GUILTY GA - Laila Daniel, 2, beaten to death, McDonough, 17 Nov 2015 *foster parents arrested*

[MsFacetious]

Yes but they here are 49 charges. They have to consider each one separately. I expect they will not both be convicted on every count. It's a good thing that they are being thorough.

 

[MsFacetious]

I'm actually worried they will hurry a verdict due to being sequestered now.

 

[Tortoise]

Jury has finished deliberating for the night. 8pm local time.

 

[ThaCrysCat]

Judge was very strict - they sent a note asking if they could have their phones back to make calls to their families and he said no.

yep, which is why i made that comment. life is going to be difficult for most of them without their phones...

i would bet they opted to stay late so that they can get the newb up to speed and cover some ground tomorrow. i would hope they return a verdict no later than Friday.

ps- i dont believe this sequestering business will work in favor of the defense. just my .02.

 

[Robbi Wyatt]

yep, which is why i made that comment. life is going to be difficult for most of them without their phones...

i would bet they opted to stay late so that they can get the newb up to speed and cover some ground tomorrow. i would hope they return a verdict no later than Friday.

ps- i dont believe this sequestering business will work in favor of the defense. just my .02.

Especially after the defendants smirking & laughing when the judge said they couldn't have their phones back!

 

[Tortoise]

Especially after the defendants smirking & laughing when the judge said they couldn't have their phones back!

I don't think the jurors were in the courtroom because they sent a note and judge said he wouldn't write a reply, he asked the deputy to handle it.

 

[Jewels53]

Three Guilty verdicts last night for Grant Amato so praying for Guilty in the Rosenbaum Trial today!

GUILTY - FL – Chad, 59, Margaret, 61, & son, Cody Amato, 31, fatally shot by other son, Chuluota, 25 Jan 2019

 

[Jewels53]

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  #RosenbaumTrial - The jury has resumed their deliberations this morning. They deliberated approximately 10 hours yesterday. (link: https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/jennifer-and-joseph-rosenbaum/watch-live-jennifer-and-joseph-rosenbaum-tried-in-death-of-2-year-old-daughter-laila/) lawandcrime.com/live-trials/li…

 

[Wishbone]

Showing up late to this horrific trial as I was following the Amato trial. Almost feel like those murders were merciful compared to what this small child endured. Yet, death penalty was applied to amato and I don't see that here. I guess it's not as bad to torture a small child to death over several months? I'll never understand the differences in charges from one murder trial to another.....

 

[ThaCrysCat]

Showing up late to this horrific trial as I was following the Amato trial. Almost feel like those murders were merciful compared to what this small child endured. Yet, death penalty was applied to amato and I don't see that here. I guess it's not as bad to torture a small child to death over several months? I'll never understand the differences in charges from one murder trial to another.....

I was wondering the same, and the stumbled upon this:

3. Death penalty cases in Georgia have become rare.

Sentences of death must be decided by juries and must be unanimous. If a single juror opposes a death sentence, resulting in a hung jury during the trial’s penalty phase, a life sentence is issued. But, as the AJC’s Bill Rankin wrote in 2016, “prosecutors almost never seek the death penalty anymore, and juries refuse to impose it when they do.”

5 things to know: Death Row and the death penalty in Georgia

 

[Jewels53]

https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1156964891288227840/photo/1

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#RosenbaumTrial - Jury is on lunch break until 1:30. The original jury deliberated 13 hours over two days. The new jury, with the alternate replacement, deliberated 8 hours yesterday and approx. 3 hours so far today.

 

[Josephine9]

Members of the Jury, no matter how long it takes, but it must be justice for these little girls!

 

[Josephine9]

I've typed up the judge's response to the jury's question:

"The question you asked, and I’m just gonna read it, it says ‘parties to crime 30 July 19’, that’s the top, the substance of the question is ‘to be guilty as party to a crime must the defendant be present at the time of the crime? Thank you for considering this question’, and then signed by your foreperson.

And after having discussed this question with the attorneys and considering possible responses, what we want to do is direct your attention back to the charge, and in particular charges no.27, 28, 29 and 30. I’m going to read them.

No.27. Every party to a crime may be charged with and convicted of commission of the crime. A person is a party to a crime only if that person

a. Directly commits the crime,

b. Intentionally helps in the commission of the crime, or

c. Intentionally advises, encourages, hires, counsels or procures another to commit the crime.

Charge on page 28 is the charge of knowledge. Knowledge on the part of a defendant that the crime was being committed and that a defendant knowingly and intentionally participated in or helped in the commission of such crime must be proved by the state beyond a reasonable doubt. If you find from the evidence in this case that a defendant had no knowledge that a particular crime was being committed or that a defendant did not knowingly and intentionally commit, participate or help in the commission of any particular alleged offense, it will be your duty to acquit that defendant as to any such offense. On the other hand should you find beyond a reasonable doubt that a defendant had knowledge that a particular crime was being committed and that the defendant knowingly and intentionally participated or helped in the commission of it, then you would be authorized to convict that defendant.

A jury is not authorized to find a person who is merely present at the scene of the commission of a crime at the time of its perpetration guilty of consent in and concurrence in the commission of the crime, unless the evidence shows beyond a reasonable doubt that such person committed the alleged crime, helped in the actual perpetration of the crime, or participated in a criminal endeavour.

A jury is not authorized to find a person who is merely associated with other persons involved in the commission of a crime guilty of consent in or concurrence in the commission of the crime, unless the evidence shows beyond a reasonable doubt that such person helped in the actual perpetration of the crime or participated in the criminal endeavour.

So that is the set of instructions that relate to the issue that you have raised in your note and at this time I will excuse you to your jury room."


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Thanks, for your work! It helps me a lot.
Especially with Charge of knowledge.

 

[Tortoise]

I think we may have a verdict...

 

[Tortoise]

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[Jewels53]

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#RosenbaumTrial UPDATE - The jury has declined to take their break this morning and when asked at 3:30 they didn't want their afternoon break. They did, however, take a 2-hour lunch. They've been deliberating almost 6 hours today and 8 hours yesterday.

https://twitter.com/cathyrusson

 

[MsFacetious]

We have a verdict.

 

[Jewels53]

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BREAKING: A verdict has been reached in the #RosenbaumTrial . Watch Live:

 

[Tortoise]

cameras off until the jury is in the courtroom

 

[Tortoise]

local time is 4.49 pm