GA - Twin brothers miss flight to Boston, found dead 24 hours later in Georgia mountains, 14 Mar 2025

[minazoe]

AI. ( can't find the right article
The family of 19-year-old twins, Qaadir and Naazir Lewis, found dead in Georgia's Bell Mountain, is disputing the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) ruling that their deaths were a double suicide. While the GBI's investigation points to suicide based on forensic evidence, the family maintains the twins were in fear and the gun was taken from them, not owned by them, and suggests a possible murder-suicide scenario.

 

[Miss Poovy]

basically this case is probably easy to solve on it's face and maybe they did solve it. but this case is more than just face value. it is an extremely strange web of circumstances that do not fit anywhere in with the boys known behavior, skills or whereabouts... they have no history of trouble, violent tendencies, depression or mania. they have never threatened suicide, there were no recent
traumas or failures that we know about..they were good students and very well liked.

that they were in fear and are now dead is troublesome and I think the case deserves way more scrutiny.

mOO

I’ve not read much about their lives outside of their family thoughts. For instances, friends, classmates, etc.

 

[Miss Poovy]

we need a break in this funky case that makes no sense. I just want it to make sense..emotionally and to see the actions that were taken and how they led to a double suicide. so far I hear that two fearful kids got a gun and some ammo and got info on how to use it because they were scared of something/someone, and now they are dead.

I hear that someone searched for suicide statistics for the previous year.

that's the evidence. mOO

If you believe GBI, spotted on the Flock cameras, gunshot residue, looked up how to load a gun. If I find anything odd, it would be using one gun (maybe didn’t have access to another one?) with one twin shooting before the other one did.

 

[Knox]

I took it to mean the GBI closed the case but didn't allow the family to see the file as normally would happen when a case like this is closed. JMHO.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931016752076313076

 

[Knox]

So much misinformation is being circulated.

Please the above post for the formal statement from the GBI.

 

[vls12345]

Oh I agree. I wasn't even talking about the family then either, just about people online who don't even have any connection to them, who refuse to believe it was suicide.

I don't refuse to believe suicide in general & this is a shocking & sad case. However, circumstances seem strange enough to me to question a ruling of suicide in this particular case.

The things that feel "off" to me about this case: the location of their deaths (in relation to where they lived) & the fact that a volunteer worker on scene was arrested for taking & distributing photos of them dead. (That seems suss as heck to me as photographic "souvenirs" from lynchings are a known thing.) Also, as has been pointed out, they used one gun which seems so sad, if true. If suicide, how did they decide who would die first? And then pick up the gun to kill himself next? That just seems like a strange scenario too.

I'm willing to consider suicide if I knew what all the GBI based their findings on. But, I doubt we will ever know the full extent. I also wonder why/if the family has been given more info than was publicly released? I remain cautiously skeptical on whether this was suicide or not.

Imo.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

the family maintains the twins were in fear and the gun was taken from them, not owned by them,

Can you please explain this? I don't understand the theory being described.

IMO we need to avoid the use of AI to come up with theories, because it combines multiple sources together sometimes in a way that ends up with completely false information.

 

[Charlot123]

I’ve not read much about their lives outside of their family thoughts. For instances, friends, classmates, etc.

This is what is so sad. I think their lives deserve to be known better!

 

[statt#1]

I’ve not read much about their lives outside of their family thoughts. For instances, friends, classmates, etc.

This is an interesting concept. I'll not delve in to it as it presents difficulties, however, I'll reiterate that often young folks are doing one play, whilst adults do another, and the play that is being acted out in the lives of youth isn't always known to the adults in their lives.

That being said, I have an active mind, and contemplate scenarios all the time in these cases. So this is purely a what if....it's only conjecture....what if, one twin was unaware the other was going to commit suicide, for reasons of jealousy per se, or some other reason, and upon witnessing that event the remaining twin simply could not endure, and did the same?

 

[Miss Poovy]

I don't refuse to believe suicide in general & this is a shocking & sad case. However, circumstances seem strange enough to me to question a ruling of suicide in this particular case.

The things that feel "off" to me about this case: the location of their deaths (in relation to where they lived) & the fact that a volunteer worker on scene was arrested for taking & distributing photos of them dead. (That seems suss as heck to me as photographic "souvenirs" from lynchings are a known thing.) Also, as has been pointed out, they used one gun which seems so sad, if true. If suicide, how did they decide who would die first? And then pick up the gun to kill himself next? That just seems like a strange scenario too.

I'm willing to consider suicide if I knew what all the GBI based their findings on. But, I doubt we will ever know the full extent. I also wonder why/if the family has been given more info than was publicly released? I remain cautiously skeptical on whether this was suicide or not.

Imo.

A lot of this info is in the GBI report.

 

[Miss Poovy]

This is an interesting concept. I'll not delve in to it as it presents difficulties, however, I'll reiterate that often young folks are doing one play, whilst adults do another, and the play that is being acted out in the lives of youth isn't always known to the adults in their lives.

That being said, I have an active mind, and contemplate scenarios all the time in these cases. So this is purely a what if....it's only conjecture....what if, one twin was unaware the other was going to commit suicide, for reasons of jealousy per se, or some other reason, and upon witnessing that event the remaining twin simply could not endure, and did the same?

I haven’t delved into it, but sometimes in a young person’s death, their friends, classmates will naturally (without prompting) say something about them. They were fun to be around, so talented, etc. Example: Their sister gives a glimpse into their personalities when detailing their visit with her.

 

[minazoe]

Can you please explain this? I don't understand the theory being described.

IMO we need to avoid the use of AI to come up with theories, because it combines multiple sources together sometimes in a way that ends up with completely false information.

I just re read it and it makes no sense, however family members did say the twins were afraid of something and basically the cops were not investigating this fact.

perhaps it's too early to be on TEAM SUICIDE, as a TEAM SUICIDE really isn't necessary and won't help to solve a possible crime.

to advocate for the status quo is to advocate closing the book and possibly this thread.

mOO

 

[byo]

Perhaps the brothers were being blackmailed?

 

[minazoe]

Perhaps the brothers were being blackmailed?

yes, possibly catfished with blackmail online there are some very nasty emails that show up and I have received them...they will show a picture of your house and say they know all about you and are going to expose you...

I just delete them, there is nothing to expose about me so I know it's rubbish. But they are terrifying and if you don't know better you might believe it.

 

[Miss Poovy]

yes, possibly catfished with blackmail online there are some very nasty emails that show up and I have received them...they will show a picture of your house and say they know all about you and are going to expose you...

I just delete them, there is nothing to expose about me so I know it's rubbish. But they are terrifying and if you don't know better you might believe it.

Well, I’m going to jail because I have an outside toll bridge ticket.

 

[vls12345]

I haven't seen the whole GBI report. Was it posted here? (Sorry if I missed it. Life has been busy lately.)

 

[Miss Poovy]

I haven't seen the whole GBI report. Was it posted here? (Sorry if I missed it. Life has been busy lately.)

Knox posted an GBI update, post 844.

 

[Muddy K]

This is an interesting concept. I'll not delve in to it as it presents difficulties, however, I'll reiterate that often young folks are doing one play, whilst adults do another, and the play that is being acted out in the lives of youth isn't always known to the adults in their lives.

That being said, I have an active mind, and contemplate scenarios all the time in these cases. So this is purely a what if....it's only conjecture....what if, one twin was unaware the other was going to commit suicide, for reasons of jealousy per se, or some other reason, and upon witnessing that event the remaining twin simply could not endure, and did the same?

Like you, @statt#1, I tend to chew on cases where missing pieces result in the whole being less than the sum of its parts. (Caleb Harris, for example.)

So I keep going back to what could have been that wrong,  that hard, that difficult,  that untenable, that impossible for these seemingly vibrant young brothers. What could have brought them, each together, to conclude that there was no other way out, to believe that suicide was the only thing left for them.

We say things always look better in the morning. For Naziir and Qadiir, it seems they didn't believe that was going to be true.

I think about theories like blackmail, catfishing, various social media extortions, etc., as not rising to the twins' level of desperation, precisely because they were twins and they had each other. I haven't said that well, and I'm aware of numerous suicides committed by teens as a result of online bullying or shaming. It's almost always just one despairing young person who can't see past their pain, not twins.

So, what could have been that unbearable. I don't know. But one thought. What if they were in love with each other and didn't see a place in the world for themselves in that ? As strange a theory as it may seem, I don't think it's any less outlandish than others. JMO.

Why didn't they leave a note? Did it really not matter to them that anyone else understand, matter only that  they understood?

 

[Knox]

I just re read it and it makes no sense, however family members did say the twins were afraid of something and basically the cops were not investigating this fact.

perhaps it's too early to be on TEAM SUICIDE, as a TEAM SUICIDE really isn't necessary and won't help to solve a possible crime.

to advocate for the status quo is to advocate closing the book and possibly this thread.

mOO

We all want details from the GBI to legitimize/understand their ruling.

But what about the claims being made by the family? Who did the twins tell they were scared? When? Why? I would like to hear those details.

 

[Miss Poovy]

We all want details from the GBI to legitimize/understand their ruling.

But what about the claims being made by the family? Who did the twins tell they were scared? When? Why? I would like to hear those details.

I’ve also been thinking along these same lines & you’ve stated my thoughts clearly. The claims aren’t very clear from the family.