GA - Suspicion over heat death of Cooper, 22 mo., Cobb County, June 2014, #3

[blue22]

having had the ''phone call from hell'' myself years ago, it's not like the movies no officer came to our house and no one held my hand....freaking phone call is sometimes all you bloody well get period dot


and yes it sucks

but it's the loss that sucks more

We got a phone call from the scene, as well. (suicide, unfortunately.) we lived literally 5 houses away. It was the worst phone call, you are right. They aren't therapists, sometimes you just get a call.

 

[CHERIE.T]

:floorlaugh:

Good luck with that!!

:floorlaugh: I had to try!

 

[newone]

Maybe his wife went to daycare to pick her son up, found he wasn't there.
Called husband who didn't answer his phone.
Got really worried, if it's true she usually picked up @ 2:00....







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good point!!

Maybe her first words to him were "" Where are you? Where's C?" and he lost it.... (flustered him and irritated him)

could have been more than awkward.

 

[gngr~snap]

We got a phone call from the scene, as well. (suicide, unfortunately.) we lived literally 5 houses away. It was the worst phone call, you are right. They aren't therapists, sometimes you just get a call.

I am so sorry for your loss! Everyone's loss, can I ask did they even verify that you weren't driving first? When I get shocking news like that I hit the floor. I might kill myself or several people if I were on the road.
(I turn my cell off when I drive.)
I am not doubting what anyone has said.
Just feel panicked for all of you!
Moo

 

[newone]

I am so sorry for your loss! Everyone's loss, can I ask did they even verify that you weren't driving first? When I get shocking news like that I hit the floor. I might kill myself or several people if I were on the road.
(I turn my cell off when I drive.)
I am not doubting what anyone has said.
Just feel panicked for all of you!
Moo

catatonic -- moi real time zombie.....alert but totally numb

 

[gngr~snap]

good point!!

Maybe her first words to him were "" Where are you? Where's C?" and he lost it.... (flustered him and irritated him)

could have been more than awkward.

I can imagine...

"The daycare called! Cooper wasn't there again today!
I have been trying to get you on your cell all day! So what is your excuse this time huh?"

"Listen ! Our son is dead you **** **** **** ***** "
moo

 

[blue22]

I am so sorry for your loss! Everyone's loss, can I ask did they even verify that you weren't driving first? When I get shocking news like that I hit the floor. I might kill myself or several people if I were on the road.
(I turn my cell off when I drive.)
I am not doubting what anyone has said.
Just feel panicked for all of you!
Moo

I don't remember. I vaguely remember being asked to leave the room my nephew was in or something like that. (My sister, his mom.) I remember a few moments of that night. It was a surreal blur.

Just wanted to add, it wasn't until weeks later when the visits ended, calls were more infrequent, cards stopped coming, etc. that I felt the loss. Right after a tragedy is very distracting.

 

[gitana1]

Pierce handcuffed a distraught man at the scene in front of a crowd gathered while Harris was trying to talk to his wife. Pierce has taught Harris who the boss is. That's as theatrical as it gets. Pierce had his man, now to get evidence.

Respectfully, that's super unreasonable and unrealistic. Because Pierce is one man on the beat and lacks the power to make decisions for his department as a whole or the DA. And they, not Officer Pierce, decided to charge this man with the most serious charge ever leveled in American history against a parent who didn't knowingly leave their child in the car to die. I mean, he's eligible for the death penalty here. And as we can all see,'this is a highly charged subject. Many people are quite protective of parents who experience tragedies when the cause is an accident on their part.

It can be political Suicide to level the wrong charges against "grieving" parents.

Nope. There is much much more to this than supporting an over zealous beat cop.

 

[newone]

Well lets see...they had breakfast at home before leaving, reportedly. Then he gets breakfast again before work.... so it is logical to wonder if maybe he was meeting someone. hmm

for all we know -- it could have been a realtor!! (MOO) IF we think he may have had a business meeting before work

 

[gngr~snap]

I don't remember. I vaguely remember being asked to leave the room my nephew was in or something like that. (My sister, his mom.) I remember a few moments of that night. It was a surreal blur.

Just wanted to add, it wasn't until weeks later when the visits ended, calls were more infrequent, cards stopped coming, etc. that I felt the lost. Right after a tragedy is very distracting.

I cannot imagine. I read on FACEBOOK that my aunt had died. I freaked. I knew she was ill. Past her 80's, but was doing well last I heard. I was furious at my cousin. Of course it was after midnight when he posted. He said I knew if you were awake you'd see it and call. I knew if you were asleep, I wasn't going to call you up and break your heart.
I know I cried over 16 hours.
My face was completely raw at the viewing and service.
I never realized teears were that salty.
My mom died 14 years ago, but I knew it was coming.
Facebook? really?
sigh...

 

[newone]

I cannot imagine. I read on FACEBOOK that my aunt had died. I freaked. I knew she was ill. Past her 80's, but was doing well last I heard. I was furious at my cousin. Of course it was after midnight when he posted. He said I knew if you were awake you'd see it and call. I knew if you were asleep, I wasn't going to call you up and break your heart.
I know I cried over 16 hours.
My face was completely raw at the viewing and service.
I never realized teears were that salty.
My mom died 14 years ago, but I knew it was coming.
Facebook? really?
sigh...

there's never a good way to hear the news.....((hugs))

 

[newone]

are they going to execute the searches tomorrow or just release to the public the contents of those search documents?

 

[gngr~snap]

are they going to execute the searches tomorrow or just release to the public the contents of those search documents?

I think just release the search warrants, not what they have.
jmo

 

[CHERIE.T]

I'm sincerely sorry for everyone's loss.

 

[newone]

I thought it was important to advise a poster that there was no ''nice'' way for Mrs.H to hear the bad news about the loss of her child - it's not like in the movies

 

[CHERIE.T]

I thought it was important to advise a poster that there was no ''nice'' way for Mrs.H to hear the bad news about the loss of her child - it's not like in the movies

I think you did the right thing.

 

[gngr~snap]

I thought it was important to advise a poster that there was no ''nice'' way for Mrs.H to hear the bad news about the loss of her child - it's not like in the movies

I appreciate that. Obviously I am in fairy tale mode. I should know better, my mind does not want to hear it.
I think I needed that!
A dose of reality.
Now if I could get the lightening and storms to hush...

 

[newone]

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Gitana:

do you think that JRH stands any chance of being released on bail after July 2? Gitana left us.......

JRH has a court appearance 2 July - will Judge set bail or does his attorney have to ask for it?

Could/would a judge order a mental health evaluation at 2 July hearing ((not being mean but if accused is unwell it may be in his favor wouldn't it))

fftobed:fftobed:

 

[gitana1]

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Gitana:

do you think that JRH stands any chance of being released on bail after July 2? Gitana left us.......

JRH has a court appearance 2 July - will Judge set bail or does his attorney have to ask for it?

Could/would a judge order a mental health evaluation at 2 July hearing ((not being mean but if accused is unwell it may be in his favor wouldn't it))

fftobed:fftobed:

I'm here. Sorry. I was watching someone get arrested in front of my house for public intoxication!!

I'm not sure if they have to ask but they will and I believe he has a chance at bail. I've seen it stated that murder charge make a person ineligible for bail in GA but I think that's only before a superior court judge can set it. Other cases indicate people charged with murder have made bail in GA.

I'm not sure if a psych eval can be ordered at the next hearing but along the way that could happen for sure.

 

[Chewy]

I was just curious. I can see how it can happen even to the most responsible people. I think everyone expirences auto pilot moments and other variables can interfer with the flow etc. I also agree some people are more preoccupied then they need to be. Trouble is they don't think they are and that's where the danger comes in. I for example have severe ADHD that I have always needed medication. I have to be super careful to take my time in order to stay on task and keep myself and family safe. My brain moves on to the next thing on my list as I'm still doing something even if the task is not completed. Sometimes just thinking triggers 4 others thoughts and I may or may not return to the initial topic. Small example - getting out of the shower yet leaving the water running all day long because in my head its done. I've showered and my brain is on to the next thing I need to do with no thought of shutting off the water. True story! Its constant chaos in my head unmedicated and 50% better medicated. But I know this about myself so I make sure to take my medication and have developed strategies and coping skills to avoid major issues brought on by my bunk brain. I'm OCD basically when it comes to my children and their safety. This means I have to follow very specific routines to insure I'm not careless or loose focus. If I'm in a situation that calls for spontaneity I really have to go slow and take my time. I bring this up because I equate it to what it must feel be like for someone who takes on to much, is preoccupied, busy, distracted, comfortable and caught up in the hussle and bustle of daily life assuming nothing bad will come of rushing and living this way. Its easy to think once you are in the car doing the same thing you do every morning going through the motions subconciously but most people don't account for the danger of mixing things up and how that affects their mental " cruise control". This is where mistakes happen and I can understand how fast and easily it can happen. It is an excuse but i can see it. That being said I have a hard time deciding where and when an accident becomes criminal. Its not always black and white for me.

I don't think I've ever heard of a case that involved ADHD. This alone tells me it has more to do with negligence than mental glitches.