GA - Suspicion over heat death of Cooper, 22 mo., Cobb County, June 2014, #8

[Msollicito]

What time are you planning on showing up at the courthouse? Do they have large rooms there because they will probably need one with all the interest in this case? imo

probably around 10am I will go there to see what it is like - if there is no one there at that point I will go look around the shops in Marietta Square for a bit but I will be prepared to stay at the courthouse if necessary..
I hope that is early enough!

 

[BrownRice]

IMO, you guys are off the chain talking about RHs looks. Wow. I never knew you could tell a killer by the way they look.

I don't think it's the fact he looks like a killer or not. It's the fact his (only) child just suffered a torturous death and most parents would look absolutely heart broken and beyond grief-stricken. He looks pissed off. I see no sign of horror or sadness.

 

[popsicle]

Well yes, Adam Lanza obviously looked whacked out in his photos. Some killers do (especially the freaky wide eyed look) but most look like average folks when "everyday" pictures are shown yet some folks will inevitably say "I can tell he is evil by the look in his eyes!"

Yes, like when you pull up an article that has a photo and before you read the caption you try to figure out if that is the killer or the victim.

 

[oh_gal]

I am not a doctor, nor in the medical field -- but if that is the time it "may" have taken Cooper to die, then why was he so wet at the pizzeria?

Wouldn't the body stop sweating at the TOD?

'But the baby didn't look like it had been choking, it looked like it had been sweating, like it had been in a swimming pool, his hair was all wet.

This has baffled me from the beginning. Wouldn't he be dry?

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Thanks,

Mel

What was the context of him being wet? (I don't recall). Was it witnesses who said he was wet while he was outside the car, or as dad brought him outside the car, etc.? Is it possible that someone (either Dad, in an attempt to carry on his ruse; or a bystander, or first responder) tried to pour water on him to cool him down?

 

[popsicle]

probably around 10am I will go there to see what it is like - if there is no one there at that point I will go look around the shops in Marietta Square for a bit but I will be prepared to stay at the courthouse if necessary..
I hope that is early enough!

:floorlaugh: I know!

 

[Sonya610]

I don't think it's the fact he looks like a killer or not. It's the fact his (only) child just suffered a torturous death and most parents would look absolutely heart broken and beyond grief-stricken. He looks pissed off. I see no sign of horror or sadness.

Yeah I can see that side of it. I was talking about the photo of him on the sofa with the baby, like others said some people have "groutchy" resting face so candid shots can't be judged too harshly.

 

[Chewy]

Well yes, Adam Lanza obviously looked whacked out in his photos. Some killers do (especially the freaky wide eyed look) but most look like average folks when "everyday" pictures are shown yet some folks will inevitably say "I can tell he is evil by the look in his eyes!"

I don't think he looked crazy at all in his pictures. I would be very shocked to think he had done what he had done just by looking at this pictures. That's not what registered. But he should not have been given access to fire arms because you could see he had developmental issues that made him not responsible enough to be given that level of responsibility.


I also agree that a bad picture can give someone a wrong impression. Just like a good picture can give someone a better countenance than they really have.

One of my sisters takes absolutely fantastic pictures but in person is horrid. So I'm not saying pictures always tell the story. They don't.


But I look people in the face and eyes all the time because I rely on lip reading. When you do that all the time you just notice things that others don't notice. But I'm mindful of preconceptions and stereotypes that I might have. :blushing:

 

[BrownRice]

One of my sisters takes absolutely fantastic pictures but in person is horrid.

:floorlaugh:

That is not very nice.

 

[Msollicito]

My insider just told me I need to get to the courtroom NOW otherwise I wont see the action. So on my way

 

[Chewy]

:floorlaugh:

That is not very nice.

Unfortunately it's VERY true! :floorlaugh::drumroll:

My insider just told me I need to get to the courtroom NOW otherwise I wont see the action. So on my way

I'm so excited that we will have someone there LIVE thank you so much!!!!

 

[SheltieMom1]

So I am going to the court hearing today at 1:30pm. I am going to see what I can learn and pick up from others who attend as much as to see the face of JH and try to work out what he is really thinking. I live around the corner to the court.

I'll be there as well, assuming I can find a parking space and the courtroom isn't too full!

 

[SStarr33]

It makes a difference in that there would be no need therefore for a breakfast stop and, if he were supposed to pick Cooper up from daycare, why would he start heading away from daycare when he drove away from work?

What would the bfast stop have to do with the murder? And re: the not going to daycare, that is what often happens in these cases.

 

[nursebeeme]

George Michael Plumides is Harris attorney. Google shows he was 18 mo late paying a bill and wrote bad check. Case was dismissed against Mr. Plumides. Office located N. Druid Hills Rd, Atlanta.

Name: George Michael Plumides
Status: In Good Standing
Licensed: 24 years
Law School: Atlanta Law School
Location: 1934 North Druid Hills Road
Atlanta, GA 30319

good morning lorne :seeya: I am just catching up.. could you please provide a link to this info? Thanks so much

 

[NancyA]

Yeah I can see that side of it. I was talking about the photo of him on the sofa with the baby, like others said some people have "groutchy" resting face so candid shots can't be judged too harshly.

My husband, LOL. Anecdote - we are big fans of a particular 70s classic rock band, been to a LOT of their shows and by virtue of that we are fortunate enough to have got to know and regularly socialise with the band and crew. One time after a show the lead singer asked me "Is something wrong with NancyAHubs? I saw him from the stage and he was standing there with his arms folded and a face like thunder."

He always looks like that at shows. Immobile, expressionless, not a foot tap, not a head nod - nothing to indicate he's totally blasted away by the music. Used to unnerve the hell outta me when we first met, everyone around him is rocking out and headbanging like crazy and he's standing there looking like he wants to smack someone.

 

[SStarr33]

probably around 10am I will go there to see what it is like - if there is no one there at that point I will go look around the shops in Marietta Square for a bit but I will be prepared to stay at the courthouse if necessary..
I hope that is early enough!

Apparently the media started staking out their places last night. It sounds kind of like a Black Friday situation. I am wondering if they stayed in tents

 

[CHERIE.T]

:floorlaugh:

That is not very nice.

That made me lol too. :floorlaugh:

 

[NancyA]

What would the bfast stop have to do with the murder? And re: the not going to daycare, that is what often happens in these cases.

Well, if he already had breakfast, seems odd to stop for another breakfast on the way to work - unless, as has been speculated it was to manufacture an 'out-of-routine' alibi. And if he claimed to have forgotten that he hadn't dropped Cooper off at daycare how does he explain, when he was supposed to pick him up later, not heading over to do that after work.

 

[SStarr33]

This is why I think Cooper was drugged at Chick Fil A so that he would fall asleep, and also why I think he was placed in the trunk of the car so no one would notice him too early (i.e. before he died). I think the item being put in the car at lunchtime was actually Cooper Harris in his car seat, after being extracted from the trunk.

Remember the cop said he did not think the baby was in the car at 9am. Even though the paperwork confirms Cooper was put in his car seat in the car at ChickFilA at 8:55am.. yet baby was not in the car 5 mins later at 9am as they entered Home Depot car park/ I think after making a big fuss of putting the car seat in the car in ChickFilA car park, daddy snuck the car seat into the trunk before driving to Home Depot. Later at lunchtime, once he knew baby would have died - not only due to the heat but due to being smothered and suffercated in the trunk - he took out the car seat and put it into the car, hoping someone would spot dead baby in the car before he had to leave at 4:!5.. When noone spotted it, his whole plan went awry and he panicked..

He had never thought through what he would do if baby wasn't found by 4:15.. so he did not think to go to the daycare looking for his son (fatal mistake - obviously if he really thought he had dropped off his son that is where he would have gone before leaving Home Deport). Reports say he drove in the OPPOSITE direction to the way he would have gone home at first (probably in a panic, trying to work out what to do). He realized he could not cause a big fuss when he met his friends because his friends would see through the whole thing so he stopped off somewhere he would find lots of people - in a busy car park - so he had the ultimate audience for his performance..

Wow. If all that happened, I think RH is one of the craziest murderers in the history of the world.

 

[SStarr33]

Well, if he already had breakfast, seems odd to stop for another breakfast on the way to work - unless, as has been speculated it was to manufacture an 'out-of-routine' alibi. And if he claimed to have forgotten that he hadn't dropped Cooper off at daycare how does he explain, when he was supposed to pick him up later, not heading over to do that after work.

IDK, could have just been "second breakfast"

 

[CHERIE.T]

http://mdjonline.com/view/full_stor...Harris-hearing-today?instance=home_lead_story

From the timeline. Quote from police Sgt. Dana Pierce

There is so much more that has shed light on what's going on Pierce says. What I learned from investigators shocked my conscience.

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