/diane-mciver-auction-murder'

Diane Mciver told surgeon that shooting was accident

http://www.myajc.com/news/breaking-...shooting-was-accident/XCB18uRDKT5KaLqQ7mfzWM/

McIver's atty files motion of innocence

http://www.11alive.com/news/local/t...n-citing-new-evidence-of-innocence-/450576560
 
  • #153
http://www.telemundoamarillo.com/story/36540789/tex-mciver-back-in-court-for-pre-motion-hearing

McIver faces murder and influencing witness charges in the death of his wife Diane. However, McIver's attorneys asked Judge Robert Mcburney to approve a motion that would allow McIver be tried on the three counts of influencing witness charges during a separate trial.

Both sides each finished up their argument accusing prosecutors of illegally obtaining search warrants. Judge Mcburney hasn't made a decision on either motion. The next court date for McIver is October 12.
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Wonder what that would do to this case if "influencing witnesses" was left out? Seems pertinent to me
 
  • #154
http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/tex-mciver-in-court-10-12-17

Witness takes the stand and discusses Tex's shooting incident in his neighborhood 28 years ago and that he shot at them then shot at the car driving away but charges were dropped but McIver paid for damages

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Defense also wants this thrown out before trial stating it's against the law and too old
 
  • #155
This bothers me

Diane McIver handed him the weapon and "he configured the weapon in the bag, but did not remove it from the plastic bag".

TM passed the polygraph and examiner stated that this report supported TM denial of willful OR RECKLESS conduct in teh discharge of the weapon (which was a REVOLVER , does this require pulling the hammer back first? and See first sentence....configured gun in bag)

Well..that has to be a llie, he was RECKLESS wasn't he?

http://www.11alive.com/news/local/r...mciver-took-after-shooting-his-wife/339925661
 
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WHOA! Something's up! Good thing they postponed the trial til March huh?! Looks like this may even affect the March trial date. Maples, Tex's long time friend and atty withdrew along with William Hill atty....Bruce Harvey sole atty left on the case but who may have more experience. Either the two that withdrew could not control Tex or weren't giving him advice and not paying close enough attention to the case, in regards to Tex's action in auction etc...some believe this change may be good for his case.. No reason was given for the atty's departure however ....tho others say it could be the money, he's already paid approx 500k in atty fees and Harvey had said he'd work for free when he first came aboard.....Tex can't come up with the 75k bond to even get out of jail...so this could be the only factor.
Interesting...
Will have to catch up with posts on this case.

"Defense attorneys withdraw from McIver case"

http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-ne...draw-from-mciver-case/dipgsveJfga9KGwsP9j0gP/
 
  • #158
Interesting information from this article and interview a year ago....

http://www.myajc.com/news/ajc-exclu...olice-probe-continues/gLfzwxehiB0TE8ijmqcOVP/

"His attorney, Stephen Maples, has said that McIver accidentally pulled the trigger and that the gun did not go off for some other mysterious reason."

"He (Tex Mciver) did say he was unaware whether the hammer on the pistol, which was wrapped in a plastic bag, was cocked.or not"

And above post it stated that McIver "configured the gun in the plastic bag"

My question is if he didnt know if the hammer was cocked as he states and it was in a plastic bag and it was configured (does that mean finger on the trigger or just holding it properly, not upside down or whatever) then why would his finger BE ON THE Trigger at all and how easy is it to get your finger on the trigger while it's in a plastic bag

Would that require some great effort in addition to if the gun was not cocked.....?? And if it was, you still gotta find the trigger IN A BAG, or was he already set to fire, with hammer cocked (he'd have to know that part right?)


"On that point, McIver and Maples explained that he suffers from a sleep disorder, but would not detail it further. McIver himself noted he has taken Melatonin for it, an over-the-counter remedy said to help people sleep."

OMG, is this a joke? So.... sleep disorder or not able to sleep disorder? Did he take a melatonin, a natural remedy I might add that doesn't leave you drugged out and knocked out....when they left the Ranch in Putnam county knowing he would be asleep in an hour? Or did he take it after they left the restaurant? WHY? Why ? There is luggage to haul upstairs.when you get home....so Likely he did not.......and many people take melatonin and seratonin, it's not a big deal...........sounds like an excuse or a defense rather....

I initially thought there is no way he could plan for their early exit off the Interstate into an area he claimed was shady.....but read elsewhere Diane travels that route often......and Dani Jo said there were people here and there but no rallies or anything

..but then I remembered the gun was in the console wrapped in a plastic bag already...................from day one I asked WHY was it wrapped in a bag and why did he never remove it from the bag while in the backseat if he was so afraid and ready to kill? To hide fingerprints and gunshot residue on his person after firing?

and

IT was THERE AND READY WHEN THE TIME WAS RIGHT?



Not to mention if you are so afraid or suspicious, sleeping through it tells me you werent too afraid of that area, so what? Pretend to sleep and fire that shot..............claim it just "went off"

and not to forget, early on , he told Dani Jo to tell authorities she wasn't there when it happened , Ill find the link

But he'll probably walk, he's an atty who knows how these things work and there will be some who will find "beyond a reasonable doubt" I imagine........................I dont know what that would be, anything That I found that was a doubt, later found it to be on the contrary

I even question the will.............why was her best friend not named, why was her God son not named whom she loved dearly, what about her long time secretary who said she filed or copied her "new will" as stated by Diane when she requested her to file or copy it.....and lastly why had Diane NOT yet signed the papers to name TEX as heir to her half of the putnam estate that she wished to go to her GOd son but TEX had signed it..

THen she is shot by her husband
 
  • #159
McIver would not address exactly how the pistol fired, sending the fatal bullet through the leather passenger seat into his wife’s back. He did say he was unaware whether the hammer on the pistol, which was wrapped in a plastic bag, was cocked.
Interesting information from this article and interview a year ago....

http://www.myajc.com/news/ajc-exclu...olice-probe-continues/gLfzwxehiB0TE8ijmqcOVP/

"His attorney, Stephen Maples, has said that McIver accidentally pulled the trigger and that the gun did not go off for some other mysterious reason."

"He (Tex Mciver) did say he was unaware whether the hammer on the pistol, which was wrapped in a plastic bag, was cocked.or not"

And above post it stated that McIver "configured the gun in the plastic bag"

My question is if he didnt know if the hammer was cocked as he states and it was in a plastic bag and it was configured (does that mean finger on the trigger or just holding it properly, not upside down or whatever) then why would his finger BE ON THE Trigger at all and how easy is it to get your finger on the trigger while it's in a plastic bag

Would that require some great effort in addition to if the gun was not cocked.....?? And if it was, you still gotta find the trigger IN A BAG, or was he already set to fire, with hammer cocked (he'd have to know that part right?)


"On that point, McIver and Maples explained that he suffers from a sleep disorder, but would not detail it further. McIver himself noted he has taken Melatonin for it, an over-the-counter remedy said to help people sleep."

OMG, is this a joke? So.... sleep disorder or not able to sleep disorder? Did he take a melatonin, a natural remedy I might add that doesn't leave you drugged out and knocked out....when they left the Ranch in Putnam county knowing he would be asleep in an hour? Or did he take it after they left the restaurant? WHY? Why ? There is luggage to haul upstairs.when you get home....so Likely he did not.......and many people take melatonin and seratonin, it's not a big deal...........sounds like an excuse or a defense rather....

I initially thought there is no way he could plan for their early exit off the Interstate into an area he claimed was shady.....but read elsewhere Diane travels that route often......and Dani Jo said there were people here and there but no rallies or anything

..but then I remembered the gun was in the console wrapped in a plastic bag already...................from day one I asked WHY was it wrapped in a bag and why did he never remove it from the bag while in the backseat if he was so afraid and ready to kill? To hide fingerprints and gunshot residue on his person after firing?

and

IT was THERE AND READY WHEN THE TIME WAS RIGHT?



Not to mention if you are so afraid or suspicious, sleeping through it tells me you werent too afraid of that area, so what? Pretend to sleep and fire that shot..............claim it just "went off"

and not to forget, early on , he told Dani Jo to tell authorities she wasn't there when it happened , Ill find the link

But he'll probably walk, he's an atty who knows how these things work and there will be some who will find "beyond a reasonable doubt" I imagine........................I dont know what that would be, anything That I found that was a doubt, later found it to be on the contrary

I even question the will.............why was her best friend not named, why was her God son not named whom she loved dearly, what about her long time secretary who said she filed or copied her "new will" as stated by Diane when she requested her to file or copy it.....and lastly why had Diane NOT yet signed the papers to name TEX as heir to her half of the putnam estate that she wished to go to her GOd son but TEX had signed it..

THen she is shot by her husband
 
  • #160
He said he is in good financial shape. In documents from his 2000 divorce, his first wife estimated that he had income of around $600,000 a year, which includes $425,000 from his law practice.

Both he and Diane had undergone difficult divorces where money had become an issue. They largely kept their finances separate, he said.

“I never asked what she earned,” McIver said. “It didn’t make any difference. I loved her for what she was, and she didn’t ask me.”

http://www.myajc.com/news/ajc-exclu...olice-probe-continues/gLfzwxehiB0TE8ijmqcOVP/


Well hello, she wasn't a teller at McDonalds!! He didnt have to ask what her income was....LOL

and IIRC, she owned the condo, he bought one next door and they combined them............that doesnt quite exactly keep your finances separate

and

he added her to the putan ranch deed after they married and spent their money and her $350k he still owed her to build the guest quarters and maybe barns, thats not quite keeping your finances separate either, but the article did say "largely" but he knew what she had or he would never have borrowed a 1/3 of a million from her
 
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