GA - Tara Grinstead, 29, Ocilla, 22 Oct 2005 #2 *Arrests*

[Aleph]

Sometimes a young and/or low-IQ person will give a false confession to police. But it sounds to me like this particular confession is backed up with evidence. Time will tell.


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[marable]

I have read recently that even though someone confesses to a murder/crime that there still has to be evidence to support the fact that they were the person that committed the crime????I don't know if that is true or not but I never knew that....

 

[DaisyChains]

I have read recently that even though someone confesses to a murder/crime that there still has to be evidence to support the fact that they were the person that committed the crime????I don't know if that is true or not but I never knew that....

yes this is true. Some people will give false confessions to cover for the actual guilty party or simply b/c they are not mentally competent enough to understand that they are falsely implicating themselves. Some people have even falsely confessed to murder for attention. So LE have to suss things out to make sure the REAL perp is apprehended and tried.

 

[sundrop]

Wouldn't be false if they tell you where a body is located

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[puzzleme]

Please tell?

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[angelwngs]

Personally, I wonder if the burglary is not just 'an add on' charge, which is most easily proven by the common knowledge of her handbag and keys being taken from the home. If he confessed to any of this, I think, at the very least, he confessed to leaving the home with Tara unconscious, and in her own car and that he took her handbag as well. But I sincerely think it is larger than a partial confession of being present and accidently hurting her. I think he has already fully confessed to killing her, to taking her keys and handbag and to disposing of her body to protect himself. I imagine he will say it wasn't premeditated and that 'he had no intentions of killing her' but that she either would not cooperate or would not stop screaming upon realizing his intentions. Just spit-balling, but that's how I see it playing out. Time will tell. I pray for justice and some sense of closure for her family.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I also think that many people who commit horrendous murders are able to go back into their lives without doing anything to make people suspiscious, their are thousands of unsolved murders which means their are thousands of murderers who are living within their family and nobody has an idea what they have done,

That certainly is true. One of the things that bothers me in a lot of unsolved cases is where teens or minors are missing and LE list them as runaways but yet these people are never seen or heard of again. I think many of them have been victims of homicides. It breaks my heart really that LE assumes them to be runaways just because they may have had a troubled past. All that does is make them vulnerable targets to be human trafficked and/or murdered and there are thousands of such cases where the runaways are never found alive or heard from again.

Another thing that bothers me greatly is there are thousands of pieces of good forensic evidence sitting in evidence rooms all across our nation in every state that haven't been tested for years. LE says they do not have the manpower or funds to complete all of those tests and I am certain a lot of them would point to a murderer (serial or individual) or rapist (or serial rapist) that may be already in the system from other crimes they may have committed years ago........even as juveniles. There also could be links to several unsolved cases committed by one perp if all of the forensic DNA could be tested. But since thousands of pieces of evidence haven't been tested the offender/s is free to continue to commit more violent crimes. At any given time around 33% of violent crime cases remain unsolved and that is growing with the perps getting smarter.

I don't think Duke is telling the full story not even if he told his girlfriend and she is the one who ratted him out. He knows now they will never be able to prove IF he went there to sexually assault her and she resisted. Everyone that knows him seems to be shocked and he was well liked. Imo, that is more reason he does not want to admit he is a rapist and IMOO that was his true motive for being there to begin with.

With the clay being on her tires I think he took her vehicle to dispose of her body and then brought it back. That way there would be no traces of Tara found in his own vehicle even if they had known about him. So if he was really there to steal things he didn't even go through her car looking for anything because the money she had left in it was still in her car. I sure hope the GBI took soil samples from the clay on her tires. If they find her remains they can get a sample of the clay in that area to see if it matches the clay on her tires. Even clay deposits change due to the particular environment it is found in.

I know one can legally be charged with burglary In Georgia just for invading someone's home but he did take her purse and keys so he did take possessions that didn't belong to him. I still say burglary wasnt his motivation and the taking of the keys and purse were afterthoughts after he had killed her and during the time he was leaving with her body. I think his jury will also believe that burglary wasn't there real motive for him being there. Imo, he is just trying to save face by not admitting he is not only a murderer but a rapist as well.

JMO though

 

[puzzleme]

That certainly is true. One of the things that bothers me in a lot of unsolved cases is where teens or minors are missing and LE list them as runaways but yet these people are never seen or heard of again. I think many of them have been victims of homicides. It breaks my heart really that LE assumes them to be runaways just because they may have had a troubled past. All that does is make them vulnerable targets to be human trafficked and/or murdered and there are thousands of such cases where the runaways are never found alive or heard from again.

Another thing that bothers me greatly is there are thousands of pieces of good forensic evidence sitting in evidence rooms all across our nation in every state that haven't been tested for years. LE says they do not have the manpower or funds to complete all of those tests and I am certain a lot of them would point to a murderer (serial or individual) or rapist (or serial rapist) that may be already in the system from other crimes they may have committed years ago........even as juveniles. There also could be links to several unsolved cases committed by one perp if all of the forensic DNA could be tested. But since thousands of pieces of evidence haven't been tested the offender/s is free to continue to commit more violent crimes. At any given time around 33% of violent crime cases remain unsolved and that is growing with the perps getting smarter.

I don't think Duke is telling the full story not even if he told his girlfriend and she is the one who ratted him out. He knows now they will never be able to prove IF he went there to sexually assault her and she resisted. Everyone that knows him seems to be shocked and he was well liked. Imo, that is more reason he does not want to admit he is a rapist and IMOO that was his true motive for being there to begin with.

With the clay being on her tires I think he took her vehicle to dispose of her body and then brought it back. That way there would be no traces of Tara found in his own vehicle even if they had known about him. So if he was really there to steal things he didn't even go through her car looking for anything because the money she had left in it was still in her car. I sure hope the GBI took soil samples from the clay on her tires.

I know one can legally be charged with burglary In Georgia just for invading someone's home but he did take her purse and keys so he did take possessions that didn't belong to him. I still say burglary wasnt his motivation and the taking of the keys and purse were afterthoughts after he had killed her and during the time he was leaving with her body. I think his jury will also believe that burglary wasn't there real motive for him being there. Imo, he is just trying to save face by not admitting he is not only a murderer but a rapist as well.

JMO though

Well Said! My thoughts exactly ☺

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[rpgman]

Well Said! My thoughts exactly ☺

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Agreed

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[Woe.be.gone]

Arrest Warrants for Ryan Duke

https://solvetaragrinsteadcase.wordpress.com/2017/02/25/arrest-warrants-for-ryan-duke/

Is the address noted on the warrant (in the town of Perry), Ryan Duke's address?
Perry is the town the guy HD drove for over an hour from (per Tara's mom's request) to check on Tara on Sunday night. When unable to find Tara, he left his business card on her door.
How long has RD lived in Perry? Did he live there in 2005?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

In the podcast, someone says Tara was left in a pecan field.
Map shows Pearson Farm along with Georgia Pecan Farms in Fort Valley just NW of Perry.

Is there going to be more to this story?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Come to think of it, how is it that there's a Dyke and a Duke in this case?

Also, people who observed Tara's house ignored the fact that her dog, Daisy?, was left outside?

 

[iluvmua]

Is the address noted on the warrant (in the town of Perry), Ryan Duke's address?
Perry is the town the guy HD drove for over an hour from (per Tara's mom's request) to check on Tara on Sunday night. When unable to find Tara, he left his business card on her door.
How long has RD lived in Perry? Did he live there in 2005?

RD lived in Fitzgerald in 2005.

 

[U2forever]

Come to think of it, how is it that there's a Dyke and a Duke in this case?

Also, people who observed Tara's house ignored the fact that her dog, Daisy?, was left outside?

BBM:
That's one of them there coinkydinkies.

 

[puzzleme]

Maybe when Tara let the dog out to go to the bathroom she was attacked and the attacker put the dog in the fence?

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[Woe.be.gone]

RD lived in Fitzgerald in 2005.

For certain or just what someone thinks?
RD went to Irwin H.S. but graduated in '02 (I think).
Is it possible he moved shortly after H.S.?

Wonder when and/or why he moved to Perry.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Maybe when Tara let the dog out to go to the bathroom she was attacked and the attacker put the dog in the fence?

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If the crime was random, even though the perp knew Tara, this makes the most sense to me. Still why did the neighbors and HD ignore the dog left outside?
The neighbor was supposed to see a signal light go on (but did not) and then was not upset by the dog who had been left outside?
These type of oddities mess me up and it's difficult for me to move beyond them.
When someone never leaves their indoor dog outside, but then they do, and they're not responding to phone calls, how can that behavior be ignored?

Is it true the dog was left outside?
Plus, since she left home early that day, Tara would have probably stopped home prior to the bbq to let her dog outside. Then again, when she returned home after 11:00 p.m.
Don't you think?

 

[deer]

Is the address noted on the warrant (in the town of Perry), Ryan Duke's address?
Perry is the town the guy HD drove for over an hour from (per Tara's mom's request) to check on Tara on Sunday night. When unable to find Tara, he left his business card on her door.
How long has RD lived in Perry? Did he live there in 2005?

That address is GBI office in Perry

 

[puzzleme]

If the crime was random, even though the perp knew Tara, this makes the most sense to me. Still why did the neighbors and HD ignore the dog left outside?
The neighbor was supposed to see a signal light go on (but did not) and then was not upset by the dog who had been left outside?
These type of oddities mess me up and it's difficult for me to move beyond them.
When someone never leaves their indoor dog outside, but then they do, and they're not responding to phone calls, how can that behavior be ignored?

Is it true the dog was left outside?
Plus, since she left home early that day, Tara would have probably stopped home prior to the bbq to let her dog outside. Then again, when she returned home after 11:00 p.m.
Don't you think?

Yes woe.be.gone the dog was in the fence but she Always had the dog inside when she was home. I wonder the same thing about the neighbors they were supposed to be so close why did they not notice the light not coming on and the not checking on her the next day they had to have seen her car.

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[iluvmua]

In the podcast, someone says Tara was left in a pecan field.
Map shows Pearson Farm along with Georgia Pecan Farms in Fort Valley just NW of Perry.

Is there going to be more to this story?

For certain or just what someone thinks?
RD went to Irwin H.S. but graduated in '02 (I think).
Is it possible he moved shortly after H.S.?

Wonder when and/or why he moved to Perry.

That is what locals are saying on the up and vanished forum.