General theory thread and motives rehashed #2

[seeking truth]

Imo, there were four adults confirmed to be around Haleigh during the night she disappeared: Ron, Misty, GGS, and TN. :furious:

Where is Haleigh?

Where IS HaLeigh?

These four people know; this is what I believe. As you state, Quiche, it was Ron, Teresa, Annette, and Misty who were the ones there from the very beginning; eventually, ten days in, Annette put herself more deeply into the situation, though I believe she did it reluctantly and defensively, and only to cover for Ron (and herself) by stating that Misty WAS there and, more importantly, that HaLeigh was alive at the time Ron was said to have been at work.

I mean no offense to anyone here when I say that I don't understand why this crime is thought to involve so much complication, so many other people. If you strip away all the finger-pointing by the family members, both Cummings and Croslin side, how can any of it be true? The same people giving different accounts of similar events occurring in the same time frame. Sure, bits of truth are in there, I'm sure, but no way are we hearing a truthful account from these four main people. And, as their stories began falling apart from the very beginning, the convoluted lies thrown out there soon became their M.O., I think. Let's dazzle and confuse everyone. I've found it to be rather comical and outrageous; comical in the sense that what these four say is usually completely senseless and unbelievable; to me, anyway.

New people, ie; Flora Hollars, throwing a bunch of horrible, conflicting stories into the mix over a year later, along with Annette adding new information regarding her trip to the house that night. The shirt-changing story must be to cover for some mistake they made.

Within sixteen months it ought to be narrowed down to the bare bones, in my opinion. Hopefully that is where it stands with LE.

I wish I could express this better. I also want to stress that I don't mean to put down anyone else's thoughts and theories about this.

As always, these are my opinions.

 

[Chablis]

TN did not want anyone knowing there was an altercation between Misty and Ron C that afternoon and Haleigh paid the ultimate price..JMO

I agree. I really now believe Ron laid in wait watching that bus stop somewhere and watched Misty pick up HaLeigh, and take off in the other direction of the house, as its said she did, and I beleive she went to Magnolia Drive and something happened there to HaLeigh. I think Ron went ballistic and HaLeigh was killed by his rage, and I dont know if it was an accident or not, I dont think it was premeditated however.

 

[CN2Souls]

Maybe MC was there in the Van with CC and LC, Picking up (AC) Lindsey son,

RC came there and picked up Haleigh, saw MC leaving after she picked up AC,

Took off after her with Haleigh in the car and followed MC to Magnolia.

That is why the some of the eyewitness say the saw RC and some say they saw MC.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

...These four people know; this is what I believe. As you state, Quiche, it was Ron, Teresa, Annette, and Misty who were the ones there from the very beginning...

I mean no offense to anyone here when I say that I don't understand why this crime is thought to involve so much complication, so many other people. If you strip away all the finger-pointing by the family members, both Cummings and Croslin side, how can any of it be true? The same people giving different accounts of similar events occurring in the same time frame. Sure, bits of truth are in there, I'm sure, but no way are we hearing a truthful account from these four main people.

I wish I could express this better. I also want to stress that I don't mean to put down anyone else's thoughts and theories about this.

Respectfully edited. You have expressed yourself beautifully, seeking truth, and I agree that all that is needed to resolve this case is the simplest of explanations. Something bad happened to HaLeigh, and there has been a desperate, ongoing attempt to cover up what took place and who was ultimately responsible.

LE threw me for a loop when they proclaimed that HaLeigh was the victim of a homicide because I've always thought that there was a horrible accident that left HaLeigh dead. Due to his not wanting to lose custody of Junior over said incident, it was important to cover for Ron if he was at fault himself, or the fault was with someone in whose care HaLeigh was entrusted by Ron. Either way, the responsibility for HaLeigh's death rested squarely on RC's shoulders, and forces around him have to make certain that he is not held accountable. jmo

 

[Chablis]

Maybe MC was there in the Van with CC and LC, Picking up (AC) Lindsey son,

RC came there and picked up Haleigh, saw MC leaving after she picked up AC,

Took off after her with Haleigh in the car and followed MC to Magnolia.

That is why the some of the eyewitness say the saw RC and some say they saw MC.

But isnt the story from those who saw Misty, was that she had Junior as well? So she would have had to have picked up Junior from someones house, and I think thats Teresas or Annettes.

But thats a really good theory, maybe you are right.

 

[CN2Souls]

But isnt the story from those who saw Misty, was that she had Junior as well? So she would have had to have picked up Junior from someones house, and I think thats Teresas or Annettes.

But thats a really good theory, maybe you are right.

LC younger son could have been mistaken for JR. They look alike and in Florida, everyone has tinted windows.

 

[CN2Souls]

AS took that Pink Shirt Some time after Haleigh got off the bus and brought it back at 7:30 pm.

Something happened between 3:45 pm and 4:14 pm to Haleigh by RC hands.

TN and AS were brought in to take care of everything.
AS grabbed all Blankets and Haleigh shirt brought it home washed it/removed evidence.

(that is why MC had to make up the big "I washed the pee pee blanket story.")

AS then brought them all back that night, when they staged the MH

but MC got the story all mixed up when she couldn’t remember what Haleigh was wearing.

MOO

 

[dodie20]

Hi Baznme.. Are you thinking something happened to Haleigh on that Sunday night when TN claims Ron C and Misty stayed up all night talking?
Problem I have with that scenario is.. IF Haleigh was hurt on a Sunday night and did not go to school on Monday, LE would certainly have information to this being fact and would have or should have arrested Ronald Cummings on the spot when he first stated he picked her up from the school bus stop that afternoon and drove her home...That is IF she really wasn't in school..

Now lets look at IF she was hurt on a Sunday night but they still took her to school on Monday.. If thats the case her injuries would not have been noticeable or someone would have been notified..If they weren't noticeable and she passed after she got home from school, seems to me someone would have called 911 for help at that time, or taken her to the hospital claiming she had been in school that day and they didn't know what was wrong..

Personally, I suspect whatever happened to Haleigh occurred not too long after Haleigh got off that school bus and before Ron C went into work that afternoon/ early evening..

IMHO.. TN stating on national tv Ron and Misty were up all night on Sunday night working things out was not the truth....And she knows it..She just didn't want the truth revealed she was the one who asked Misty to pick up Haleigh on Monday afternoon from the bus stop. Misty and her son had not worked things out when Misty picked up Haleigh. TN did not want anyone knowing there was an altercation between Misty and Ron C that afternoon and Haleigh paid the ultimate price..JMO

Edit. TN, Ron and Misty have all attempted to paint a picture of everything just being great between Ron and Misty before he went in to work on February 9th. WHY?
I suspect because they know the truth is the exact opposite of what they have been claiming for 16 months now.....JMO

I thought from the beginning, that TN ran interference for Ron, in getting Misty back in the trailer. I guess I still think that. If Misty was there the night before, I doubt they were talking & working out their problems. fighting is more like it. maybe Ron went to sleep, woke up, saw Misty gone, & took off to the bus area to keep tabs on her, & then another fight broke out, when he realized she wasn't headed back to the trailer. Do you know where NayNay or WBG lived?

 

[dodie20]

JMO but I don't think it's all that complicated. I don't believe anyone came to that MH nor do I believe it was that night. All arrows that have been pointing in all these other directions have not churned up anyone in particular, no clues as to what direction they went or where they came from that is believable or that has had the same story told twice that was believable. When you're pointing that finger in another direction, any direction except for the pointee, to me the answer lies right there with the people that were with Haleigh the last hours of her life. The night MC and RC stayed up all night "talking" is the one I can't get out of my head. No Tommy, no Joe, no man in black. That must have been quite a night.

I also can't get that night out of my head. I don't think Haleigh was hurt, but I do think a big, loud argument took place, that laid the ground work, for whatever happened the next day. maybe after Misty left for the busstop, Ron went through the caller ID or texts, & saw something that set him off. Misty comes across, IMO, as a person who might forget to get rid of all evidence. On my cell, you can erase recently made or recieved calls, but there is another site that lists all data, & the numbers show up there too. I'm not too sure that Misty would've known to delete this area. If Ron woke up, & saw this, he would've been furious-especially if she had been calling NayNay or WBG.

 

[dodie20]

IMO, Misty wasn't quite ready to be done with WBG, so I think he plays into this, even if unwittingly. Maybe Misty needed a place to stay, & was gonna use the excuse that Ron beat her, to justify running around. I've known people who've done just that, & IMO, Misty seems like the type-very immature & playing with fire. & it has been reported that she didn't want to babysit, so she probably had other plans. & I never heard that she & WBG had a falling out, so I'm assuming that she left on good terms.

 

[dodie20]

this is just a theory, but maybe Misty had made plans to meet up with someone at her parent's empty house, & when Ron saw who was waiting there for her, all h*ll broke loose. Maybe that's why LE has kept a close eye on NayNay, & WBG.

 

[Emeralgem]

this is just a theory, but maybe Misty had made plans to meet up with someone at her parent's empty house, & when Ron saw who was waiting there for her, all h*ll broke loose. Maybe that's why LE has kept a close eye on NayNay, & WBG.

BBM....IMHO.. that could very well have happened..JMO

 

[4Jacy]

IMO, Misty wasn't quite ready to be done with WBG, so I think he plays into this, even if unwittingly. Maybe Misty needed a place to stay, & was gonna use the excuse that Ron beat her, to justify running around. I've known people who've done just that, & IMO, Misty seems like the type-very immature & playing with fire. & it has been reported that she didn't want to babysit, so she probably had other plans. & I never heard that she & WBG had a falling out, so I'm assuming that she left on good terms.

Yes, dodie, I agree Misty wasn't done with WBP. He called her Monday morning but she said she had to go to the hospital to visit her father.

Also, remember the Croslins & Ron were out looking for WBP, wanting to fight with him over Misty's honor. (must step way from the computer for a minute, I cannot see the screen because I'm laughing so hard, my eyes are filled up.)

 

[suspicious1]

Yes, dodie, I agree Misty wasn't done with WBP. He called her Monday morning but she said she had to go to the hospital to visit her father.

Also, remember the Croslins & Ron were out looking for WBP, wanting to fight with him over Misty's honor. (must step way from the computer for a minute, I cannot see the screen because I'm laughing so hard, my eyes are filled up.)

BBm

I wonder if Ron was around for that call?:waitasec: When WBG talked to Misty that morning I wonder if he knew where she was? Did Misty take that call in front of Ron?? I don't think she would. JMO though

 

[Emeralgem]

BBm

I wonder if Ron was around for that call?:waitasec: When WBG talked to Misty that morning I wonder if he knew where she was? Did Misty take that call in front of Ron?? I don't think she would. JMO though

Since WBG claims he spoke with her I am going with Ronald Cummings was not around when Misty spoke to WBG..Anyone remember who it was who stated Misty spent the night at her parent's house on Sunday night? JMO

 

[Snowbunny]

Since WBG claims he spoke with her I am going with Ronald Cummings was not around when Misty spoke to WBG..Anyone remember who it was who stated Misty spent the night at her parent's house on Sunday night? JMO

I thought it was stated that NayNay dropped Misty off at her brother's house, but I'm not sure which brother.

 

[Emeralgem]

I thought it was stated that NayNay dropped Misty off at her brother's house, but I'm not sure which brother.

I recall that being said, but seems it has been revealed in the last month Misty was dropped off at her parent's home. I'm just trying to figure out who stated that and to whom it was stated...JMO

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I thought it was stated that NayNay dropped Misty off at her brother's house, but I'm not sure which brother.

Going by poor memory here...Maybe Misty was taken to Timmy and Chelsea's house. Wasn't it Chelsea who said she was going to pick up Hank Sr. from the hospital? But then, if she had the van he would of fit. I think he was brought back by ambulance because he couldn't fit in the car. So, who has a car? :waitasec: I am getting all confused. :banghead:

 

[krkrjx]

Misty could have gone back to the MH sometime on Monday, 2/9. Maybe she was there when Haleigh got home from school but left again after a fight with RC. That could explain Haleigh being injured before RC left for work and Misty not having witnessed what happened. Haleigh could have been struck during the argument but could just as easily have been injured after Misty left if RC was still in a foul mood. Misty leaving because of an argument might explain why TN then had to call her to babysit with the kids. TN calling Misty to babysit certainly makes more sense if Misty was not at the MH at the time of the call. And it explains Misty's response that she would babysit if it was OK with Ron.

Or, possibly Misty was never there before RC left for work on 2/9 and their fight was over the phone. That would explain him calling her over and over that evening, if he in fact did. And RC could have been in a foul mood because a phone argument, IMO. If Misty had not even been at the MH at all that day, it could explain her not having certain facts, such as what Haleigh was wearing. I do think Misty knows a lot more than she is telling but I am not convinced she knows all about who, what, when, and where.

I do not believe what happened was an accident. A cover up makes no sense if it was an accident, IMO. It may have been unintended, but someone did something they shouldn't have done that resulted in Haleigh's death. I am totally convinced that MC and RC are both involved in the cover-up and it makes sense to think they would only cover if they were either guilty of the deed, or of aiding the guilty person(s).

Retaliation/revenge by some "business" associate of RC is still a reasonable consideration, IMO. Even though drug thugs do not typically attack children, it is not out of the realm of possibility, especially when one considers a "business" associate could have acted for purely personal reasons. A "sorry piece of trash" seeking vengeance could be capable of unspeakable acts, IMO.

 

[Emeralgem]

Hi Baznme.. Are you thinking something happened to Haleigh on that Sunday night when TN claims Ron C and Misty stayed up all night talking?
Problem I have with that scenario is.. IF Haleigh was hurt on a Sunday night and did not go to school on Monday, LE would certainly have information to this being fact and would have or should have arrested Ronald Cummings on the spot when he first stated he picked her up from the school bus stop that afternoon and drove her home...That is IF she really wasn't in school..

Now lets look at IF she was hurt on a Sunday night but they still took her to school on Monday.. If thats the case her injuries would not have been noticeable or someone would have been notified..If they weren't noticeable and she passed after she got home from school, seems to me someone would have called 911 for help at that time, or taken her to the hospital claiming she had been in school that day and they didn't know what was wrong..

Personally, I suspect whatever happened to Haleigh occurred not too long after Haleigh got off that school bus and before Ron C went into work that afternoon/ early evening..

IMHO.. TN stating on national tv Ron and Misty were up all night on Sunday night working things out was not the truth....And she knows it..She just didn't want the truth revealed she was the one who asked Misty to pick up Haleigh on Monday afternoon from the bus stop. Misty and her son had not worked things out when Misty picked up Haleigh. TN did not want anyone knowing there was an altercation between Misty and Ron C that afternoon and Haleigh paid the ultimate price..JMO

Edit. TN, Ron and Misty have all attempted to paint a picture of everything just being great between Ron and Misty before he went in to work on February 9th. WHY?
I suspect because they know the truth is the exact opposite of what they have been claiming for 16 months now.....JMO

Quoting myslef..

Let me add.. No way after Misty being gone over the weekend partying with Nay Nay and WBG would Ron C have just stayed at work when Misty didn't answer her phone that night especially after calling her anywhere from 20 to 90 times that night... He knew exactly where she was and those calls were made to set her up...Also, I have a real problem with him never mentioning to the 911 operator he had been trying to call home all night and she never answered and when he finally got home from work his daughter was missing....Guess he couldn't risk giving out that information in front of Misty.... JMO