GA - Suspicion over heat death of Cooper, 22 mo., Cobb County, June 2014, #6

[Spice]

A repulsive odor, would at the very least, cause a reasonable person to look around in their car. And then you would see your car seat. And then you would see your dead child that you somehow randomly forgot although you drop him off at daycare daily.

It's really that simple.

It is absolutely a fantastic thought to think this man did not notice anything amiss when he opened his car door.

Then, he somehow miraculously noticed Cooper one mile later upon hearing a "postmortem" burp that he mistakes for choking.

So he has a damaged ear from a bottle rocket but somehow he can hear that fictitious sound and he mistakes it for choking? This is more likely than him smelling a repugnant odor and seeing a car seat?

It's truly ridiculous and only passes muster in The Theatre Of The Absurd.

He had a nose and a pair of eyes.

 

[Melanie]

Here's a similar case, but does show clear intent. Babysitter wanted to go tanning, so she left the kids to boil. Thankfully, the children survived due to passerby's, but she is being charged with two counts each of first-degree criminal mistreatment and first-degree child neglect.

This happens more than we want to realize, and I agree with charging these folks to the fullest extent of the law.

And on that note, I do believe Harris had malicious intent as well.

JMHO - thanks,

Melanie

Interesting video at this link if you want to take the time to watch.


http://blog.sfgate.com/sfmoms/2014/...-kids-in-car-while-she-went-to-tanning-salon/

 

[gngr~snap]

Had he driven to the front of the Uncle Maddio's pizza place there is an enormous parking lot, a Cinco's restaurant can be seen a
Sports Authority
Bed Bath Beyond
Toys R Us
Longhorn's
Chic fil a (different one)
& several other stores.

Pulling in behind the restaurant I find odd.

Look around for yourself. Then ask youself, if I panicked and need help for my baby ASAP ,am I pulling in behind the stores with locked delivery doors or in front where I can run in?
He got help so I'm not sure it matters.

http://goo.gl/maps/N8QPK
moo

 

[matou]

Nancy Grace covering this case on HLN tonight at 8 pm.

 

[Morag]

Does anyone but me remember, from the very beginning of this case, that when JH called his wife that she was said to be riding on a bus at the time? I remember thinking, oh, they only have one car. But how could she have been expected to pick up Cooper?

 

[JSR]

I don't think an odor would have jarred my memory. I don't think I would go from GOOD GOD it smells in here, to therefore my child must be dead.



I might think a cat had crawled up in there, a diaper was left, something.



It seems in retrospect that an odor is obviously the deceased child, but that's because we know how this ends.

But the thought of a left diaper would have reminded him that he never dropped off his son to daycare!

 

[LietKynes]

I would like to know what caused him to look in the back of the car before he turned into the strip mall.

Did he not look back to back out of his parking space at work?

RSBM

Does anyone here know where he parked at work ? As in, did he have to back up, or did he park in a middle aisle, where you just pull forward and out ?

 

[Lovejac]

Had he driven to the front of the Uncle Maddio's pizza place there is an enormous parking lot, a Cinco's restaurant can be seen a
Sports Authority
Bed Bath Beyond
Toys R Us
Longhorn's
Chic fil a (different one)
& several other stores.

Pulling in behind the restaurant I find odd.

Look around for yourself. Then ask youself, if I panicked and need help for my baby ASAP ,am I pulling in behind the stores with locked delivery doors or in front where I can run in?
He got help so I'm not sure it matters.

http://goo.gl/maps/N8QPK
moo

if I suddenly remembered that I left my child in the car, I would probably stop in the middle of the road.

 

[keeponsearching]

The smell would of be overwhelming. I am surprise he made it out of his parking lot with out looking around. That just makes me so sick.

I think LE has more on video. That is why he is not being released on bond.

 

[popsicle]

Does anyone but me remember, from the very beginning of this case, that when JH called his wife that she was said to be riding on a bus at the time? I remember thinking, oh, they only have one car. But how could she have been expected to pick up Cooper?

No no no that was another case entirely if that was the post I wrote.

 

[matou]

Do we know their home address?

ETA: Never mind,I see it in the search warrant.

 

[Figuring]

You're right. This wasn't a very good plan. Cops saw right through it. Nobody is accusing Harris of being a genius mastermind of the perfect crime.

JMO

Agreed! I've certainly never said or tried to infer he planned everything in advance or was any kind of mastermind. I mean, if he were, we wouldn't be on thread #5. We wouldn't even be talking!

The fact is, people are toiling away in jail right now because NO one can ever anctipate the variables that come in to play when even the most basic plan goes awry (eg., in other cases -- water currents; garbage not picked up that day because the driver was sick; that only one of those tiny hammers was sold in the last year in your town, etc etc.), In this case, I believe the primary uncontrolled factors will be A) The temperature outside vs. the UV tinting in his car, and B) the unexpected arrival of beat cops at the pizza parlour.

 

[Lovejac]

So I'm thinking we won't be hearing any new information until the probable cause hearing.

Isn't that on Thursday?

 

[mrsu]

Catching up.....

1. Do we know what time Ross normally left work every day? If there was some type of failed plan for someone to find Cooper earlier in the day, was he leaving work early as to beat the time the wife was to pick him up from daycare?

2. The windows on the vehicle look pretty tinted. If there was hope that someone would notice him, I suppose that would be a lot harder with the tinted windows.

3. What was so important that he needed to go out to his vehicle at the lunch period?

4. If the daycare is near his employment, is it possible that as he was driving he could have seen the daycare which jarred the memory that he never dropped the child off in the morning making him pull over suddenly?

5. Do we know if the daycare tried to call either parent that day?

 

[tlcya]

see the map on page 3 or 4 of media only thread matou. The map there shows the office the daycare the chick fila and the residence.

 

[Lovejac]

Do we know their home address?

Its in one of the warrants in the media thread.

 

[Spice]

Catching up.....

1. Do we know what time Ross normally left work every day? If there was some type of failed plan for someone to find Cooper earlier in the day, was he leaving work early as to beat the time the wife was to pick him up from daycare?

2. The windows on the vehicle look pretty tinted. If there was hope that someone would notice him, I suppose that would be a lot harder with the tinted windows.

3. What was so important that he needed to go out to his vehicle at the lunch period?

4. If the daycare is near his employment, is it possible that as he was driving he could have seen the daycare which jarred the memory that he never dropped the child off in the morning making him pull over suddenly?

5. Do we know if the daycare tried to call either parent that day?

Are all of the windows tinted? Or just the small ones in the back?

 

[mrsu]

RSBM

Does anyone here know where he parked at work ? As in, did he have to back up, or did he park in a middle aisle, where you just pull forward and out ?

He could have had a back up camera. My vehicle does - I rarely look over my shoulder when I back up now.

 

[tlcya]

early on in the first day or two of this case I thought I had read that mom worked part time, dad regularly dropped Cooper off, mom picked Cooper up around 2:30 but she was out of town that day (not at work) and therefore it was assumed that Ross was the one to be picking him up that day.

Heading out from work but will have to try to track down if that was fact speculation or rumor.

 

[Tawny]

He could have had a back up camera. My vehicle does - I rarely look over my shoulder when I back up now.

Off topic: I learned not to neglect looking over the shoulder when my backup camera failed to pickup the mustang that was parked caddycorner to my vehicle. I'd have seen it had i looked behind, but the angle of the camera (fish eye lens, they all are that way) caused distortion which prevented the vehicle from being seen on it.

Always look back physically in conjunction with the use of the camera

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