GUILTY GA - Jorelys Rivera, 7, Canton, 2 Dec 2011 - #1

[Wise Old Owl]

I do too kat. And I'm still leaning toward a maintenance worker. Just wonder if they gave the maintenace guys breaks on rent for working there - so they could stay on site. The maintenance guys at the place I was didn't live there.

But you're right - I got the feeling this guy is gonna get caught. He was sloppy. LE has a TON of evidence - including DNA. She was found pretty quick so any DNA on her that matches the creep will put him away for good.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Possibly - the "ladies of the evening" were using the vacant apts in the complex we were in. DH used to see them leaving in the morning when he left for work (he leaves approx 5:30AM).

Or it could be someone that does live there in another building and knew about the vacant apts - so he didn't have far to go to commit his crime and probably thought no one would even think about him.

Who knows anymore? Its sickening. Cameras, cameras, cameras - and now they are fairly cheap - I put them on my house (2) for under $100.

Why would there be a mattress in a vacant apt?Unless someone was living in there?Not renting it.

 

[Kat]

Ladies of the evening would want to use a mattress for their "work" if they can I would assume?

ETA: or is it possible that someone was recently evicted and their belongings not removed as of yet?

 

[mck16]

Why would there be a mattress in a vacant apt?Unless someone was living in there?Not renting it.

The mattress could have been left behind when the previous tenant moved out. I wonder if the apt. was left unlocked. Even if vacant I would think it would be kept locked. jmo

 

[Dr. Know?]

I'm still leaning towards a maintenance guy. Anyone else would be noticed moving a bed into a vacant apartment. (calculated & planned) No one would think twice of the maintenance dude doing it though.

Or this could have been a furnished or partially furnished unit? Nah, I'm still going with my gut here.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Was anyone looking like a homeless person just hanging around the last few weeks or months around there?

 

[Donjeta]

Maybe that's one of the reasons LE thinks this was planned ahead of time.

Yeah...

Otherwise it could have been that someone first took her to his own apartment to rape but didn't want to bloody up his own place and moved her and the mattress that was probably ruined with her blood on it to the vacant place. I wonder if anybody was seen buying a new mattress.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

The mattress could have been left behind when the previous tenant moved out. I wonder if the apt. was left unlocked. Even if vacant I would think it would be kept locked. jmo

The maintence men and apt complex office will usually clean that all out and lock it up.

 

[revampz]

hi all...I read through this yesterday but did not post. I could not stop thinking about it last night. It is sick that these guys rape these children and alot of the children are then murdered so they dont speak, but this sick critter beat this little girl as well, yester4day they reported she was brutally disfigured!!!!! they HAVE to catch him, this is pure evil.

What is also troubling to me is that this hasnt even made our news over here. Up until about 6 months ago the disappearance/and or murder of a child made our australian news, but now it is such a common occurrence in the US and here in australia our murders in general have skyrocketed............scary

 

[Wise Old Owl]

It is just very odd to leave a vacant apt unlocked (unsecure). When we went in that one next door - it was such a weird, creepy feeling. ALL the appliances were gone - just big holes where the stove, refridge and microwave were. The folding door for the "laundry" (there were stackables in each unit) was off and, of course the unit was gone. There were beer bottles (not a lot) and a couple of empty liquor bottles. All the walls were flithy and the carpet was disgusting.

As for the mattress - could have been left - could have been brought in. Kinda easy to do late late at night if you bring it through the back - like what was shown on HLN.

Its the no cameras that get me. They are so necessary in places like this. My vehicle was hit in the middle of the night - alarm went off. The girls in the next building over came and got us and we ended up catching the guy. Yes, he lived there too.

I just hate these places. I call them "birdhouses". Down here they are nothing but dens for criminals, havens for the homeless and free joints for the hookers. But that's JMHO.

 

[revampz]

one other thing, yesterday it was reported that the teenage babysitter was with friends.....does anyone know if this was the case or was she alone???? It may be important if some of her friends were male.

 

[Etilema]

I did not say she was 'forbidden' from entering the apartment. But Mom says she did not even see her 7 yr old since the night before. So that tells me that the child did not go home after school and check in with mom. I am not trying to blame the mother, just wondering out loud if the kids were free to go inside and stay while mom was sleeping before work. And 5:30 is not that warm in December. And I think most 7 yr olds and 4 yr olds and 1 yr olds would be tired and want to be inside at that time. I got the feeling from the descriptions we read that the kids were expected to stay outside so mom could sleep. I could be wrong, which is why I said it was something I hoped was not true.

They said mom had not seen her because she was sleeping. There was a report that the babysitter had seen her in the house getting the drinks (implying that the babysitter was not at the playground, but in the apartment). But I am not sure what may just be a matter if faulty reporting and what's accurate.

 

[Annette73]

I will post a few links to Puerto Rico news with English translations, they have been interviewing family members including the mom (before she identified the body):

http://www.primerahora.com/mamadejorelyspresientequeelcuerpohalladoeseldesunina-589315.html

Mother of Jorelys has a feeling that the found body is her girl

Tuesday, 6 of December of 2011 11:53 a.m.

“My mother’s heart says to me that the girl found is Jorelys”. She has not yet gone to recognize the body of a girl who appeared disfigured, struck and with signs of sexual abuse inside a garbage container, in events that happened in Georgia, but her maternal instinct says to Joselyn Rivera that it is small Jorelys, seven years old, who authorities have been searching for since past Friday. In a telephone interview with Primera Hora, the woman spoke about her agony during the past days, since her girl disappeared in a play area of the complex of houses River Ridge in the city of Corner, in Georgia. “It has been horrible… right now I am preparing myself to go to recognize the small body of the baby in Forensic Sciences. I have not seen it, but my heart says that the baby is Jorelys that was found”, said Joselyn, that during this morning was to complete the identification process and to know the results of the autopsy that was done to the minor yesterday. “The only thing that I have to say to the person who did this, who did this to my angel, is that this person will pay and that I hope that all the justice falls over him”, said the mother, who has other two children of four and one years of age. These minors remain under the safekeeping of the equivalent to the Department of the Family, in Georgia, as a preventive measure, even though the mother has not been tied to the crime. Joselyn was sad that the body of her daughter could not be buried in the Island (Puerto Rico), because she will have to remain in Georgia as part of the investigation process, even though the girl’s family in the town of Peñuelas PR has expressed that they have already started to make arrangements to transfer the body of the girl to Puerto Rico. Jorelys lived with her mother and little sisters. The secretary of the Department of the Family in Puerto Rico, Yanitsia Irizarry, repudiated the murder of the small one. “The cruel murder of the girl of seven years that was found yesterday after her disappearance the past Friday, is repudiable. We cannot be lenient before mistreatment of minors. We insist on our crusade to continue spreading the message to eradicate this social evil”, said Irizarry Méndez. The Secretary is hopeful that the authorities manage to find the person or persons responsible for the murder of the small one and that all the weight of the law falls upon him or them.

 

[bunky]

I pray this monster is arrested asap. Hearing the few details about what he/she did to Jorely make me ill.

 

[Minette]

http://www.ajc.com/news/cherokee/canton-girl-died-of-1252353.html

A 7-year-old Canton girl whose body was discovered Monday died of blunt force trauma to the head and stab wounds, the GBI said Tuesday. Jorelys Rivera had also been sexually assaulted, GBI Director Vernon Keenan said at a press conference in Canton.

 

[katydid23]

They said mom had not seen her because she was sleeping. There was a report that the babysitter had seen her in the house getting the drinks (implying that the babysitter was not at the playground, but in the apartment). But I am not sure what may just be a matter if faulty reporting and what's accurate.

I know that mom was sleeping, but that is what kind of bothers me. She gets home from work at 7 am. So why does she need to be asleep still at 5:30 pm?

I know people who work all night shifts. I know it is hard. But she has 3 young children. So by 5:30 pm she needs to be awake for them to be inside the home. She can sleep until 3 and still be awake when her kids come from school each day. imoo

The daughter apparently got 4 coca colas at 5 pm. Were the 4 yr old and one yr old going to have a coke at 5 pm? There are things about this home situation that are really bugging me, sorry.

 

[Kat]

JVM is going to cover Jorelys.

 

[Kat]

Parents ruled out as suspects in this case (JVM).

 

[Etilema]

I know that mom was sleeping, but that is what kind of bothers me. She gets home from work at 7 am. So why does she need to be asleep still at 5:30 pm?

I know people who work all night shifts. I know it is hard. But she has 3 young children. So by 5:30 pm she needs to be awake for them to be inside the home. She can sleep until 3 and still be awake when her kids come from school each day. imoo

The daughter apparently got 4 coca colas at 5 pm. Were the 4 yr old and one yr old going to have a coke at 5 pm? There are things about this home situation that are really bugging me, sorry.

True, it may not be the ideal home life, but if the supervision had been what it should be, it doesn't seem so outrageous that she would have a babysitter for those hours then spend the evening with them, have dinner, tuck them in, etc.

 

[Kat]

Mike Brooks: director of GBI just got to apts. Command center located there. Narrowed focus, looking at number of people being looked at. Not a matter of if but when an arrest will be made per Mike. Vacant apt in bldg right next to Jorelys. GBI processing that vacant apt.