Gas Cans discovered by George Key date - June 24, 2008 ***REVISITED ***

[SuziQ]

I think George made up the story about the gas cans on the 24th, to cover up for the fact he removed them from the car when he got it back from impound.

 

[DazzlinDebSD]

Isn't George the guy who told LE on July 16th when they brought Casey home from interogation #1 that he thought his daughter was hiding something, and he was very concerned about the baby? Isn't Cindy the person that called 911 hysterical when she found out Caylee Marie had been missing for 31 days? Correct me if I'm wrong but are they POI? Hmmmmmmmm........I could have sworn they have been cleared along with Lee, Amy, Tony, Ricardo, and the boogy man too. Why is it so hard to believe Casey is the only person involved? NG has nothing further to discuss and that's why she has LP on her show pulling things out of his hat to discuss. That's why she plays the tapes over and over again. Where's this earth shattering news LP promised we were going to hear about? Was it the park story?

Has anyone here really listened to the tapes LE put out there? Casey Anthony lives in a fantasy land and really believes she is going to walk. You would think she could come up with something more believable with the 30 days she had to brew up a story. :bang:

 

[gmt]

Caey dumped car on June 30---Amy went on trip week of July 12th. WHAT WAS CASEY DRIVING IN BETWEEN? OR WHO WAS DRIVING HER?

 

[Can't Sleep]

Caey dumped car on June 30---Amy went on trip week of July 12th. WHAT WAS CASEY DRIVING IN BETWEEN? OR WHO WAS DRIVING HER?

Thanks. This is a question that has been rattling around in my poor old brain and it just wouldn't roll out...I couldn't articulate it.

Did she just tell everyone that Caylee was at the beach...for nearly two weeks? Who let's their kid go to the beach for ten days at age 3? I wouldn't want my parents to take my child for that long and certainly not some babysitter! Just too long.

And I read that TL didn't come back from NY until July 5th and she wasn't staying at his place so WHERE WAS SHE STAYING? I was thinking that she must've been living in her car because she asked J. Grund to use his shower, but obviously she wasn't living in her car. So has anyone come forward and said, "Casey was staying with me while TL was in NY?"

 

[Auburnmommyof2]

I haven't followed every detail of this story but I have a gut feeling that GA knows way more than he has said. I think he told KC to make up the kidnapping story and told her she better stick to it or she'll get nailed.

 

[magic-cat]

The last time Caylee was seen was June 15th. Thats also the day Cindy confronts Casey. If Casey was jealous of the Caylee/Cindy relationship this would have sent her over the edge. Cindy saying you get out but Caylee gets to stay.

Anyway, picture this. They fight over Caylee physically and Caylee falls and hits her head or is shaken or whatever. Casey leaves and stays the night with TonE. The next morning she comes home to find Caylee dead from the injury she suffered during the fight. Cindy already left for work, this leaves George and Casey there to deal with it. Thats why George doesn't mention breakfast or anything else that morning before they "left". His description of the clothes/backpacks has always rang untrue - IMO

They bury her in the backyard. Later George decides to move her and calls Casey on the 24th. They move her in Casey's car or George uses Casey's car to move her.

Of course this is all just my latest - until ya'll come up with why it wouldn't work this way - theory.

It would not work this way because it is impossible that she died in the bed...bodily fluids would have been released and that evidence would be in the bed...unless they bought a new mattress...

 

[shadow of my mind]

I have posted this somewhere on this board before but why would GA even bother mentioning the gas can in the trunk of the car on 6.24 if he knew anything that Casey had done. It does not gain him anything except that there is no smell in the back of the car so the smell had to have gotten there after that date. He made a report to the police about them someone breaking in the shed and stealing them and he could have just as well left that report stand as an unresolved property theft. The police where not going to go looking for the gas cans. By bringing the story up he was acknowledging that yes Casey was responsible for the theft and in the big scheme of things he was not going to press charges on his own daughter once he found out it was her. If he had kept his mouth shut no one with know a thing about him finding them in the back of her car. Acutally by bringing it up he places casey on his property and adds another black mark on Casey's honesty.
just my opinion

 

[magic-cat]

Isn't George the guy who told LE on July 16th when they brought Casey home from interogation #1 that he thought his daughter was hiding something, and he was very concerned about the baby? Isn't Cindy the person that called 911 hysterical when she found out Caylee Marie had been missing for 31 days? Correct me if I'm wrong but are they POI? Hmmmmmmmm........I could have sworn they have been cleared along with Lee, Amy, Tony, Ricardo, and the boogy man too. Why is it so hard to believe Casey is the only person involved? NG has nothing further to discuss and that's why she has LP on her show pulling things out of his hat to discuss. That's why she plays the tapes over and over again. Where's this earth shattering news LP promised we were going to hear about? Was it the park story?

Has anyone here really listened to the tapes LE put out there? Casey Anthony lives in a fantasy land and really believes she is going to walk. You would think she could come up with something more believable with the 30 days she had to brew up a story. :bang:

IF George was her accomplice, and being LE as he was, he would KNOW that they were not going to believe her story, and so in an effort to conceal what he himself KNEW and to make it appear as if he was the concerned grandpa-then of course it is logical for him to have done that...

Cindy DID call 911 and WAS hysterical about Caylee-and even said the car smelled like a dead body had been in there...UNTIL George came home, and then wham bam thank you mam ALL of her stories changed...

And I have not seen nor heard that those that you have listed have been CLEARED...not being NAMED a POI does not mean that you are CLEARED...

 

[magic-cat]

Maybe George CAUGHT Casey AFTER she had dug her back up and put her back in the trunk...

 

[technicalconfusion]

I think LA knows the most about what happened because KC told him after being released from jail the first time. KC probably told him it was an accident and he relayed part of what he was told to CA. GA probably knows the least because he is too volatile and they don't trust him.[/QUOTE]

Caey dumped car on June 30---Amy went on trip week of July 12th. WHAT WAS CASEY DRIVING IN BETWEEN? OR WHO WAS DRIVING HER?

AH's car.

Did she just tell everyone that Caylee was at the beach...for nearly two weeks? Who let's their kid go to the beach for ten days at age 3? I wouldn't want my parents to take my child for that long and certainly not some babysitter! Just too long.

And I read that TL didn't come back from NY until July 5th and she wasn't staying at his place so WHERE WAS SHE STAYING? I was thinking that she must've been living in her car because she asked J. Grund to use his shower, but obviously she wasn't living in her car. So has anyone come forward and said, "Casey was staying with me while TL was in NY?"

She told a couple of different stories, the beach, at universal. Read the 400 page document - it's all in there.

She stayed at friends houses while AL was away.

 

[shadow of my mind]

Caey dumped car on June 30---Amy went on trip week of July 12th. WHAT WAS CASEY DRIVING IN BETWEEN? OR WHO WAS DRIVING HER?

Casey dumped the car sometime before 7:00Am on the morning of 6.27 as per statement of the lady at the Amscot building. It was not there when she left the previous day. It was towed on the 6.30. GA & CA picked it up from the tow yard on 7.15 the same day that Amy returned from P. Rico and CA found Casey with Amy's help at TonE's apartment. Amy left for P. Rico on 7.8 and did not return to 7.15. Casey had Amy's car while she was away and yes I have posted the same question a few times. What was she driving or who was she getting rides from since in not one statement that we have seen so far is the question asked to anyone nor did anyone volunteer any information like Casey was always hitting me up for a ride. Somehere she must have mentioned to Amy about her car being in the shop but I just can't remember where it would have been except for the statment given to LE. She had to be driving something from the 6.27 to 7.8
As far as bringing the gas cans back into play when GA opened the trunk at the tow yard in view of the the man [can't remember his name off the top of my head] there were no gas cans in the trunk. GA retrieved a gas can from his car and put gas in Casey's car in view of the yard guy after making the comment that the car was out of gas when he open the drivers door. The car was suppose to have a sometimes works sometimes doesn't work gas gage.
Two things that I do not known is if that car had a gas gage that registers how much is in the tank without the key being turned on for GA to see that he needed to put gas in it and if in fact that the gage was faulty and could show no gas when there was which is why GA came prepared with gas since Casey has run out of gas in this same way before.

 

[Leila]

I think George made up the story about the gas cans on the 24th, to cover up for the fact he removed them from the car when he got it back from impound.

I think so too. I think George found the gas cans in the Pontiac when he brought it back from the impound yard and proceeded to put them back in the shed. This could be considered tampering with evidence, as LE confiscated the car and contents.

It was sometime in late July that George and Cindy spent about 5 hours meeting with LE at the OCSO. When George returned home, he was accompanied by LE who went to the shed and removed the gas cans and also took bags of clothing.

 

[Zoe Bogart]

On Nancy Grace tonight, Leonard put out a theory of his. He stated that on the 23th of June, Casey made quite a few telephone calls. He does not think that Casey could move a body in bad shape by herself because of how awkward a decomposed body would be. He then said he believes someone helped her.

She could have toted the poor child's body if she put it into something, such as a duffle bag and carried it in her arms, or if she put it in luggage with wheels. She wouldn't want anyone to see her, for sure.

The longer this goes on, the more I'm suspecting there was someone else involved. The only thing that makes me think it wasn't family, or at least not Cindy, is her 911 call of desperation when she found out the child was missing.

George? Perhaps he did help try to cover up the death.

BUT, I'm thinking it could have been someone she called who had to come to the location where she and Caylee were. Lee? Tony? Another friend?

The family is acting more guilty than the friends, imo. I know they are at their wits' end. Is it because they are guilty? One is guilty and all are covering up? Or is it just because they are in terrible situation? Who would Casey be covering for? George? Lee? Tony? Another friend?

It's all so insane. A child is missing and none of them are doing anything constructive to find her, not even her mother. It's an awful puzzle. Terribly sad for the child.

Just for the record, I thought George was too forthcoming and too exact about the gas cans, but I'm not sure if he is guilty of assisting with the disposal, or if he's just trying to save Casey by trying to discolor the facts.

As for Lee, I thought he was innocent and trying to pump Casey for information during the first telephone call, but I do believe something seriously and dramatically changed later, because in another call, he and Casey spoke in half sentences which seemed highly coded. He may have found out the truth after telephone call #1 and thus, began his coverup, too.

Frankly, I believe if any family members are covering Casey's rear on this, they should be behind bars for a long time.

 

[Leila]

Thanks. This is a question that has been rattling around in my poor old brain and it just wouldn't roll out...I couldn't articulate it.

Did she just tell everyone that Caylee was at the beach...for nearly two weeks? Who let's their kid go to the beach for ten days at age 3? I wouldn't want my parents to take my child for that long and certainly not some babysitter! Just too long.

And I read that TL didn't come back from NY until July 5th and she wasn't staying at his place so WHERE WAS SHE STAYING? I was thinking that she must've been living in her car because she asked J. Grund to use his shower, but obviously she wasn't living in her car. So has anyone come forward and said, "Casey was staying with me while TL was in NY?"

Casey stayed with Amy part of the time. Amy stated that she had put away some cash for her trip to PR. When she went to retrieve it, it was gone. Casey was there and told Amy that she saw Amy sleepwalking in the middle of the night and saw her go get the cash. This turned out to be the cash that Casey stole from Amy (and then tried to tell Amy that she had taken it somewhere when she was sleep walking).

 

[Zoe Bogart]

I agree with those who said George would certainly know about decomposition, making murder/killing appear accidental, know about disposing of a body where no one could find it (especially if the Florida swamps, etc.), and he would definitely know how to spin a kidnapping tale, so how did it all go so haywire? This and this alone makes me think George was not in on it in the beginning but was trying to cover Casey after the fact with the made up stories, the gas cans, seeing them on the 16th, whatever. If he knew that body had been in the trunk, I don't think he would have just let Casey abandon it. He would have burned it or dumped into water, anything but abandon it, knowing full well the owner could easily be traced (remember, every vehicle has a VIN). No, I think the car thing was all Casey's idea.

 

[tehcloser]

In NO way do I think she did, but knowing what we do of Cindy now, she could have faked those 911 calls. Just sayin'.

 

[Maddywv]

I don't not think either CA or GA know the real story. I think they live in denial. They don't want to know the truth. LA may know the important part of the truth which is Caylee is some place better than earth. That is why he can NOT take a lie test and why his parents can't. What would it look like if they did and he refused?

 

[eg@gm]

I ABSOLUTELY do not believe that George had any involvement in HARMING Caylee...but I think he, or someone else helped her, and who else are you going to turn to in this situation but a father who has adored you and sheltered you and "bailed you out" a thousand times before...I still feel sorry for the entire family. Believing a thing could have occurred does not minimize my compassion and sympathy for them. They have lost their granddaughter and are in danger of also losing their ONLY daughter...so of course, I am sympathetic to that. But I refuse to put on blinders and believe all of their -eyed stories that simply do not add up. When one and one equals four, then there is something wrong in the math...jmo

My dad loves me too but I would never ask for his help in disposing of his only grandchild because I killed her. This is not the movies!

 

[catherineb]

I think they all know the truth now...

But it was either LA or GA that "helped" Casey. Most likely LA.

 

[Crabcake23]

didn't lp or tony say in the chat that he believed it was a male accomplice that was not part of the family but a friend? does anyone else remember that? not sure but i think thats what he said.

If he did, then maybe it was the Marine? Where was he around the middle/end of June?