GA - Katherine Janness, 40, fatally stabbed and dog killed, Piedmont Park, Atlanta, 28 Jul 2021 #4

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  • #841
Why? For one, it is a woman’s name, and who knows whether or not anyone of that name was known to KJ or her attacker? Also thought of the word in the context of the killer possibly having known KJ prior to their savage attack on her—maybe they had “faith“ that their path might one day intersect with KJ’s in some significant way?
All just my conjecture, of course—but I think ”faith” is no more or less far-fetched than any other suggestions made here thus far.

O/T but wanted to say that if you wish to tag another member in a post, you can just put the @ before their name and that member will be notified that someone has mentioned them.
Oh, thank you for responding and for the tip!
 
  • #842
I think it's possible F A T could mean exactly what it says. Fat, like overweight. As in the killer degrading KJ just like he did to her face, tattoo, etc. Her actually BMI has nothing to do with it. It's just derogatory and coming from a demented mind.
 
  • #843
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Attention to the depth of KJ's injuries follows, in an effort to learn details, regarding the possible weapon used. It is currently my position that Bowie's throat was slashed. I no longer feel that DNA is the reason not to release the necropsy report. This violent type of injury would cause outrage, possibly incite protests, among PETA supporters and from all dog lovers 'round the globe.

From KJ's autopsy:

Face:
less than 1/16” to 5/8” in depth

Neck:
(throat slash of jugular veins) depth is at least 1-1/4”

Chest:
at least 1/8” in depth
F = less than 1/16” to 3/16” in depth
Horizontal of the A = 1-1/8” in depth
T w/2 horizontal injuries = depth is 1/4” to 1-1/8”
injury from xiphoid process to mons pubic = depth is at least 2”

Back:
Rt side = depth is at least 5/8”
7/8" from midline = depth is at least 1-1/2”
5 sharp force wounds = depth of a least 2”
Lt side = depth is at least 7/8”
Lt side = depth is at least 3/4”
Lower back w/ 15 injuries = 3/16” to 3/4” in depth
Straight wound from natal cleft = depth of at least 2-1/4”

Extremities:
Lt hand = depth of 3/16”
Lt hand = depth is 1/8”
Thumb = less than 1/16” in depth
Palm = 1/4” in depth
Lt middle finger = depth of 1/8”
Rt ring finger = depth of at least 1/4”
Rt forearm = depth of 1/8”
Rt wrist = 3/16” in depth

The deepest cut is appx 2-1/4" which tells me the knife did not have a long blade. The image is of a military grade knife with a sharp tip or spear point. Having the knife's ring worn on the second finger and gripped with remaining fingers provides precision control.


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Spear Point Blades - Items tagged as "Karambit" A spear point is a symmetrical pointed blade with a point that is in line with the center axis. The symmetrical shape gives them a very balanced feel and edge which excels at EDC (Everyday Carry) tasks as well as slicing and stabbing strikes.

(Retractable) Blade Length: 3.25"

ALP Vulcanite Black and Silver Karambit Style OTF Automatic Switchblade with Rubberized Grip 3.25

https://static.fox5atlanta.com/www.fox5atlanta.com/content/uploads/2021/11/Katie-Janness-Autopsy.pdf
(This is moo and was difficult research so I shall take a decompression break.)
 
  • #844
Moo..that is interesting..lots of shallow slices. Although that is a cool knife DeDee i think your basic box cutter could do the same. I have quite a few box cutters? Some are like switch blades also there is a variety of blade types available. Moo
 
  • #845
Moo..that is interesting..lots of shallow slices. Although that is a cool knife DeDee i think your basic box cutter could do the same. I have quite a few box cutters? Some are like switch blades also there is a variety of blade types available. Moo
After reading the autopsy report, i wondered if the killer maybe didn't use both a strong knife and a box cutter .
 
  • #846
I think it's possible F A T could mean exactly what it says. Fat, like overweight. As in the killer degrading KJ just like he did to her face, tattoo, etc. Her actually BMI has nothing to do with it. It's just derogatory and coming from a demented mind.
I agree about the letters meaning: fat. As if he or she hadn’t done enough damage to Katie’s body already. And the killer is a sociopath— someone who wanted the murder to look like a serial killer’s work. If Katie wasn’t targeted, wouldn’t there have been another murder by now? imo.
 
  • #847
Her other animals names were Fig And Tori. FAT. Not saying that is the reasoning behind it, but it’s coincidental.
 
  • #848
Her other animals names were Fig And Tori. FAT. Not saying that is the reasoning behind it, but it’s coincidental.
Wow that is very interesting imo
 
  • #849
Her other animals names were Fig And Tori. FAT. Not saying that is the reasoning behind it, but it’s coincidental.
Thanks for the reminder!

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Cat Leigh
Mar 19
''Katherine Janness, better known as Katie, was a 40-year-old woman from Atlanta, Georgia. She lived with her partner of seven years, Emma Clark, and their three pets — Tori, Fig, and Bowie.''

''Well known in the Midtown Atlanta community, Katie was a bartender at Campagnolo, an Italian restaurant/bar, and worked at a local improv theatre. She would often go for walks in Piedmont Park while listening to podcasts. Athough Emma had suggested she carry pepper spray, Katie insisted she felt safe.''

2021
''Friends and residents would often see Katie walking her dog around the neighborhood.
"We just talk, sit down after work. It’s just hard to believe that she’s gone," said friend Corey Briscoe.
Briscoe is one of the many people who would see Katie walking her dog around the neighborhood and would often see her come into the Pet Set, where he works.
"Yes, she loved her dog a lot. She always used to come in get a few bags of treats and everything used to talk about him," Briscoe said.''
 
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  • #850
I didn’t know about Fig and Tori. Wonder if they were from a prior relationship?
 
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  • #852
* Fair Warning *

* Sensitive Material*


* Stop * Scroll and Roll Time *


Attention to the depth of KJ's injuries follows, in an effort to learn details, regarding the possible weapon used. It is currently my position that Bowie's throat was slashed. I no longer feel that DNA is the reason not to release the necropsy report. This violent type of injury would cause outrage, possibly incite protests, among PETA supporters and from all dog lovers 'round the globe.

From KJ's autopsy:

Face:
less than 1/16” to 5/8” in depth

Neck:
(throat slash of jugular veins) depth is at least 1-1/4”

Chest:
at least 1/8” in depth
F = less than 1/16” to 3/16” in depth
Horizontal of the A = 1-1/8” in depth
T w/2 horizontal injuries = depth is 1/4” to 1-1/8”
injury from xiphoid process to mons pubic = depth is at least 2”

Back:
Rt side = depth is at least 5/8”
7/8" from midline = depth is at least 1-1/2”
5 sharp force wounds = depth of a least 2”
Lt side = depth is at least 7/8”
Lt side = depth is at least 3/4”
Lower back w/ 15 injuries = 3/16” to 3/4” in depth
Straight wound from natal cleft = depth of at least 2-1/4”

Extremities:
Lt hand = depth of 3/16”
Lt hand = depth is 1/8”
Thumb = less than 1/16” in depth
Palm = 1/4” in depth
Lt middle finger = depth of 1/8”
Rt ring finger = depth of at least 1/4”
Rt forearm = depth of 1/8”
Rt wrist = 3/16” in depth

The deepest cut is appx 2-1/4" which tells me the knife did not have a long blade. The image is of a military grade knife with a sharp tip or spear point. Having the knife's ring worn on the second finger and gripped with remaining fingers provides precision control.


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Defense Knives | SAGE BLADES™

Spear Point Blades - Items tagged as "Karambit" A spear point is a symmetrical pointed blade with a point that is in line with the center axis. The symmetrical shape gives them a very balanced feel and edge which excels at EDC (Everyday Carry) tasks as well as slicing and stabbing strikes.

(Retractable) Blade Length: 3.25"

ALP Vulcanite Black and Silver Karambit Style OTF Automatic Switchblade with Rubberized Grip 3.25

https://static.fox5atlanta.com/www.fox5atlanta.com/content/uploads/2021/11/Katie-Janness-Autopsy.pdf
(This is moo and was difficult research so I shall take a decompression break.)
Never seen a knife like this, but IMO it is exactly the size & style that could quickly & accurately inflict the injuries to KJ per descriptions in the autopsy report. I have to wonder if forensic LE could somehow track where this type of switchblade is sold. I feel it's a distinctive style, especially the 'ring'.
IMO, I felt something very horrific happened to Bowie when PETA did jump in almost immediately & doubled the reward that was being offered. I don't recall that ever happening before.
JMO
 
  • #853
Never seen a knife like this, but IMO it is exactly the size & style that could quickly & accurately inflict the injuries to KJ per descriptions in the autopsy report. I have to wonder if forensic LE could somehow track where this type of switchblade is sold. I feel it's a distinctive style, especially the 'ring'.
IMO, I felt something very horrific happened to Bowie when PETA did jump in almost immediately & doubled the reward that was being offered. I don't recall that ever happening before.
JMO

Thank you, AtlantaBourne. I chose that style of knife due to its sharp tip and because this victim lost so much blood, a grip on the handle with ridges could be manageable. The ring adds to precision control. I'd forgotten PETA was the org that doubled the $10k reward offered by the police dept making a reward total of $20k.

Contact the Atlanta Police Homicide Unit or Crime Stoppers at 404-577-8477 with information.
 
  • #854
Never seen a knife like this, but IMO it is exactly the size & style that could quickly & accurately inflict the injuries to KJ per descriptions in the autopsy report. I have to wonder if forensic LE could somehow track where this type of switchblade is sold. I feel it's a distinctive style, especially the 'ring'.
IMO, I felt something very horrific happened to Bowie when PETA did jump in almost immediately & doubled the reward that was being offered. I don't recall that ever happening before.
JMO
Atlanta police confirmed Bowie was stabbed to death. Reporter asked Deputy Chief Charles Hampton after the last news conference and he confirmed.
 
  • #855
Atlanta police confirmed Bowie was stabbed to death. Reporter asked Deputy Chief Charles Hampton after the last news conference and he confirmed.

I keep thinking there was more than one attacker/killer... especially with all the stabbing and mutilation.
 
  • #856
Moo ..was dog stabbed or throat cut? To hit heart you would need long blade. (I worked at vets) na fred&edna can not think of reason why 2 people would do this....moo
 
  • #857
Moo ..was dog stabbed or throat cut? To hit heart you would need long blade. (I worked at vets) na fred&edna can not think of reason why 2 people would do this....moo

I don't know why the killings would be done by more than one person but the numerous injuries inflicted (and the speed of inflicting) leans me to that reasoning. But, my thoughts could be wrong.
 
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  • #858
IMO everything that is logical, as to events, always gets negated by the timeline. That small sliver of time that we have to go by of 12:09am to 1:09am. Just 60 minutes. And of course we can narrow that 60 down to 40 minutes with locations, walking from the 12:09 picture location to CA & 10th-12 minutes plus discovering them & calling 911-7 minutes. Plus, the jogger at 12:46am knocks time down to about 25 minutes. This puts the timeline to 12:21am-12:45am. I don't know how this could have happened that quickly. Ugh.
JMOO
 
  • #859
IMO everything that is logical, as to events, always gets negated by the timeline. That small sliver of time that we have to go by of 12:09am to 1:09am. Just 60 minutes. And of course we can narrow that 60 down to 40 minutes with locations, walking from the 12:09 picture location to CA & 10th-12 minutes plus discovering them & calling 911-7 minutes. Plus, the jogger at 12:46am knocks time down to about 25 minutes. This puts the timeline to 12:21am-12:45am. I don't know how this could have happened that quickly. Ugh.
JMOO
@AtlantaBourne, thank you for piecing together such a tight timeline based on the limited information that we know. I’ve taken a pause from this case so the timeline is a little fuzzy to me right now. Would you elaborate on what you mean by “Plus, the jogger at 12:46am knocks the timeline down to about 25 minutes. This puts the timeline to 12:21am-12:45am.”

Getting a little off the timeline subject, but a couple of notable comments from previous press conferences:

1) From one of the early pressers in 2021 shortly after the murder: I don’t recall if it was the DA or former mayor who stated that apparently the killer hung around for a while after KJ murder and wasn’t in a huge hurry to leave the crime scene, as one would expect after such a horrific crime
2) The last presser on July 28, 2022 during question and answer period, Lt Jermaine Dearlove, in response to the a reporters question, if investigators believe Katie & Bowie were killed in the park or killed somewhere else and then brought to the CA entrance, he stated @ 13:09-without hesitation-“from witness statements and follow up investigations from the investigators, we believe it happened right at the entrance to the park” At that point, Deputy Charles Hampton took over the Q & A. Key words “FROM WITNESS STATEMENTS”. Did the jogger see OR hear something? Or was there another witness in the park that came forward with some kind of information?
 
  • #860
I keep thinking there was more than one attacker/killer... especially with all the stabbing and mutilation.
I am wondering this also. Especially with the horrific injuries to both her and the dog. What was the dog doing when he was stabbing her, or what was she doing when he was stabbing dog? Just doesn't make sense the dog was not defending.
 
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