GA - Katherine Janness, 40, walking dog, both fatally stabbed, Piedmont Park, Atlanta, 28 July 2021

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  • #321
How does that runner entering/exiting the park line up with the time the victim wad killed?

I think she was last spotted (i.e. the surveillance photo police released of her) 10 minutes away at 12:09. So she could have arrived at earliest at 12:19ish, maybe later if she took a detour.

The runner popped in and out at 12:45 ish.

She was discovered around 1ish by her partner (or maybe 1:10 ish).

I think the cops must have more photos they are withholding of course, so they probably know the exact time she entered.
 
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Piedmont Park stabbing | Katie Janness wife speaks about scene | 11alive.com

"The first thing I noticed is I saw Bowie," Clark explained. "He was visible from the gate of the park. He was maybe 50 feet from the gate on the inside and she was further on the right. I just ran in and I grabbed him because I didn't know, maybe he was still alive. Obviously, I knew something was wrong because he was just laying there. I didn't put two and two together because I didn't notice her right away."

"I ran up to her, I tried to feel for a pulse but it was clear that she was gone. I turned around and I just ran out of the park," she described. "It was dark, and I didn't know what was going on. I was terrified and shocked. That's when I called the cops immediately."

Clark continued by saying she didn't think Janness was targeted and described her as not the kind of person who would get in a heated argument with someone.

"She didn't have a lot of people outside of her job that she would speak to on a regular basis besides her friends," Clark said. "I just thought, maybe it was somebody who saw an opportunity. That's all I can think, I honestly don't know."
 
  • #324
So is the gate the runner is running out of in the video is the entrance in question? So the victim was killed just inside that gate? Just trying to get my bearings.
 
  • #325
So is the gate the runner is running out of in the video is the entrance in question? So the victim was killed just inside that gate? Just trying to get my bearings.

Would be great if we had a video retracing her likely route from crosswalk to where she and the dog were found... and showing both the gates. Any locals feel comfortable enough to try in daylight hours?
 
  • #326
I read that grey huze (sp?) Did a short video about this. I’ve been meaning to look it up to see if he shows the locations on a map. He is good at that.
 
  • #327
we don't really know if she was on her way out on her dog walk or had turned around and started to return home
 
  • #328
So is the gate the runner is running out of in the video is the entrance in question? So the victim was killed just inside that gate? Just trying to get my bearings.

Yes, right inside that gate was where the dog was found and then about 100 feet further was where Katie was found. It's mentioned above that the dog was easy to see from the gate by Katie's girlfriend.

To me there are now multiple possibilities with the runner. 1. He ran into the park (especially since we know there is footage of him outside the park running down 10th St. 41 seconds earlier) and turned around because of something he saw. 2. He turned around because of something he heard 3. He has an unusual running pattern where he only goes inside the park for 41 seconds and then turns around. Which seems unlikely if you're going to enter the park close to 1am. 4. The murders did not take place where the bodies were found and were later put there. Only speculation because I feel like with the timing, he would have seen something and said something.

Also, we now know he has a headlamp on which means he was able to see much better than the random lights placed along the path inside the park. I'm not even sure how many lights are on in the park that time of night, but he was definitely able to see ahead of him.
 
  • #329
Gray did a small segment on the story, too. Starts at about 7:30 (about 10 mins long). It's always helpful to see the area on Google Earth.

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I read that grey huze (sp?) Did a short video about this. I’ve been meaning to look it up to see if he shows the locations on a map. He is good at that.

At about 13:30 he pulls it up on Google Earth.

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and we don't know FOR SURE that the runner didn't run out and make a call, or that he hasn't come forward by now. (Yes, we can assume that had he made a call, it would have been reported but we don't know that for sure.)

So hard to wait for more information to be released, we are grasping at anything right now.
 
  • #332
Would be great if we had a video retracing her likely route from crosswalk to where she and the dog were found... and showing both the gates. Any locals feel comfortable enough to try in daylight hours?
Would be great if we had a video retracing her likely route from crosswalk to where she and the dog were found... and showing both the gates. Any locals feel comfortable enough to try in daylight hours?
It’s a straight shot from the crosswalk at 10th and Piedmont to the gate near where they were found at 10th and Charles Allen. It’s hard to tell which direction she’s walking from the photo of her at the crosswalk but she would have either taken 10th all the way or Piedmont to the 12th St gate and walked through the park to near Charles Allen and 10th. From gate to gate through the park it’s maybe half a mile if you follow the biggest path.
 
  • #333
Yes, right inside that gate was where the dog was found and then about 100 feet further was where Katie was found. It's mentioned above that the dog was easy to see from the gate by Katie's girlfriend.

To me there are now multiple possibilities with the runner. 1. He ran into the park (especially since we know there is footage of him outside the park running down 10th St. 41 seconds earlier) and turned around because of something he saw. 2. He turned around because of something he heard 3. He has an unusual running pattern where he only goes inside the park for 41 seconds and then turns around. Which seems unlikely if you're going to enter the park close to 1am. 4. The murders did not take place where the bodies were found and were later put there. Only speculation because I feel like with the timing, he would have seen something and said something.

Also, we now know he has a headlamp on which means he was able to see much better than the random lights placed along the path inside the park. I'm not even sure how many lights are on in the park that time of night, but he was definitely able to see ahead of him.

Is it common for runners to run through that park that late at night or is it odd?
 
  • #334
and we don't know FOR SURE that the runner didn't run out and make a call, or that he hasn't come forward by now. (Yes, we can assume that had he made a call, it would have been reported but we don't know that for sure.)

So hard to wait for more information to be released, we are grasping at anything right now.

Right. And he may have even seen the dog lying there and thought, that's not right, maybe I'll just go another way. It might not have been obvious what happened and he didn't want an injured animal to chase or attack him.
 
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Yes, right inside that gate was where the dog was found and then about 100 feet further was where Katie was found. It's mentioned above that the dog was easy to see from the gate by Katie's girlfriend.

To me there are now multiple possibilities with the runner. 1. He ran into the park (especially since we know there is footage of him outside the park running down 10th St. 41 seconds earlier) and turned around because of something he saw. 2. He turned around because of something he heard 3. He has an unusual running pattern where he only goes inside the park for 41 seconds and then turns around. Which seems unlikely if you're going to enter the park close to 1am. 4. The murders did not take place where the bodies were found and were later put there. Only speculation because I feel like with the timing, he would have seen something and said something.

Also, we now know he has a headlamp on which means he was able to see much better than the random lights placed along the path inside the park. I'm not even sure how many lights are on in the park that time of night, but he was definitely able to see ahead of him.
And from the video, he appears to be running at a normal pace, not rushing out like he's just come across a brutal crime scene. Although from the girlfriend's description, he may have only seen a dog laying there. It's strange. Do we know what time the girlfriend started pinging the phone and it was standing still?
 
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  • #336
Is it common for runners to run through that park that late at night or is it odd?
The park is technically closed at 11 PM. I do not know how many people walk or run through the park at night but I bet it is not unheard of.
 
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  • #338
no chance this empath can listen to the call. Can someone please share if there is any consequential or unreported?
 
  • #339
no chance this empath can listen to the call. Can someone please share if there is any consequential or unreported?
She hung up on the 911 operator and she was talking to someone else who saw the body.
 
  • #340
So the dog was found 100 feet from Katie - does that imply Bowie killed first, followed by Katie running away from the assailant when killed?

And how well lit is the area she was found in?
 
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