General theory thread and motives rehashed #2

[Peliman]

My theory is this. I'm sure LE would love to find Haleigh and bring this case to a close. My theory is LE knows what happened and are getting no believable information from the Cummings or Croslins and are simply fed up.

I also think the SA and judges are Fed up. I don't expect the judges to go lightly on any of the drug convictions. Their all liars and deserve what they get. RC was uncooperative during the investigation and wouldn't meet with LE.

I do believe LE is trying to conduct what they call a victimology investigation, which basically investigates everyone connected in the case. All Ron's family, Crystals family, all co-workers, associates, friends and business contacts, including JO.

I'm sure it's difficult to conduct an investigation with an uncooperative witness or family. I find this unacceptable under any terms, legal or not.

While at some point I do expect some kind of charges, it wont be because of the willingness of the Cummings or Croslins.

I agree with "They deserve what they get" I'm sure LE feels likewise.

 

[seeking truth]

if you go back & look, a lot of Misty's inconsistencies didn't start until Ron & Teresa put their spins on her original statements. Take the lock, for instance...Misty said it didn't look pried. Ron said it did. & I think LE said it didn't. It was reported that Misty picked Haleigh up from the busstop. Ron said he did. which is it? since the Misty picked her up statement, came from an outside witness, I'm going with his statement. His details were a lot more believable than Ron's. Misty said there was a fight over a gun. Ron said there wasn't. I think it has now been pretty well established that there was indeed a fight. Misty said that they were all in the same bed, & Ron even said that Haleigh was taken from his bed, but then the mattress story came out. Now, who would benefit from that change? It was reported that Jr saw a man in black, take his sister. Ron said it didn't happen. Ron told Geraldo that he never beat women or took drugs. But it has been reported again & again that he has beaten women, (teen girls) & the bust proves he is most definantly a drug user & dealer. Ron said that he worked a full 8 hour shift, his minister said Ron worked 8 hours, but then that work shift just kept getting longer & longer. Why??? When Ron got married, TN said it was because they were so in love, & that's what Haleigh wanted? Oh really??? After that huge fight, Misty's weekend with another man, & then Haleigh missing? (while in Misty's care,) Ron loved her? I'm sorry, but that just can't be-not unless he knew she wasn't responsible. & Misty & her mom said that Ron paid for her tattoo. He said he didn't. Which is it? Well, going by his track record of getting caught in lies, I've gotta go with Misty on that one.

WOW! Dodie20!

What an outstanding list. Think of the work it takes to put all of this together. Do investigators in a crime like this sit down for hours and days, weeks and months, compiling lists from all available "evidence," such as media interviews, their own interviews (or "players" refusal to be interviewed), and all behaviors of those who surround a victim; comparing and contrasting, until it looks like what you have just presented?

Incredible. Thanks.

 

[SoSueMe]

I suppose I am just flat out stumped. With all the lies, I'm confused as to who had any part in this at all. The only one I'm not confused about is RC. I feel like he is culpable in some way, shape or form. His behavior defies logic and some of those questionable behaviors are described in Dodie20's post above.

I'm going to stick with one of my original theories that Ron told Misty to give Haleigh something to sleep. Misty accidentally overdosed her and she died. Ron blames Misty, so Misty feels obligated to keep their secret because she feels soley responsible. In truth, Ron knows he will also be held responsible because he gave the order to give Haleigh something and it was probably an illegal drug.

It's the only thing I can come up with as to why Misty is holding out coupled with Ron's strange behavior.

As for Tommy, I don't know what he had to do with it. For all I know, maybe he babysat for Misty while she ran out somewhere and something happened during that time. I just don't know anymore. Tommy wouldn't cover for Ron (at least not this long), so if he is covering for someone it must be for himself, his baby sister or he doesn't know anything at all. Take your pick, toss a coin.

And that's all I know.

 

[Justin Tyme]

if you go back & look, a lot of Misty's inconsistencies didn't start until Ron & Teresa put their spins on her original statements. Take the lock, for instance...Misty said it didn't look pried. Ron said it did. & I think LE said it didn't. It was reported that Misty picked Haleigh up from the busstop. Ron said he did. which is it? since the Misty picked her up statement, came from an outside witness, I'm going with his statement. His details were a lot more believable than Ron's. Misty said there was a fight over a gun. Ron said there wasn't. I think it has now been pretty well established that there was indeed a fight. Misty said that they were all in the same bed, & Ron even said that Haleigh was taken from his bed, but then the mattress story came out. Now, who would benefit from that change? It was reported that Jr saw a man in black, take his sister. Ron said it didn't happen. Ron told Geraldo that he never beat women or took drugs. But it has been reported again & again that he has beaten women, (teen girls) & the bust proves he is most definantly a drug user & dealer. Ron said that he worked a full 8 hour shift, his minister said Ron worked 8 hours, but then that work shift just kept getting longer & longer. Why??? When Ron got married, TN said it was because they were so in love, & that's what Haleigh wanted? Oh really??? After that huge fight, Misty's weekend with another man, & then Haleigh missing? (while in Misty's care,) Ron loved her? I'm sorry, but that just can't be-not unless he knew she wasn't responsible. & Misty & her mom said that Ron paid for her tattoo. He said he didn't. Which is it? Well, going by his track record of getting caught in lies, I've gotta go with Misty on that one.

Thank you for this post. I'm impressed! If LE would compile their info this way perhaps they could see the light at the end of this l-o-n-g tunnel. I may be wrong but I think that LE turns a blind eye to what is obvious. I wish that someone would peel that teflon coat off of RC and do what needs to be done ASAP. I think that LE has put too much effort into what they were being told ie lies and rumors, than trying to read the people and their actions which are more telling. JMO

 

[cluciano63]

Maybe you should send that list to PC LE. It really seems to nail down a lot of the he said/she said and Misty seems to come out far better than RC in my opinion...

 

[Whisperer]

The fact that rc hired an attorney right out of the gate tells all of us what we need to know about him. His first attorneys were hired to protect rc from the media and the LE (their words). It is easy to see his motives and his thinking...ron cares about himself. After the attorneys are in place, TN gets on the band wagon and does all of his interviews and speaks for him. She gave us all the facts and told the story as if she was present even up to the point of how they sleep in the bedroom and NEVER close their door...hmm.

This set of Attorneys left after the custody case. They even managed to cast some doubt on Crystal and Marie, thus pumping up the crowds to gather around rc...they were worth their weight in gold because LE couldn't question him and some of the public believed rc was a great father which helped with his PR image.

However, when they quit, the announced they were glad to get out of that "Fray"...not exactly a good choice of words describing the Cummings Clan. RC immediately hired an expereinced Criminal Defense Attorney to protect him but none for misty. When he got in trouble with rat (incident), he had to amp up his protection against public scrutiny and image so his mommy hired Nejame (to sway public opinion). TN had a problem...she didn't want it to look like it was just image related for her son, so she had to suddenly (six months later) make it look like they were searching for a "Live" Haleigh....so Nejame gets TM involved.

We now have a situation where tn, rc and misty are not talking to LE and haven't been since March...it is now September. TM attempts to get info for LE and find Haleigh; we now know where that has taken the case.

RC and misty had shut down since the very beginning. Despite the number of attempts to discuss the case with either of them, it was not happening. tn does not have a good relationship with LE, so she tried this other way to help her ronny. To get to the bottom of this, tn needs to be explored and questioned by LE. Why did she send "A family member" to the MH that night? Why didn't she go herself? There's is likely an answer and a piece of information that may solve the case right there. I think rc was in a terrible state the entire day and had called his mother many times.

We know rc is paranoid, but we don't know if he is involved with Haleigh disappearing. The fact that he needed a criminal defense attorney to help protect him, along with his mother doing his talking, could be a defensive mood or just be his way of dealing with everything.

Personally, the Cobra tapes tell me alot. The fact that once again he cleverly avoided a timeline concerning his work hours speaks volumnes. There is absolutely NO reason for him to have used the words he chose to describe the time when LE wanted to know what took him so long to get home. He is hiding something big.

I wanted LE to crack them and people think because they are locked up that LE can talk to them....not the case. These two have lawyered up and LE's hands are tied. misty can continue to take polys till the cows come home but they are not going to be used in a court of law. rc...well, they will get nothing out of him but they have known his game from day one and that is why they have pressed the Croslins so hard. TN will sue eventually, she is just biding her time and waiting for LE to make one mistake. The cummings family have been side-stepping the law for years. I noticed they never keep the same lawyer either. Lawyers may get smart like Snider did and say, "Enough, I am getting out while the getting is good". Tim Miller said similar things and we hear nothing from NeJame.

TN and rc both know what happened to Haleigh and tn was protecting misty because it made ron look better for her to do so. What needs to found out is to know exactly when rc called tn that day and why. Why do the lies start Sunday, almost 24 hours before Haleigh was reported missing? Why wasn't tn available...where was she and what was she doing?

My guess is that misty was not availbale at 3:30 when rc went to the bus stop. He may have left the kids alone till he could find misty and that is why he is so sure he locked the back door. He may have done this before and locked the kids inside the MH when he had to go to work. When did misty arrive and under what circumstances did she arrive? Did something happen to Haleigh when left by herself? Heck, I don't even know if jr was there at the time...he may have been with AS.

 

[Whisperer]

ron definitely wanst to make sure that A/C man is placed at the MH that day. I can assume that is somebody that backs up rc's story about something so he is the most important person to rc with this case. The A/C guy must establish a timeline of sorts. Misty mentions him and never leaves him out of the story.

TN and rc also make sure the media knows this man was there. Who is this guy and what does he have to say?

OTOH, misty doesn't mention AS's visit which was much more important to the timeline. misty never brought it up or mentioned the shirts being changed at the time or helping AS carry clothes in the house....this is very strange.

 

[dodie20]

Most people base their opinion of Ron's innocence, on his passed poly, the fact that he was at work, & the fact that LE has cleared him. Well, as far as I'm concerned, those are 3 of the most unreliable factors, in this case. & even though there are no facts pointing to Joe, they are just as willing to believe he is involved. They point to his criminal background, his lawyering up, his being in town, & his suspicious behavior afterwards. When the lack of facts are pointed out, these same people point their fingers at Misty. I've really thought about this, & I think LE has these 3 locked up for a reason. With as many drugs being sold in that area, I don't believe LE was worried that this group was a danger. They were so small time, they had to be set up. & like it or not, Ronald was one of the ones set up. so yeah, they wanted Ronald too. They are all 3 involved in Haleigh's death. The question is...which one actually killed her? Ron? Misty? Tommy? & the 2nd question is... why are they all staying quiet? If Tommy did the deed, would the other 2 cover for him? NO. If Misty was guilty, would they cover for her? maybe. If Ron is guilty, would they cover for him? again, maybe. So, according to my thinkings, Tommy is the least likely-unless the other 2 don't know. but if they don't know, I would've expected more vocal outrage from the other 2. Misty is the 2nd likely-but I'd have to believe that Tommy's brotherly loyalty is stronger than his wife & kids loyalty, & that Ron is ridiculously in love with Misty. Ron, is the most likely, but a few extra variables need to be considered. How much does Misty love Ronald? How strong is her loyalty to him? Would Tommy take his chance with a no contest? why not just turn him in? If Ronald wasn't involved, he would've beaten the answers out of Misty, so one way or another, he knows exactly what happened. If he's not guilty, then why hasn't he spoken up? If it was Misty, how could he stay, live, sleep, & sell drugs with her? We know from Tommy's lawyer, that LE isn't interested in working with him. Ron's lawyer has admitted to trying to work a plea, but that hasn't really panned out. Misty's lawyer seems to be in fight mode. Is she finally talking? She looks bad, so maybe...but maybe the stress of LE's relentless pressure is finally taking a physical toll. I guess time will tell. If Tommy gets the max, & he isn't the killer, I look for him to talk, after his sentencing.

 

[SoSueMe]

I think at this point Misty is thinking she will get 25 years on the drug charges, so why talk now? I just hope someone has approached her with the possibility of a much lighter term if she comes clean. What does this girl not understand about this situation?

Frankly, I'm wondering if Ron will talk (blame Misty) if it gets right down to the wire. Although I canNOT imagine the DA wanting to work a deal with a father who might have withheld this type of information.

I agree as to Tommy. If he gets the max I think he'd be willing to flip on anyone.

 

[Baznme]

Most people base their opinion of Ron's innocence, on his passed poly, the fact that he was at work, & the fact that LE has cleared him. Well, as far as I'm concerned, those are 3 of the most unreliable factors, in this case. & even though there are no facts pointing to Joe, they are just as willing to believe he is involved. They point to his criminal background, his lawyering up, his being in town, & his suspicious behavior afterwards. When the lack of facts are pointed out, these same people point their fingers at Misty. I've really thought about this, & I think LE has these 3 locked up for a reason. With as many drugs being sold in that area, I don't believe LE was worried that this group was a danger. They were so small time, they had to be set up. & like it or not, Ronald was one of the ones set up. so yeah, they wanted Ronald too. They are all 3 involved in Haleigh's death. The question is...which one actually killed her? Ron? Misty? Tommy? & the 2nd question is... why are they all staying quiet? If Tommy did the deed, would the other 2 cover for him? NO. If Misty was guilty, would they cover for her? maybe. If Ron is guilty, would they cover for him? again, maybe. So, according to my thinkings, Tommy is the least likely-unless the other 2 don't know. but if they don't know, I would've expected more vocal outrage from the other 2. Misty is the 2nd likely-but I'd have to believe that Tommy's brotherly loyalty is stronger than his wife & kids loyalty, & that Ron is ridiculously in love with Misty. Ron, is the most likely, but a few extra variables need to be considered. How much does Misty love Ronald? How strong is her loyalty to him? Would Tommy take his chance with a no contest? why not just turn him in? If Ronald wasn't involved, he would've beaten the answers out of Misty, so one way or another, he knows exactly what happened. If he's not guilty, then why hasn't he spoken up? If it was Misty, how could he stay, live, sleep, & sell drugs with her? We know from Tommy's lawyer, that LE isn't interested in working with him. Ron's lawyer has admitted to trying to work a plea, but that hasn't really panned out. Misty's lawyer seems to be in fight mode. Is she finally talking? She looks bad, so maybe...but maybe the stress of LE's relentless pressure is finally taking a physical toll. I guess time will tell. If Tommy gets the max, & he isn't the killer, I look for him to talk, after his sentencing.

BBM - Although I agree with most of your post, the words I bolded I do not agree with. He does not love that girl. He's used her AND her brother to protect his own butt. He may have had her convinced he loved her to keep her loyal and quiet and I might add I really feel it was Tommy that was threatened by RC if he opened his mouth. IMO, it's a toss up as to who will spill the beans first. Tommy or Misty. Lindsey has taken the kids and gone her own way, so the threat of any harm coming to Tommy's family has been taken out of the equation. Misty seems to be realizing that she has been royally used and may be, at least I hope she is being advised by her attorney to stop protecting RC and tell the truth for her own sake. Throughout the past year and a half, it's RC that has been the most elusive, the most adamant about NOT talking, avoiding any exposure, etc., etc. When you're the father of a missing child, none of that makes any sense UNLESS you know exactly what happened but do not want to talk about it. JMO

 

[seeking truth]

The fact that rc hired an attorney right out of the gate tells all of us what we need to know about him. His first attorneys were hired to protect rc from the media and the LE (their words). It is easy to see his motives and his thinking...ron cares about himself. After the attorneys are in place, TN gets on the band wagon and does all of his interviews and speaks for him. She gave us all the facts and told the story as if she was present even up to the point of how they sleep in the bedroom and NEVER close their door...hmm.

This set of Attorneys left after the custody case. They even managed to cast some doubt on Crystal and Marie, thus pumping up the crowds to gather around rc...they were worth their weight in gold because LE couldn't question him and some of the public believed rc was a great father which helped with his PR image.

However, when they quit, the announced they were glad to get out of that "Fray"...not exactly a good choice of words describing the Cummings Clan. RC immediately hired an expereinced Criminal Defense Attorney to protect him but none for misty. When he got in trouble with rat (incident), he had to amp up his protection against public scrutiny and image so his mommy hired Nejame (to sway public opinion). TN had a problem...she didn't want it to look like it was just image related for her son, so she had to suddenly (six months later) make it look like they were searching for a "Live" Haleigh....so Nejame gets TM involved.

We now have a situation where tn, rc and misty are not talking to LE and haven't been since March...it is now September. TM attempts to get info for LE and find Haleigh; we now know where that has taken the case.

RC and misty had shut down since the very beginning. Despite the number of attempts to discuss the case with either of them, it was not happening. tn does not have a good relationship with LE, so she tried this other way to help her ronny. To get to the bottom of this, tn needs to be explored and questioned by LE. Why did she send "A family member" to the MH that night? Why didn't she go herself? There's is likely an answer and a piece of information that may solve the case right there. I think rc was in a terrible state the entire day and had called his mother many times.

We know rc is paranoid, but we don't know if he is involved with Haleigh disappearing. The fact that he needed a criminal defense attorney to help protect him, along with his mother doing his talking, could be a defensive mood or just be his way of dealing with everything.

Personally, the Cobra tapes tell me alot. The fact that once again he cleverly avoided a timeline concerning his work hours speaks volumnes. There is absolutely NO reason for him to have used the words he chose to describe the time when LE wanted to know what took him so long to get home. He is hiding something big.

I wanted LE to crack them and people think because they are locked up that LE can talk to them....not the case. These two have lawyered up and LE's hands are tied. misty can continue to take polys till the cows come home but they are not going to be used in a court of law. rc...well, they will get nothing out of him but they have known his game from day one and that is why they have pressed the Croslins so hard. TN will sue eventually, she is just biding her time and waiting for LE to make one mistake. The cummings family have been side-stepping the law for years. I noticed they never keep the same lawyer either. Lawyers may get smart like Snider did and say, "Enough, I am getting out while the getting is good". Tim Miller said similar things and we hear nothing from NeJame.

TN and rc both know what happened to Haleigh and tn was protecting misty because it made ron look better for her to do so. What needs to found out is to know exactly when rc called tn that day and why. Why do the lies start Sunday, almost 24 hours before Haleigh was reported missing? Why wasn't tn available...where was she and what was she doing?

My guess is that misty was not availbale at 3:30 when rc went to the bus stop. He may have left the kids alone till he could find misty and that is why he is so sure he locked the back door. He may have done this before and locked the kids inside the MH when he had to go to work. When did misty arrive and under what circumstances did she arrive? Did something happen to Haleigh when left by herself? Heck, I don't even know if jr was there at the time...he may have been with AS.

You cover a lot of issues here, Whisperer. Great post. :dance: (No disrespect meant to HaLeigh or to the seriousness of the subjects we are all discussing here by this dancing emoticon).

I've got a question for you: What causes you to think that Teresa will sue the police, or any LE agency? I was kinda taken aback by that, for the simple fact that I agree wholeheartedly with you about this: I believe that Teresa knows exactly what happened to her granddaughter and that she has lied repeatedly since the very beginning. Wouldn't Teresa be placing herself in a position of greater scrutiny if she were to sue anyone?

I also bolded the part where you state that Ron picked up HaLeigh from the bus stop. I don't think that happened, as there are witnesses who state it was Misty. Have you read or listened to something that causes you to believe it was really Ron who picked her up that last day? I'm curious as to why you believe that Misty was not around at this time (when HaLeigh got off of the bus).

Here's another question (guess I have more than one!):

Why do you think Ron locked the kids alone in the house to go to work? Sadly, I can believe he may have left his children alone in the house at times. (Hank Croslin, Sr. attested to that, I think, and I have a soft spot for that guy. He is a genuine human being, admitting to his own flaws and those of his family's, urging them to be honest ~ especially his little girl. There is a love for his family, and Little HaLeigh, that can't be denied, in my opinion. Hank comes across as sincere and basically honest; not quick to lie like his son, Tommy. I base that on the tapes of Tommy and Lindsy and the ease with which he tells his wife to lie to her family about a large amount of money coming in). I just don't think that on this day, Monday, February 9, 2010, Ron Cummings had any intention of showing up for work; not initially.

As you state and I agree, there seems to have been a lot going on before this Monday afternoon and Ron had quite possibly been extremely upset all weekend, though we don't know at what point Misty came back into the picture. Teresa and Annette really have muddied the waters there, with different accounts. :croc:

Your post is so chock-full of things to talk about I think I'll post this and then come at ya with some more things to hash out!

All these things I have written are my OPINIONS.

 

[Emeralgem]

You cover a lot of issues here, Whisperer. Great post. :dance: (No disrespect meant to HaLeigh or to the seriousness of the subjects we are all discussing here by this dancing emoticon).

I've got a question for you: What causes you to think that Teresa will sue the police, or any LE agency? I was kinda taken aback by that, for the simple fact that I agree wholeheartedly with you about this: I believe that Teresa knows exactly what happened to her granddaughter and that she has lied repeatedly since the very beginning. Wouldn't Teresa be placing herself in a position of greater scrutiny if she were to sue anyone?

I also bolded the part where you state that Ron picked up HaLeigh from the bus stop. I don't think that happened, as there are witnesses who state it was Misty. Have you read or listened to something that causes you to believe it was really Ron who picked her up that last day? I'm curious as to why you believe that Misty was not around at this time (when HaLeigh got off of the bus).

Here's another question (guess I have more than one!):

Why do you think Ron locked the kids alone in the house to go to work? Sadly, I can believe he may have left his children alone in the house at times. (Hank Croslin, Sr. attested to that, I think, and I have a soft spot for that guy. He is a genuine human being, admitting to his own flaws and those of his family's, urging them to be honest ~ especially his little girl. There is a love for his family, and Little HaLeigh, that can't be denied, in my opinion. Hank comes across as sincere and basically honest; not quick to lie like his son, Tommy. I base that on the tapes of Tommy and Lindsy and the ease with which he tells his wife to lie to her family about a large amount of money coming in). I just don't think that on this day, Monday, February 9, 2010, Ron Cummings had any intention of showing up for work; not initially.
As you state and I agree, there seems to have been a lot going on before this Monday afternoon and Ron had quite possibly been extremely upset all weekend, though we don't know at what point Misty came back into the picture. Teresa and Annette really have muddied the waters there, with different accounts. :croc:

Your post is so chock-full of things to talk about I think I'll post this and then come at ya with some more things to hash out!

All these things I have written are my OPINIONS.

BBM..Had not really thought about that being the case. What brought you to that assumption?

 

[Whisperer]

Regarding teresa, I put her in the same category as Cindy A. She will take any opportunity to sue for anything, anywhere...she simply strikes me as the type...same with her son.

When I sayshe will sue, it could be a Website, a person, LE, investigators. I am sure she tracks LE constantly. I just threw it out there as a personality trait of hers and rons.

Regarding the bus stop..Can't figure it out. I have never trusted eye witnesses except if they are LE qualified. I don't know when Santos was questioned, if it were Tuesday,the 10th, then I would, I was throwing out a scenario that IF he did pick her up, I doubt misty was at the MH. The lies are very strong for Monday starting in the early hours. Why did misty say they went to Welaka and Ron say he dropped Haleigh off at the bus stop? Santos said rc almost clipped him at 8:00am drivind recklessly (we've heard that before) onto buffalo buff and rc denied it, saying he put Haleigh on the bus.

I guess I should run scenarios for both storylines...this case is so muddled, I am fried!

As far as that darn bus stop, it seems like the entire Croslin clan were there all in different cars. Chelsea saw Ron's Altima (she never said she saw him) and I still don't know why Chelsa was there...but she said Haleigh got into the Altima. Santos saw the blue van with misty and the kids and also a red vehicle with Lindsy in it. I would think he could get confused with the number of very young women and all with long dark hair...heck, IDK, I'm getting confuddled and bemused.

Big possibility that rc is lying again and doing it because he doesn't want the media to know he allowed misty to drive the kids around.

I could reverse this and say mc picked up the kids but IMO, she didn't drive straight home to that Mh but may have stopped at tommys to talk and let the kids play. I never did understand why tommy was there on Green Lane when he had all the kids and it would be much easier for him to be home with them on Tyler. For some reason, I see him as more the cooking and cleaning type then I do misty.

Somehow this A/C man fits in this picture and I don't think it happened the way it was told.

 

[Emeralgem]

Regarding teresa, I put her in the same category as Cindy A. She will take any opportunity to sue for anything, anywhere...she simply strikes me as the type...same with her son.

When I sayshe will sue, it could be a Website, a person, LE, investigators. I am sure she tracks LE constantly. I just threw it out there as a personality trait of hers and rons.

Regarding the bus stop..Can't figure it out. I have never trusted eye witnesses except if they are LE qualified. I don't know when Santos was questioned, if it were Tuesday,the 10th, then I would, I was throwing out a scenario that IF he did pick her up, I doubt misty was at the MH. The lies are very strong for Monday starting in the early hours. Why did misty say they went to Welaka and Ron say he dropped Haleigh off at the bus stop? Santos said rc almost clipped him at 8:00am drivind recklessly (we've heard that before) onto buffalo buff and rc denied it, saying he put Haleigh on the bus.

I guess I should run scenarios for both storylines...this case is so muddled, I am fried!

As far as that darn bus stop, it seems like the entire Croslin clan were there all in different cars. Chelsea saw Ron's Altima (she never said she saw him) and I still don't know why Chelsa was there...but she said Haleigh got into the Altima. Santos saw the blue van with misty and the kids and also a red vehicle with Lindsy in it. I would think he could get confused with the number of very young women and all with long dark hair...heck, IDK, I'm getting confuddled and bemused.

Big possibility that rc is lying again and doing it because he doesn't want the media to know he allowed misty to drive the kids around.

I could reverse this and say mc picked up the kids but IMO, she didn't drive straight home to that Mh but may have stopped at tommys to talk and let the kids play. I never did understand why tommy was there on Green Lane when he had all the kids and it would be much easier for him to be home with them on Tyler. For some reason, I see him as more the cooking and cleaning type then I do misty.

Somehow this A/C man fits in this picture and I don't think it happened the way it was told.

Misty, herself, stated to AH she drove the kids to school sometimes..
Also we have been told she went in the opposite direction of the MH when she picked up Haleigh.. Ever thnk she went to her parent's home on Magnolia and Ron C caught up with her enroute there or after she got there and thats when the incident occurred?

 

[dodie20]

Misty, herself, stated to AH she drove the kids to school sometimes..
Also we have been told she went in the opposite direction of the MH when she picked up Haleigh.. Ever thnk she went to her parent's home on Magnolia and Ron C caught up with her enroute there or after she got there and thats when the incident occurred?

that is a huge possibility. & depending on how familiar the AC man was with these people, he could've mistaken Chelsea, (for instance), for Misty, & one of the girl children for Haleigh. I remember it being said that Misty, after talking to the AC man, called Ron-but her wording in this retelling, was suspect. She made it sound as if she handed the phone to Ron-even though he was supposedly on his way to work. Chelsea, (for instance), could've called her & then Misty could've passed the phone to Ron. I never believed that Misty & Tommy sat on the porch & smoked a joint. That story felt too convenient. It was like, 'see, I'm admitting to illegal activity, so you gotta believe me'. I 2 have wondered y
so many of the kin were hanging around ...but knowing their backgrounds as we do, I'd bet that drugs were why. Also, has it ever been substantiated that Misty didn't drive Ron to work? That could be how she was able to hand Ron the phone.

 

[Whisperer]

Thanks, Emeral..I never thought of that...

I wish I knew when Hank Sr moved into tommy's. Things would be so much easier.

 

[Whisperer]

Did we ever hear about Austin getting off the school bus?

We heard Lindsy, Chelsea, misty and ron all being there at some time in different cars to pick up two children (lol) but I never heard which vehicle Austin jumped in.

 

[Emeralgem]

Thanks, Emeral..I never thought of that...

I wish I knew when Hank Sr moved into tommy's. Things would be so much easier.

Your welcome...
In reference to when Hank Sr. and Lisa moved into Tommy's house could be important, but I believe knowing the Croslins lived on Magnolia and were not in town on February 9th is just as important... And to my knowledge LE never searched the Magnolia Street address... Personally, I would like to know why...Everyone who was connected to Haleigh in any way should have been investigated in the beginning and their residences checked out immediately .....JMO

 

[TrialAddict]

What was TN so proud of Ron for?

 

[Buterflytat]

What was TN so proud of Ron for?

The only thing I can think of would be that she said that because she was acting like he had helped get misty in jail. Undercover Ronald; lol Secret Agent Man. That video had me lmao.

I do think Tommy will talk; when he realizes that he will get more than three years. I pray Misty has been talking and telling it all. Hopefully sooner than later. I'm determined to continue to believe that the truth will be told and those involved will be punished!