Fantastic. Thank you!Just started a thread..
GA - Diane Shields, 22, Georgia, strangled,beaten,body found in truck of car, 1967
Fantastic. Thank you!Just started a thread..
GA - Diane Shields, 22, Georgia, strangled,beaten,body found in truck of car, 1967
Yes, I found the grocery shopping before meeting her friend for dinner a bit odd but not off the charts crazy. If it it was stuff that needn’t be refrigerated then maybe not so odd. Now, the boss going to look for her and finding her car, now that was odd to me! If you did not show up for work would your boss leave the office and drive looking for you?does anyone find it curious that Mary went grocery shopping BEFORE she went to dinner with her friend? she left groceries in her car for dinner and shopping? that's a bit odd. Wouldn't she bring them home first or go in the morning to the grocery if she was really planning on having guests for dinner the next night? I feel like the friend she had dinner with was a lost opportunity to question in more detail. I also feel as if the boss who found her car may have been the one driving it. this feels to me like the place she worked was engaged in some illegal things potentially. this feels very staged to me.
Yes, I found the grocery shopping before meeting her friend for dinner a bit odd but not off the charts crazy. If it it was stuff that needn’t be refrigerated then maybe not so odd. Now, the boss going to look for her and finding her car, now that was odd to me! If you did not show up for work would your boss leave the office and drive looking for you?
does anyone find it curious that Mary went grocery shopping BEFORE she went to dinner with her friend? she left groceries in her car for dinner and shopping? that's a bit odd. Wouldn't she bring them home first or go in the morning to the grocery if she was really planning on having guests for dinner the next night? I feel like the friend she had dinner with was a lost opportunity to question in more detail. I also feel as if the boss who found her car may have been the one driving it. this feels to me like the place she worked was engaged in some illegal things potentially. this feels very staged to me.
That always seemed odd to me too. It's hard to believe everything she needed for a dinner party would have been ok to leave in the car for two hours, plus however much time it was going to take her to drive home and put the groceries away.
I think it's odd her boss went to look for her car too. How many people's bosses would do that?
It's weird that the conclusion drawn by her dinner companion was that, "Ok, the mall is the last place I personally saw her so that's where her car must be." If I were her dinner companion I'd have assumed she went home after dinner, so the first place I'd have looked for her was at home. I wouldn't have immediately jumped to the conclusion that something happened to her in the mall parking lot.
I just found this forum yesterday in cold cases, and I have read through it three times, deciding on what I was going to post.
I wanted to post on my opinions about this case. I was an emotional roller coaster while reading through it. I tried to read various articles concerning it, but Im going to refrain from making multiple quotes. I cannot also find some of the material that I was trying to quote.
If I were a member of Dianne Shields family, I would be ticked off to no end. It does not seem that anyone has conclusivley looked at her case. It is forever wrapped up in the case of Mary Shotwell Little. And the big difference? Mary was never found. Dianne was found, stuffed into the trunk of her car. There was a quote in one of the articles about Mary Shotwell Little, I think that it was in the Atlanta paper, along the lines of "If Mary had simply JUST disappered...." her case would not have the folklore following that it does today. That quote made me so angry. Why?? Because Dianne Shields did not disappear, she was FOUND....and still it seems her case was immediately ruled out as a mere "coincidence". Coincidence, my great-aunt Fanny!!
If these two cases were linked, as I think they were, I feel that Dianne probably did something to piss her perpetrator off. Why? Because unlike Mary, she was found. I'm not laying the blame with Mary at all, vicitims in crimes respond differently in different situations. Mary probably knew him and had a deeper relationship with him, IF that was her in Charlotte at the gas stations.
The reason that I quoted the above post was specifically for NCThom. I think that if you are going to write a freelance article on the disappearance of Mary Shotwell Little, it would be to your benefit to contact Dianne Shields remaining family and investigate her murder as well. I know that you feel uncomfortable approaching Mary's remaining family. However, you may have a myriad of information available to you with Dianne's. Things that were overlooked by many people, who ruled that these cases were "coincidences". It kind of angers me even more that the lead investigator was such good friends with Little's remaining family. What about Dianne Shields? Did she get that luxury? To offer the benefit of the doubt, maybe they did not want a personal relationship with him, or maybe they did not care.
Even though years have passed since both crimes, often things that happened in the past that were big deals to families at one time, are no longer felt to be that way currently, or as the years pass. I think that as you get older, you are more willing to talk about things that happened in the past. I have found that to be true when doing family history research over supposed family scandals....babies out-of-wedlock, gay family members...what have you....it's really no big deal in 2010.
Forgive me if this post sounds abrasive, that is not my intent at all. What happened to Mary Little was horrible as was the same crime that happened to Dianne Shields. Thom, I just think that in order to write a fair article, you really need to delve into Dianne's life. Perhaps, my point is mute though, and you have already done this. I just wanted to make the suggestion. You might find out so much more if you look at Dianne because of the lack of interest in her case over the years.
Thanks guys, and keep up the great work.
Welcome to Ws JacksonFentry!Can anyone definitely place Gerald Mason in the Atlanta or in the northeast part of Georgia in 1965 and later ?. Also I admire the hard work of law enforcement now as I did as a boy when Mrs. Little went missing and Ms Shields was murdered. So underpaid, much overworked, I have seen these brave men and women working in these capacities also since a young boy. My best friend I grew up with, had a dad and two grown brothers who were career lawmen and I still have career law enforcement relatives who live their jobs 24/7 365 days a year. I want to just see if I've missed things in cold cases that changed everyone I grew up with in 1965 including Our late Mother who slept with a huge butcher knife under her bed after this happened as well as the Richard Speck murders.
Thank you Dotr.Welcome to Ws JacksonFentry!
Gerald Mason - Wikipedia
Only someone in a position of authority that had more than just a typical management to employee relationship would ever do that. Now, it could have been that he might have had looking more closely after Mrs Little because she had been noticed by others receiving troubling phone calls, and shared she was afraid of being alone. But to go to that much trouble for an employee this day in time would certainly be looked at with a difference retrospectively, as social as well as acceptable employer rules and regulations now might be entirely different as was the case in 1965. You have to remember, men were expected to be gentlemen, were looked upon as having much more authority and respect, and I would even say that in remembering things from that time in the south, he might have been in a tough position with the husband had he not have taken off to help and try to at least make an effort to get involved. This was a young lady very well respected, always there and dependable as much as had been disclosed about Mrs Little. I would not find it odd at all if my own Daddy would have done the very same thing as her Boss, just knowing it was a time when gentlemen were expected to be men of honor and respected in this field of work, or even if they were managing a hardware store.Yes, I found the grocery shopping before meeting her friend for dinner a bit odd but not off the charts crazy. If it it was stuff that needn’t be refrigerated then maybe not so odd. Now, the boss going to look for her and finding her car, now that was odd to me! If you did not show up for work would your boss leave the office and drive looking for you?
does anyone know who was helping Ray Pate on this case? he passed away last year.
I can't speak for kh—1975, but most people here don't have information to provide; we're interested in learning information so that we can try to solve the case ourselves. We all want to know who Ray Pate's prime suspect was.I am in contact with the team that is working the case. If you have pertinent information, I can have someone get in touch with you.
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