ontheclock
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Dad's story stinks. My worst fear is that caretakers can use the "I forgot" scenario as an excuse.
I think it did answer a question many of us have had. As much as they go on and on about how he talked all the time, talked about cars and trucks, and was vocal...I don't think he was sitting silently that drive back to his work.
Gave a bit away, if you ask me.
I think it did answer a question many of us have had. As much as they go on and on about how he talked all the time, talked about cars and trucks, and was vocal...I don't think he was sitting silently that drive back to his work.
Gave a bit away, if you ask me.
I really bugs me that they are asking for money to support them in their son's obituary. It's not in his memory, it's just for them. I don't want to kick them while they are down, but my goodness...the boy deserves to be honored without agenda.
It doesn't feel right, IMO.
I wonder why they decided to insert a PR statement into the obit.
Probably because they have been told not to talk to the media but wanted people who cared enough to read the little guys obit they support and stand behind the dad. There might be more to the story on both ends. I don't know. Their statements regarding Ross are very generous at a time like this so they must have faith in the man they have known him to be all these years and view this as an accident as other families of children who died in cars did. Until she gives a statement I can only speculate. I don't know these people but I pray they find peace and heal from this one day.
Heck! It sounds almost like the dad doused him with a hose pipe!'But the baby didn't look like it had been choking, it looked like it had been sweating, like it had been in a swimming pool, his hair was all wet."
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sorry it took me so long to find what I referenced yesterday....
I really bugs me that they are asking for money to support them in their son's obituary. It's not in his memory, it's just for them. I don't want to kick them while they are down, but my goodness...the boy deserves to be honored without agenda.
It doesn't feel right, IMO.
Probably because they have been told not to talk to the media but wanted people who cared enough to read the little guys obit they support and stand behind the dad. There might be more to the story on both ends. I don't know. Their statements regarding Ross are very generous at a time like this so they must have faith in the man they have known him to be all these years and view this as an accident as other families of children who died in cars did. Until she gives a statement I can only speculate. I don't know these people but I pray they find peace and heal from this one day.
But an obituary is to honor the dead, not a defense strategy. This is a tiny boy who isn't getting a proper moment to be honored. It's a campaign for the man in jail and a solicitation for funds. The precious boy is an afterthought. I too hope they fund peace, but they get no respect from me for using his obituary the way they did.
I don't think they are asking for money. I think they are grateful this charity has supported them and instead of people spending money on flowers that will die they ask it go back to the charity so they can continue to help other people who may find themselves in need. Its not like they linked to the other defense fund. Who knows who even set that up for them?
To be clear, for WS purposes, this dad is not a victim. He has been charged with murder and cruelty to a child. He is not considered a victim here.
Salem
to be clear, he's charged with second degree cruelty (criminal negligence) and felony murder (which requires no greater proof than guilty of the criminal negligence charge). So the second degree cruelty charge comes first and must be proven before you get to the felony murder charge -- which requires no separate finding of intent. The charge that required intent was dropped.
http://www.millerbrownlaw.com/Cruelty_to_Children.php
I posted the felony murder link above.
Right, but still to be clear...he is not a victim. And, LE has said the are looking for motive. I think it appears the believe there was intent and are searching his life for it currently. The charge was dropped, because thy don't have proof...yet.
He may be a victim ultimately in real life, he may not be. He's not considered a victim here, and that is what it is. I was just clarifying that he's not charged with 'murder' as in he killed the child on purpose and what he's charged with on both counts is criminal negligence -- a far cry from what people think of when they hear "murder."
He may be a victim ultimately in real life, he may not be. He's not considered a victim here, and that is what it is. I was just clarifying that he's not charged with 'murder' as in he killed the child on purpose and what he's charged with on both counts is criminal negligence -- a far cry from what people think of when they hear "murder."
Felony murder, is murder. He is responsible for the death of his child. He is not and will not be a victim here or anywhere else. He will always be who caused and allowed his baby to die. While I believe intent will be found, so don't need it. What it's legally called makes him no less guilty or responsible.
And what exactly is fake life? This IS real life.
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