GA - Suspicion over heat death of Cooper, 22 mo., Cobb County, June 2014, #7

[popsicle]

So I downloaded Babyfinder app.

When I was at the pool with my kids, I set the app by touching the heart to say I was there.
Then when I came home and parked I came in the house.

Within 5 mins I was freaked the heck out by the sound of a creepy laughing baby. I forgot all about the app and it just scared the carp out of me.

I did not touch it to unset. I wanted to see what it does. At one minute intervals it sends that very creepy alert to your phone.

I would say that it works. But again, all my days of searching and I never ever saw an app like this before mentioned.

I would have to find another app. lol

 

[Starry Night]

I never look at my back. I use my mirrors.

Including the middle mirror on windshield I presume? Then how in the **** could you not notice the child's seat? Honestly-that is not very strong as a defense-it stretches credibility. In my opinion.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I would have to find another app. lol

It is super creepy.. I wish I could play it for you.

 

[Chewy]

I think that is exactly what he wanted to happen and sooner than later. Hence the "how long to die" research. (He knew death would come fast) It didn't happen though. He checked at lunch. Waited some more and hoped someone would see the baby in the back. Again nothing.

Then he panicked. Drove in a stinking reeking car trying to decide where to pull over and make his dramatic discovery in front of witnesses, where he could put on his show.

I do not think that what actually occurred was ever part of his plan. I think he wanted the discovery to be made, by someone else, in his work parking lot. Then he would be notified and could have his breakdown right there. This poor father.....sitting at his desk for an hour and totally forgot his son in the car and he died. How tragic! Etc. Etc. Etc.

That plan ^^^ would ( in his mind) make his "innocent" forgetfulness more believable than 7 full hours of forgetting and then driving around for 10 minutes in a car that stunk to the high heavens. I believe this is where the "my son is choking" comment came from....he was panicking as he had no plan B and was forced to improvise at the end of his work day.

If you think about it, everything that he does after 12 noon makes him look the most guilty. The going into the car....not noticing Cooper. The getting back in the car at 4 and driving for 10 minutes in a putrid vehicle, he didn't smell anything that tipped him off, instead a "choking" (dead) cooper alerted him that his son was in trouble. Without the events from Noon on, we only have a father who "forgot" after sharing a meal with his son at Chikfila.

His original plan did not work.

That is just my opinion.

IMO this is exactly what happened as well. I think that by the time no one came up to let him know, he decided to go down to the car to see what was going on. IMO Cooper was dying but still alive at that time and he didn't want to risk him surviving so he went back upstairs and pretty much knew he was screwed. That's why he drove somewhere else for discovery.

JMO:moo:

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Including the middle mirror on windshield I presume? Then how in the **** could you not notice the child's seat? Honestly-that is not very strong as a defense-it stretches credibility. In my opinion.

Nope. I use my side mirrors. From years of having car seats and a DH who has a CDL he taught me how to use my side mirrors and I don't look at the back center anymore.

 

[Lovejac]

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2014/07/justin_ross_harris_goes_to_cou.html


Ross Harris goes to court Thursday in death of 22-month-old son left in sweltering SUV

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

It won't happen to me, and I am in no way shy to say that. I won't LET it happen to me.

I hope it never does.

 

[popsicle]

O/T but hot car related

Scott MacFarlane ‏@MacFarlaneNews 11m
Anne Arundel, Md police say woman to be charged w/ animal neglect for leaving dog in hot car for 2 hours, dog dies

 

[cluciano63]

To me it is no different than parents who lose a child to drowning or getting hit by a car. We all protect our kids. But sometimes the worst still happens.

Well, it is no different, unless it is. Parents kill their children intentionally, every day, in various ways.

 

[jennapuppy]

I'm one of those people who can never see things like this in photos. Even when people draw circles and arrows. Even if I squint. You should have seen me trying to make heads or tails of the photos in the Mickey Shunick case. It was a lost cause. I think I was the only one who couldn't "see" what everyone else could.

But even I can see Leanna holding what appears to be a cell phone camera horizontally. Thanks for circling it!

You mean you couldn't see a massively huge dog's head in the backseat of that DWT? :floorlaugh:

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Well, it is no different, unless it is. Parents kill their children intentionally, every day, in various ways.

That is not what we are talking about. We are talking about true accidents. Murder is murder no matter what.

 

[popsicle]

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2014/07/justin_ross_harris_goes_to_cou.html


Ross Harris goes to court Thursday in death of 22-month-old son left in sweltering SUV

Have you read about any of the other cases like this? The other parents all say they thought they had dropped their child off at childcare/baby sitter etc. Don't they? Maybe it is all the same I don't know.

 

[Starry Night]

I wonder what the stats are regarding the hot-car deaths of children wherein the parent gets into the car and drives for several minutes before realizing the worst?

 

[momrids6]

If you're aware this could happen.... and then you don't do anything to prevent it.

Saying "This could never happen to me, I'm a good parent"... because you take the time and attention and precautions to ensure this doesn't happen to you.

jmo

My purse has gone on the floor of the backseat for a little over 26 years; since I installed the first car seat, and youngest is now 15. Will place it there forever- as grandchildren are next

 

[LinasK]

IMO this is exactly what happened as well. I think that by the time no one came up to let him know, he decided to go down to the car to see what was going on. IMO Cooper was dying but still alive at that time and he didn't want to risk him surviving so he went back upstairs and pretty much knew he was screwed. That's why he drove somewhere else for discovery.

JMO:moo:

This makes me think, so what would he have done if someone else had discovered Cooper while he was still alive? Then Ross would have to deal with an alive, but gravely injured (probably brain-damaged) child. What would he have done then? Couldn't use the left-in-a hot car scenario again.

 

[sorrell skye]

In a way it doesn't matter.

• If he reversed in there is no way he could have missed Cooper when he arrived at 9.30am
• If he reversed out then there is no way he could have missed Connor when he was leaving at 4pm and no justifiable reason for going drive-about before contacting emergency services.

If he looked over his shoulder while backing in or out, I agree.

I always look over my shoulder (both directions), look in my rear-view mirror, and look in my side-view mirrors while backing up, because I'm so paranoid about hitting anything or getting hit by someone else. It takes me forever to back up lol!

If RH didn't look over his shoulder, or only looked in his rear-view mirror or side-view mirrors when backing up, or didn't look in his mirrors at all (I've seen folks do this - they drive me nutz), then I can imagine how he couldn't have seen Cooper in the back seat.

The thing that gets me the most is that he claims to have forgotten Cooper so quickly (seemingly immediately) after just having breakfast with him and after just strapping him in his car seat mere moments before.

RH didn't forget to take Cooper into the restaurant with him, according to LE, and this was after the longer drive from home that morning.

Since he remembered to take Cooper out of the car seat and into the restaurant with him, I find it nigh impossible to believe that he forgot about him immediately after putting him back into the car.

 

[CHERIE.T]

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2014/07/justin_ross_harris_goes_to_cou.html


Ross Harris goes to court Thursday in death of 22-month-old son left in sweltering SUV

Isaza said the judge has designated CNN to provide the pool video, and also is allowing one still photographer in the courtroom.

yes!~~~

 

[momrids6]

Randy Travis ✔ @RandyTravisFox5 Follow Sounds like u have strong opinion about case @MrBenjiMartin but these are facts. Write back in next few weeks. Terrible details coming.
2:48 PM - 27 Jun 2014


https://twitter.com/RandyTravisFox5/status/482596344163340288

 

[popsicle]

My purse has gone on the floor of the backseat for a little over 26 years; since I installed the first car seat, and youngest is now 15. Will place it there forever- as grandchildren are next

I agree, I always my stuff back there when I loaded up my girls.

 

[Starry Night]

My purse has gone on the floor of the backseat for a little over 26 years; since I installed the first car seat, and youngest is now 15. Will place it there forever- as grandchildren are next

Ha! I remember well before seat-belts when our mother would drive us 8 kids (lol) around in the station wagon and if she had to brake suddenly, her right arm would automatically fly out and almost chop off our head if we were in the front seat.

A generation later, my former sister-in-law, driving her 4 little ones around back in the 70's-no seat-belt law then either-she took a corner really fast and one of the car doors flew open-the child in that seat next to the door had the sense and reaction to just hang on to the door.
She was fine and the trip continued.

People get complacent sometimes these days and assume too much.