GA - Suspicion over heat death of Cooper, 22 mo., Cobb County, June 2014, #3

[Cinnamon]

Posted: 8:37 a.m. Saturday, June 28, 2014
Warrant: Cobb toddler’s dad researched child deaths inside vehicles

COBB COUNTY, Ga. — The Cobb man accused of leaving his toddler son in an SUV for seven hours researched child deaths inside vehicles, according to new documents obtained by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Video and article at link:
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/warrant-cobb-toddlers-dad-researched-child-deaths-/ngT3H/

 

[Sonya610]

Like I've stated before, I think the "lunch break visit to the car" was intended to be discovery. But he heard the child choking. If he looked into the back of the car that would be visible on the security camera (I think) so we'll see.

Yeah...I have thought something similar. He went out to the car to "check" and see if the deed was done.

Like I said murder stories rarely freak me out but that is just beyond horrid. Before I caught up on this thread I read a headline somewhere about this and thought....he probably hit or shook the child in a fit of rage and then tried to cover the crime with the hot car story.

Thinking that the hot car death was intentional is just so much worse than the "moment of rage" assumption.

 

[Chewy]

What's beyond horrid to me is that apparently he wasn't dead yet, so he closed the door and walked away to let it "finish."

 

[gngr~snap]

I could see him looking it up last summer. When Cooper was smaller, maybe even in Sept of 2012, since Cooper was born Aug 2.
This technically being the 3rd hot season in Cooper's life it finally dawns on him to look it up and then his son succumbs to the heat in a car?
Nope. He did think he would get away with it and that police would just believe him. IMO
I wonder what he thinks now.
Lock him up and throw away the key.

 

[tangelo]

I haven't read anything about the mother's schedule. If she typically picked the child up at 2 from the day care...and the child wasn't there and had never been dropped off...and she kept calling until after 4 and then spoke with the father....

Well I won't say anything more except....did she place multiple calls to the husband's cell and also to the office so the staff there would track him down?

She is not a named suspect in this case so these are just innocent questions.

they might be waiting till after funeral to arrest her

 

[LietKynes]

IMO He is lying. He intentionally left the child to die. Researched in advance, aka premeditation. LE needs to lock him up for life.

BBM

HFH, I liked the pic in your post. I am starting to think you are right. Taken individually, the pieces do not mean a lot ( was he physic,suffering from ADHD,had a blackout,etc?) , but when added all together; we have a portrait of a man who allegedly committed an act so vile that the hottest parts of hell are not hot enough.

Just the thought of that little Cooper chattering happily as they drove into the parking lot at his dad's work...then sitting there waiting to be lifted out of his car seat, and waiting as the temperature became warmer and then stifling.... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

:moo:

 

[Linda7NJ]

I could see him looking it up last summer. When Cooper was smaller, maybe even in Sept of 2012, since Cooper was born Aug 2.
This technically being the 3rd hot season in Cooper's life it finally dawns on him to look it up and then his son succumbs to the heat in a car?
Nope. He did think he would get away with it and that police would just believe him. IMO
I wonder what he thinks now.
Lock him up and throw away the key.

He admitted to recently.


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[HauntsForHope]

22-Month-Old Cooper Harris' Death Investigation -- Justin Ross Harris Charged With Felony Murder in Son's Heat Related Death -- Cobb County, GA
Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:17 am

"Did anyone else watch the JVM show? She had someone on the show that said when the Dad stopped his car he was screaming that his baby was choking and he needed help. When he laid him down to do CPR, the baby's legs were still bent like when sitting in the car seat. Rigor had already set in, therefore there was no way he was choking. The witness said he seemed to be over acting and no tears came out of his eyes."
BBM

http://www.wsbtv.com/videos/news/autopsy-released-police-chief-asks-for-patience-in/vCgMHc/

 

[Nana46]

One question please.....is the thought about researching dogs/animals dying in hot cars the one that was a myth? Is that because they are now saying he researched children in hot cars???????

Is that why it was denied from LE because it was not what he searched? Thanks if anyone knows.

 

[tlcya]

really guys, slow down, do you know how many pages I just had to read to get caught up and I was here til after midnight last night!! Don't y'all sleep??

Okay I am up to speed.

 

[gngr~snap]

someone was supposed to pick Cooper up at daycare, either mom or dad.

If it was mom then why were alarms not sounded at whatever time she was meant to do so and found him NOT there?

If it was dad then why do these reports about the contents of the warrant state he was leaving work and heading to meet up with friends after? That does not suggest a man in charge of picking up his son at the end of the work day. MOO A man whose day includes picking up child from daycare would not be leaving his job and heading off to meet friends. His itinerary would include picking the child off and delivering him home prior to those plans IMO

at around 1620 hrs when he was driving to meet up with some friends.

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/crime/2014/06/28/justin-ross-harris-child-hot-car-death/11609645/

Harris’s son, Cooper, was left in the car from 9:30 a.m. to 4:20 p.m., the warrant says, when his father discovered he was dead while driving to meet friends.

http://mdjonline.com/bookmark/25362411-Warrant-Father-searched-Internet-for-child-car-death

He was meeting up with friends after work. I was wrong then. I thought he met up with someone before work.
I am curious where he was meeting them and who they were.
moo

 

[Irisha]

No, I mean premonition.

Not everyone believes in premonition, I get that. But some people are very sensitive to "what could happen" by knowing their lifestyle and knowing themselves.

And also by something else spiritual.

I've seen it, I've felt it, I believe it. But no, thanks, I didn't choose the wrong word and it seems rather bold to tell someone that a word that actually exists (so people do believe it) isn't real.

Then he should have gotten a "Baby on Board" sign and hung it from his rear view mirror if he had such a dire premonition.:banghead:

 

[Linda7NJ]

One question please.....is the thought about researching dogs/animals dying in hot cars the one that was a myth? Is that because they are now saying he researched children in hot cars???????



Is that why it was denied from LE because it was not what he searched? Thanks if anyone knows.

Media thread.
He searched for how long and at what temp!!!!




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[HauntsForHope]

BBM

HFH, I liked the pic in your post. I am starting to think you are right. Taken individually, the pieces do not mean a lot ( was he physic,suffering from ADHD,had a blackout,etc?) , but when added all together; we have a portrait of a man who allegedly committed an act so vile that the hottest parts of hell are not hot enough.

Just the thought of that little Cooper chattering happily as they drove into the parking lot at his dad's work...then sitting there waiting to be lifted out of his car seat, and waiting as the temperature became warmer and then stifling.... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

:moo:

Thanks! Oh yes, ITA, plain as day. easy conviction... Murder 1!! :jail:

 

[tangelo]

Yeah, systems that alert you to "weight or movement" can't be relied upon. Why not just put your purse next to the child seat? Or clip a cord from the baby seat to YOUR clothing? If you try to exit the vehicle you will be reminded that there is a baby in a car seat behind you.

Don't rely on electronics to tell you when/if there is an object/person left in the vehicle, they are not accurate enough at this time.

yeah the only alternative really is to care for your children.

 

[popsicle]

Posted: 8:37 a.m. Saturday, June 28, 2014
Warrant: Cobb toddler’s dad researched child deaths inside vehicles

COBB COUNTY, Ga. — The Cobb man accused of leaving his toddler son in an SUV for seven hours researched child deaths inside vehicles, according to new documents obtained by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Video and article at link:
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/warrant-cobb-toddlers-dad-researched-child-deaths-/ngT3H/

I am wondering if his little searching is also the reason he stopped for a 2nd breakfast.... thinking that change in his usual pattern will help him fit in with other child deaths in hot cars. Problem is, the others didn't involve a 3 minute drive after the change in routine and probably not removing and interacting with the child either. jmo

 

[LietKynes]

they might be waiting till after funeral to arrest her

RSBM

She has not been named a suspect so cannot be sleuthed. Interesting to know if the daycare called either of them ? That is important because then at least one of them would have known he was not at daycare.
Most here believe we know Harris knew exactly where his son was....but did Cooper's mother call the daycare or Harris ---or did either of them call her ?
If the daycare called me and said my child wasn't there, and I knew my husband was to drop him/her off, I'd be beating a path quicker to my husband and/or the daycare faster than you could blink.

As of now, I feel Harris lied outright to his wife to throw her off his trail.
That still wouldn't explain the possibility of the daycare calling both mom and dad to say Cooper had not been dropped off.
This will be important evidence, because it will show whether one or both of them knew Cooper didn't show up at his daycare !
:moo:

 

[Linda7NJ]

I am wondering if his little searching is also the reason he stopped for a 2nd breakfast.... thinking that change in his usual pattern will help him fit in with other child deaths in hot cars. Problem is, the others didn't involve a 3 minute drive after the change in routine and probably not removing and interacting with the child either. jmo

I think it's more like putting the heart sticker on the duct tape.
A sick twisted psychopathic "Loving" little gesture.
Probably fed him one of his favorite foods.

All IMO


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[matou]

Been getting up to speed on this case and have a few questions/comments. I have never heard of a rear-facing car seat for a child Cooper's age, but it's been awhile since I shopped for one. Do we know how the car was parked at HD -- backwards or forwards into the building? Since the parents alternated taking him to daycare, I would figure they had 2 seats -- do we know if they did? Also, whenever my kids were in rear-facing seats as infants, I had the double mirrors in the car, so I could see them while driving. If he had one of those, I can't imagine him "forgetting" about his son.

I thought the rear-facing seats were for infants, not toddlers. I feel weird about that too, as if he wanted to not see his kid's face at all. JMO

 

[Sonya610]

What's beyond horrid to me is that apparently he wasn't dead yet, so he closed the door and walked away to let it "finish."

And he took the child to chick-fil-a for a fun breakfast right before hand.

I honestly can't even imagine the mindset of someone so cold blooded. That was a horrendously cruel form of death.