General Discussion #7

[terminatrixator]

Wow very interesting indeed, I guess they need Raven's Mommy's address.

 

[Jenifred]

Just a little aside here--Even if Mommy and Jim Dear move, you bet your bottom dollar that we will be able to figure out their new address too. Not that hard!!

 

[terminatrixator]

Just a little aside here--Even if Mommy and Jim Dear move, you bet your bottom dollar that we will be able to figure out their new address too. Not that hard!!

Good Deal!

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I have a question. I've been very fortunate that I haven't had to endure such a horrendous experience as this. In the case of a spouse who is not reaching out to LE (for whatever reason) but is believed by LE to be innocent, does LE reach out to that spouse with updates on the case? Do they reach out to that spouse to offer resources for coping with the loss? In other words, does LE make a point of maintaining contact with an innocent spouse that doesn't maintain contact with them? Would that differ if the innocent spouse were to move out of the jurisdiction in which their spouse's murder occured?

We can't know one way or the other however - if Raven's phone isn't ringing with regular updates from LE, could those around him infer that that might have something to do with whether or not LE believes he's guilty?

 

[JustJax]

Some of you have been asking about this picture of Raven and Kaiden sitting at a desk and I was lucky enough to find it on the internet.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Some of you have been asking about this picture of Raven and Kaiden sitting at a desk and I was lucky enough to find it on the internet.


http://i1.tinypic.com/n2n0xu.jpg

OMG, thank you SO much! That's just the picture we've been needing!

 

[JustJax]

Your welcome!

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Some of you have been asking about this picture of Raven and Kaiden sitting at a desk and I was lucky enough to find it on the internet.


http://i1.tinypic.com/n2n0xu.jpg

Copied from another thread:

The only computer components visible in the pic are the monitor, the keyboard, and something else (that we discussed at great length in the past -lol). That something else is cleary not a tower. So as far as that picture is concerned, there is nothing to show that Raven was using a desktop computer the day before the murder. And if what BirdHunter has said on another thread is true, that Janet was able to e-mail with her friends when Raven allowed her to use his laptop, it sounds as if there was at least no other computer in the house with Internet access.

P.S. If you get a chance, Spanky, could you post this picture in the case info thread too? That way we know where it is if we need it again in the future. Thanks so much.

 

[JustJax]

Done.

 

[terminatrixator]

It's a data port.

This picture seems so much like the real Raven, he looks evil and even having Kaiden sitting on his lap, doesn't soften Raven up. It's like you can see the essence of Evil spewing off Raven. Gives me the chills looking at this picture.

 

[SouthEastSleuth]

Interesting article from today's Durham Herald-Sun (I've posted some extracts, whole article at link.):


"26 of 37 slayings solved in 2005

[font='Times New Roman',serif]By BriAnne Dopart, The Herald-Sun
February 2, 2006 10:05 pm [/font]

DURHAM -- Durham police closed the book Tuesday on another 2005 murder, but 11 remain unsolved from a year that saw 37 slayings."................

"Cpl. Jack Cates, a homicide investigator, takes satisfaction in putting Bass behind bars. But he also knows the agonizing wait for an arrest can take a toll on families and friends who lost a loved one to murder.

The homicide unit continues to pursue so-called "cold" cases, Cates said, and "walks every lead" in trying to bring closure to each victim's family.

Cates said he was proud of the success rate of the Homicide Unit, but added "we would love to [solve] all 37" and are pursuing leads daily.

Eleven unsolved murders means 26 were solved -- 69 percent of 2005's homicides. Cates said he would proudly compare that success "against any other unit in the state."

"Our homicide clearance rage compares very favorably to cities our size," said police spokeswoman Kammie Michael, adding, "We're doing better than the national average for cities our size and overall," she said.

National statistics published by the FBI show that cities of comparable population to Durham saw a 58.6 percent clearance rate for homicides.

Annual clearance rates, according to the Michael, account for arrests connected with murders occurring both that year and in prior years.

Durham's homicide clearance rate has been increasing since 2001, when the city saw only a 43 percent clearance rate.

Michael said that the still-unsolved quadruple homicide on Alpine Road in November strongly affected the clearance rate for 2005.

"When you're looking at 37 homicides, four [homicides] is a large percentage of that," Michael said.

Michael added that police have suspects in "some" of the 11 unsolved cases, and that all of them are being "actively investigated."

The portion of Durham County outside the city limits saw three homicides in 2005. Those cases are all unsolved." ..........


Staff writer John Stevenson contributed to this article.


http://www.herald-sun.com/durham/4-697223.html

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

http://www.herald-sun.com/durham/4-697223.html

Very interesting.

"... police have suspects in "some" of the 11 unsolved cases, and that all of them are being "actively investigated."

"The vast majority were not random incidents. That is ... the victim and the suspect had some relationship," Bell said. (finally an explanation of "random"?)

... Only three 2005 slayings are listed as random."

I wonder which 3 of these are the random crimes:

The Durham News | Around Town

 

[terminatrixator]

Whether or not he's publicly named as POI or Suspect doesn't change my feelings.

I believe he is 100% stone cold guilty and I do believe one day, in a Court of Law, this fact will be proven and there will be Justice on Earth for Janet Marie Christiansen and her unborn child.:behindbar

 

[ewwwinteresting]

Whether or not he's publicly named as POI or Suspect doesn't change my feelings.

I believe he is 100% stone cold guilty and I do believe one day, in a Court of Law, this fact will be proven and there will be Justice on Earth for Janet Marie Christiansen and her unborn child.:behindbar

Really Term?? I haven't gotten that impression from any of your posts

 

[ewwwinteresting]

Interesting article SES. Thanks for posting it.

When I read it, it's almost as if LE is telling the familes of the unsolved murders, Don't worry we haven't forgotten your case and telling the POI and suspects, Don't worry, we will get you.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

From the timeline thread:

May, 2005

07: The funeral for Janet was held at noon at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Buena Vista, Va., where she attended Southern Virginia University.

09: Janet's family participated in a memorial in her hometown at 11 a.m. at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Annandale, Va.

I can't remember - was Raven in attendance at the memorial in Annandale?

 

[Moxie]

From the timeline thread:

May, 2005

07: The funeral for Janet was held at noon at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Buena Vista, Va., where she attended Southern Virginia University.

09: Janet's family participated in a memorial in her hometown at 11 a.m. at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Annandale, Va.

I can't remember - was Raven in attendance at the memorial in Annandale?

Oh yes.

He was there.

 

[terminatrixator]

Interesting article SES. Thanks for posting it.

When I read it, it's almost as if LE is telling the familes of the unsolved murders, Don't worry we haven't forgotten your case and telling the POI and suspects, Don't worry, we will get you.

This is how I read it too, and having dealt with LE my entire life, I believe this to be the matter here.

Ewww, I tried Anger Management Classes, are they not working?? :razz:

Truth is, the classes P'd me off.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

So the funeral was on the 7th in Buena Vista and the memorial service was on the 9th in Annandale. How close or far are these locations from each other? If anyone knows, where were Raven and Kaiden staying at the time? Did they travel to Virginia from out of state? Were they staying with family or friends or did everyone see him on the 7th and then not again until the 9th. In other words, during this time, is there any period of time for which Raven was unaccounted?

 

[juliagoulia]

Annadale is not very far away...just a few hours.

I believe Raven, Kaiden and his mother stayed at "The Knight Guest House" at Southern Virginia University the day prior to the funeral in Buena Vista ( [url="http://www.southernvirginia.edu/abt/photoTour.php"]http://www.southernvirginia.edu/abt/photoTour.php ).[/url] I personally saw his VX parked there and assumed that was where he was staying.

Raven and the family members left Buena Vista after the funeral to travel to the burial site. So he would have only been in Buena Vista for the day before and the day of the funeral.

(Sorry for all the edits!)