General theory thread and motives rehashed #2

[txsvicki]

There's still nothing that's came out from any of them to make me think anything but that Misty was either not home that night at all or was konked out on drugs. Junior saw the man take Haleigh and possibly heard her crying in the other room as she was being taken. Misty just made her story match Juniors. I think Joe and Tommy were called over before Ron got home to help search and clean the house of drugs, possibly demanding the gun in return for helping. Ron and his mamas didn't want to admit drug use. I think Misty feels that a pedophile took Haleigh, and actually thought it might have been Joe or possibly Tommy since he's the older of the bunch. They may have even found her lying down the trail from the home near the water and were afraid they'd be blamed or get much more prison time, possibly one of the male's dna was on Haleigh and unknown to the others.

 

[lil momma]

My number 1 theory is that Ron & Misty were not together on Sunday and she wasn't with him on Monday morning. (not sure where Misty was but she wasn't with Ron) Ron spent all day looking for Misty. Couldn't find her. Ron had to go to work and locked the kids in the house with a movie. Ron then went to work. While at work continued to call Misty, after not being able to get a hold of her he calls mommy who gets GGS to go over and check on the children. Maybe GGS found HaLeigh unresponsive, called TN, who got a hold of Ron tell him what happened. They needed Misty at the MH b/c they also needed the help of people she knew. (her brother and cousin) If they told Ron to come home from work it wouldn't look good. He was at work. TN calls on another male family member to dispose of HaLeigh before Misty got to the MH. Misty then arrives to be coached on what to say and why. Misty not being the sharpest tool in the shed, goes along, b/c they told her they could get Ron to marry her, Ron would love her forever. Tom and Joe came over to remove the drugs and guns, they were probably told they could have a cut of what Ron had. Once everything is removed, Tommy is told to go back home, TN & GGS leave and Misty is left in the MH with JR. ( I guess at one point JR had to be removed from the home to avoid him seeing and being able to tell what happened to his sissy and who took her) Ron comes home, and they call 911.... I know i am missing loads of stuff.

This explains Ron insisting he locked the doors. He knows they were locked b/c he wanted to make sure the kiddies were safe. I have left out the part of how HaLeigh died, and that is b/c i feel it was accidental drug OD, or close head injury, could be something else, who knows. Ron could have drug the children and locked them in the MH, sleep before he went to work. It explains why TN called Misty and asked her to baby sit, the obsessive calling of Ron to Misty, Tommy being there and possibly Joe. Not sure if Timmy would fit in at all, but i suppose he could.

I just have a hard time believing that Misty was at the MH all day lovin it up with Ron and JR sleeping all day. it sounds all made up to me. TN, GGS, Ron, Misty, Tommy, and possibly Timmy and Joe could all be in this up to their eyeballs. (several POIs)

These are JMO, stayed tuned there will be more theories

 

[azwriter]

My number 1 theory is that Ron & Misty were not together on Sunday and she wasn't with him on Monday morning. (not sure where Misty was but she wasn't with Ron) Ron spent all day looking for Misty. Couldn't find her. Ron had to go to work and locked the kids in the house with a movie. Ron then went to work. While at work continued to call Misty, after not being able to get a hold of her he calls mommy who gets GGS to go over and check on the children. Maybe GGS found HaLeigh unresponsive, called TN, who got a hold of Ron tell him what happened. They needed Misty at the MH b/c they also needed the help of people she knew. (her brother and cousin) If they told Ron to come home from work it wouldn't look good. He was at work. TN calls on another male family member to dispose of HaLeigh before Misty got to the MH. Misty then arrives to be coached on what to say and why. Misty not being the sharpest tool in the shed, goes along, b/c they told her they could get Ron to marry her, Ron would love her forever. Tom and Joe came over to remove the drugs and guns, they were probably told they could have a cut of what Ron had. Once everything is removed, Tommy is told to go back home, TN & GGS leave and Misty is left in the MH with JR. ( I guess at one point JR had to be removed from the home to avoid him seeing and being able to tell what happened to his sissy and who took her) Ron comes home, and they call 911.... I know i am missing loads of stuff.

This explains Ron insisting he locked the doors. He knows they were locked b/c he wanted to make sure the kiddies were safe. I have left out the part of how HaLeigh died, and that is b/c i feel it was accidental drug OD, or close head injury, could be something else, who knows. Ron could have drug the children and locked them in the MH, sleep before he went to work. It explains why TN called Misty and asked her to baby sit, the obsessive calling of Ron to Misty, Tommy being there and possibly Joe. Not sure if Timmy would fit in at all, but i suppose he could.

I just have a hard time believing that Misty was at the MH all day lovin it up with Ron and JR sleeping all day. it sounds all made up to me. TN, GGS, Ron, Misty, Tommy, and possibly Timmy and Joe could all be in this up to their eyeballs. (several POIs)

These are JMO, stayed tuned there will be more theories

lil momma, your theory hits on so many great points. One that I think is very important is Misty's absence from the motor home when all went down. I think you are right on about that.

I think there is strong proof Misty wasn't there. Misty absolutely does not know what Haleigh was wearing when she was last seen. First on the 911 call she claims Haleigh was sleeping so of course she was wearing pajamas. What Haliegh was wearing would be something known by the person who put her to bed, or was with her that evening. I'm so sure of that. It's such a simple detail but one that is very telling.

What Ron's daughter was wearing, if she was lifted from her bed and taken away, is very important evidence. And since Misty doesn't know, that means to me she wasn't there the entire evening and most importantly that fact was one that was not passed on to her when a "story" of events was being written by Ron's mom and grandma to cover what really happened.

The script Misty was given was soley prepared to protect Ron (which Whisperer states in many of her posts). I believe Ron's actions are responsible for what happened to his little girl. Your theory of him leaving the children alone in order to go to work does fit nicely into the beginning of that fateful night. Who knows what transpired from that moment on but whatever it was it resulted in the need of getting Haleigh out of the picture because she was dead or dying.

The big question is would Misty go along with a prepared story to cover what really happened? Yes, I think she would, as you say if she was offered a reward of having Ron for the rest of her life. Also, if she was coming down off a weekend of drugs, she would not be thinking very clearly. And, she's young and not too bright. If the story was presented to her as a way she could protect Ron and convinced that her story would be believed, I do think she would go along.

So when we hear Misty claim over and over that she does not know what happened, I think she is telling the truth. She knows only what was told to her by Ron and his protectors.

Of course it's all just my opinion.

 

[4Jacy]

lil momma, your theory hits on so many great points. One that I think is very important is Misty's absence from the motor home when all went down. I think you are right on about that.

I think there is strong proof Misty wasn't there. Misty absolutely does not know what Haleigh was wearing when she was last seen. First on the 911 call she claims Haleigh was sleeping so of course she was wearing pajamas. What Haliegh was wearing would be something known by the person who put her to bed, or was with her that evening. I'm so sure of that. It's such a simple detail but one that is very telling.

What Ron's daughter was wearing, if she was lifted from her bed and taken away, is very important evidence. And since Misty doesn't know, that means to me she wasn't there the entire evening and most importantly that fact was one that was not passed on to her when a "story" of events was being written by Ron's mom and grandma to cover what really happened.

The script Misty was given was soley prepared to protect Ron (which Whisperer states in many of her posts). I believe Ron's actions are responsible for what happened to his little girl. Your theory of him leaving the children alone in order to go to work does fit nicely into the beginning of that fateful night. Who knows what transpired from that moment on but whatever it was it resulted in the need of getting Haleigh out of the picture because she was dead or dying.

The big question is would Misty go along with a prepared story to cover what really happened? Yes, I think she would, as you say if she was offered a reward of having Ron for the rest of her life. Also, if she was coming down off a weekend of drugs, she would not be thinking very clearly. And, she's young and not too bright. If the story was presented to her as a way she could protect Ron and convinced that her story would be believed, I do think she would go along.

So when we hear Misty claim over and over that she does not know what happened, I think she is telling the truth. She knows only what was told to her by Ron and his protectors.

Of course it's all just my opinion.

AZ, I agree about the PJ's and that Misty would have known what Haleigh was wearing.

The part I can't wrap my mind around is Misty being promised RC for the rest of her life. I just can't believe Misty would willingly go along with all of this. I mean this was know prince they promised her.

I truly believe Misty was infatuated with WBG, and he with her (he called her after their weekend, but she was planning to visit Hank, Sr. in hospital). After all this went down with little Haleigh WBG didn't want anything to do with Misty. JMHO

 

[dodie20]

I thinik they wanted her to take it and was hoping she would pass. As long as she looks good, rc looks good....people won't think he is so bad on his choice of babysitters/gf. It is always about ron.

I don't think TN necessarily wanted Misty to take the test, but I do think GGS, pushed for it. Why? maybe she was confident Ron wasn't involved, & wanted to get to the truth. I think she was sick of Misty living in her house, but not giving up any information. So, I'm guessing that GGS wasn't as involved in a cover-up, as TN. I got the impression that TN & Ron wanted everything to fade into a memory, but I'm not so sure about GGS. I bet in retrospect, she wishes that Misty hadn't taken that test, because that's when the floodgates opened. I also think GGS played a big part, (bigger than LE), in Ron divorcing Misty. So, while TN was playing up Ron's & Misty's loving relationship, (& that was hard to write, without laughing), it's MOO, that GGS wasn't so crazy about Misty. If nothing else, I think she saw how toxic Ron & Misty were together. & realized, at least as far as this case was concerned, that he would be better off, away from her. (an albatros hanging around his neck). & the irony is...if Ron had paid closer attention to his grandmother, & stayed away from Misty, he probably wouldn't be in jail right now. Because I think it's safe to say, that Misty was the one that LE really wanted.

 

[1Chump]

AZ, I agree about the PJ's and that Misty would have known what Haleigh was wearing.

The part I can't wrap my mind around is Misty being promised RC for the rest of her life. I just can't believe Misty would willingly go along with all of this. I mean this was know prince they promised her.

I truly believe Misty was infatuated with WBG, and he with her (he called her after their weekend, but she was planning to visit Hank, Sr. in hospital). After all this went down with little Haleigh WBG didn't want anything to do with Misty. JMHO

I do not think that Misty "willingly" went along with anything. Just look at what happened those two weeks in August, 2009, to Misty.

Misty calls her parents/Tommy to come get her because she wants to leave Ron. I believe Misty's family because GGma Sykes said she was in her bed, heard the commotion, came outside, saw the men fight, told Ronald to go inside and "pushed" Misty's Mom and Father into the van and told them to leave. GGma Sykes own words are that she physically separated a 17 year old kid from her Mother without "knowing" what was going on.

IMO, most people in that situation would talk to Misty. GGma Sykes NEVER considered maybe Misty wanted to leave. Maybe because GGma Sykes knew they couldn't let Misty leave?

Then TN says she called TM in because Misty was "ready to break." TN's opinion of Misty "ready to break" was that Misty did not want to be alone with Ron and was having "secretive" phone calls.

IMO, GGma Sykes and TN knew they were losing control of Misty. They had to completely discredit Misty before she got away.

IMO, that two week period in August 2009 shows the control both GGma Sykes and TN had over Misty. Misty was "fighting" to get away and still could not get away from them.

 

[1Chump]

lil momma, your theory hits on so many great points. One that I think is very important is Misty's absence from the motor home when all went down. I think you are right on about that.

I think there is strong proof Misty wasn't there. Misty absolutely does not know what Haleigh was wearing when she was last seen. First on the 911 call she claims Haleigh was sleeping so of course she was wearing pajamas. What Haliegh was wearing would be something known by the person who put her to bed, or was with her that evening. I'm so sure of that. It's such a simple detail but one that is very telling.

What Ron's daughter was wearing, if she was lifted from her bed and taken away, is very important evidence. And since Misty doesn't know, that means to me she wasn't there the entire evening and most importantly that fact was one that was not passed on to her when a "story" of events was being written by Ron's mom and grandma to cover what really happened.

The script Misty was given was soley prepared to protect Ron (which Whisperer states in many of her posts). I believe Ron's actions are responsible for what happened to his little girl. Your theory of him leaving the children alone in order to go to work does fit nicely into the beginning of that fateful night. Who knows what transpired from that moment on but whatever it was it resulted in the need of getting Haleigh out of the picture because she was dead or dying.

The big question is would Misty go along with a prepared story to cover what really happened? Yes, I think she would, as you say if she was offered a reward of having Ron for the rest of her life. Also, if she was coming down off a weekend of drugs, she would not be thinking very clearly. And, she's young and not too bright. If the story was presented to her as a way she could protect Ron and convinced that her story would be believed, I do think she would go along.

So when we hear Misty claim over and over that she does not know what happened, I think she is telling the truth. She knows only what was told to her by Ron and his protectors.

Of course it's all just my opinion.

I always ask why Haleigh and not Junior. Probably because of Ron and TN"s insistence about child support. IMO, that was the dumbest "excuse" ever because Ron would still be getting child support on Junior as well as the back child support. So then I thought Junior must have been with GGma Sykes.

But today I just had the thought that the anger could have been at Haleigh. Misty told her Dad in the jailhouse tapes that when she would leave, they would send Haleigh over to beg her to come back.

GGma Sykes said she was mad at Misty for leaving Ron without a babysitter. Maybe Haleigh was used to try to get the babysitter back that night and failed. Ron would not blame himself but I could see them all blaming Haleigh for not crying hard enough, not begging enough, when Haleigh was the reason Ron needed a babysitter at the MH.

Junior did not NEED a babysitter at the MH Junior could stay with anyone because he did not have to be at school.

 

[lonetraveler]

Sorry, but I don't think any of them are that bright. MOO

I don't think being "bright" has anything to do with it. Being coniving works though.

 

[doobiedoo52]

I am back to the point of starting over. After being away for awhile, I find my way of looking at this thing is changing. For nearly a year all the focus has been on the Cummings/Croslin clans. I really would like to hear more about what went on with the Sheffield families and their whereabouts days before and at the time Haleigh disappeared. I am NOT picking on anyone--I just think we should be fair about examining peoples pasts and drug use histories. Do we really even know if Haleigh & Jr were home on the weekend before the disappearance? Every Haleigh sighting I've read about involves someone resembling either a Sheffield, Padgett, Lauramore or Griffis family member. Why? You can commence the tomato toss now! I'm ready.

 

[Chablis]

I am back to the point of starting over. After being away for awhile, I find my way of looking at this thing is changing. For nearly a year all the focus has been on the Cummings/Croslin clans. I really would like to hear more about what went on with the Sheffield families and their whereabouts days before and at the time Haleigh disappeared. I am NOT picking on anyone--I just think we should be fair about examining peoples pasts and drug use histories. Do we really even know if Haleigh & Jr were home on the weekend before the disappearance? Every Haleigh sighting I've read about involves someone resembling either a Sheffield, Padgett, Lauramore or Griffis family member. Why? You can commence the tomato toss now! I'm ready.

Well, the huge difference when it comes to putting this family under scrutiny, is that Haleighs mom did not have Haleigh in her home when the child went missing. And there does not seem to be any logic reason for Misty to lie and protect anyone Crystal or her family, unless Misty was hired by the Sheffields to get to Ronald, it just does not fit. The cops here also say, the person responsible is someone known to Misty, and or Ronald, they arent saying Crystal is responsible, so when you factor in everything the cops are saying, magnifying Crystals family seems to just be done for gossip and to point out that the Cummings/Sykes/Neves familys are not the only people with black marks in their pasts.

The two people in charge of the missing child are being held on 1.3 million dollar bail, and 900k respectfully. I am pretty sure the answers all lie within those two.

jmo

 

[lonetraveler]

I am back to the point of starting over. After being away for awhile, I find my way of looking at this thing is changing. For nearly a year all the focus has been on the Cummings/Croslin clans. I really would like to hear more about what went on with the Sheffield families and their whereabouts days before and at the time Haleigh disappeared. I am NOT picking on anyone--I just think we should be fair about examining peoples pasts and drug use histories. Do we really even know if Haleigh & Jr were home on the weekend before the disappearance? Every Haleigh sighting I've read about involves someone resembling either a Sheffield, Padgett, Lauramore or Griffis family member. Why? You can commence the tomato toss now! I'm ready.

I'm resisting the very thought of starting over but I definitely share your pain over this dang case. However, I do not think enought focus has been put on Ron Cummings side of the family. They were very involved in the goings on in Haleigh life at the time and date that she became missing. So far, we don't know what Ron was up to two days prior to Haleigh's disappearance. We also do not know where the children were during the previous two day prior to Haleigh's disappearance. We don't know how much time Teresa or Annette were with the children up to the 911 call. We have found out way late that Teresa was trying to contact Misty and when she did contact her, she was begging her to babysit that Monday night, even if she had to pay her. We found out way late, at least nine days later, that GGMS reportedly showed up at the Mh that night with someone else (reportedly, a nurse) to
"check on the children" and then later the additional comment of "bringing over laundry". Absolutely nothing was said about these two people at the time of the disappearance....Why? First, GGMS and Teresa were practically worshiping the ground Misty walked on, then GGMS gave an interview stating that she was furious that Ron was going to allow Misty back into the house, that she was very angry that Misty had left Ron without a babysitter.:waitasec: Now, we know that Teresa was desperately trying to contact Misty to babysit that Monday night on February 9th, why? If Ron was on time to work, then who was staying with the children? With the doors locked up tight, according to Ron? What? Did he lock the babysitter up with the children?????? And the numerous, conflicting stories of events that Monday starting with the early morning of Haleigh whinning and demanding a certain outfit that was supposedly at GGMS so Ron loads the family up (along with Misty?) and treks over to GGMS to get the outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear to school. Mean while we also have read reports that Ron worked tree work that morning, also reportedly slept the morning away in bed with Misty until Haleigh got out of school. Misty reportedly traveled to Gainsville to see her father in the hospital at the same time that she was sleeping it up with Ron in bed at his home.:waitasec: Ron picked up Haleigh, Misty picked up Haleigh and I've even read where Teresa picked up Haleigh. Misty showed up at the Mh just in time for Ron to go to work according to GGMS. Misty was there at around 5:30 pm when the AC man came to do routine maintenance. :waitasec: Misty was there all night, Tommy came by at Ron's request because he couldn't get Misty on the phone at around 10:45 pm. Misty wasn't there per Tommy. Misty was home sleeping per Misty? Joe took the van per Chelsea while she was filling out insurance paperwork. Returned it all scratched up and damaged during the early morning. Joe came by the Mh to steal a gun from Ronald and was pizzed when it wasn't there per Misty. Joe took Haleigh and left after threatening everyone per Misty and Tommy. Joe disposed of Haleigh in the river per Misty and Tommy and Granma Flo. Tommy, Misty, Ron, Hope and Donna decide to deal drugs while waiting on Haleigh to be found per all of them. Now, Ron's going to tell everything he knows although he claims to know absolutely nothing...........
I don't think I'm ready to drop all of this wonderful information and start on the Crystal Sheffield family. It is much too interesting just trying to figure out the people who were definitely involved with Haleigh on the night that she disappeared.

 

[Snowbunny]

I'm resisting the very thought of starting over but I definitely share your pain over this dang case. However, I do not think enought focus has been put on Ron Cummings side of the family. They were very involved in the goings on in Haleigh life at the time and date that she became missing. So far, we don't know what Ron was up to two days prior to Haleigh's disappearance. We also do not know where the children were during the previous two day prior to Haleigh's disappearance. We don't know how much time Teresa or Annette were with the children up to the 911 call. We have found out way late that Teresa was trying to contact Misty and when she did contact her, she was begging her to babysit that Monday night, even if she had to pay her. We found out way late, at least nine days later, that GGMS reportedly showed up at the Mh that night with someone else (reportedly, a nurse) to
"check on the children" and then later the additional comment of "bringing over laundry". Absolutely nothing was said about these two people at the time of the disappearance....Why? First, GGMS and Teresa were practically worshiping the ground Misty walked on, then GGMS gave an interview stating that she was furious that Ron was going to allow Misty back into the house, that she was very angry that Misty had left Ron without a babysitter.:waitasec: Now, we know that Teresa was desperately trying to contact Misty to babysit that Monday night on February 9th, why? If Ron was on time to work, then who was staying with the children? With the doors locked up tight, according to Ron? What? Did he lock the babysitter up with the children?????? And the numerous, conflicting stories of events that Monday starting with the early morning of Haleigh whinning and demanding a certain outfit that was supposedly at GGMS so Ron loads the family up (along with Misty?) and treks over to GGMS to get the outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear to school. Mean while we also have read reports that Ron worked tree work that morning, also reportedly slept the morning away in bed with Misty until Haleigh got out of school. Misty reportedly traveled to Gainsville to see her father in the hospital at the same time that she was sleeping it up with Ron in bed at his home.:waitasec: Ron picked up Haleigh, Misty picked up Haleigh and I've even read where Teresa picked up Haleigh. Misty showed up at the Mh just in time for Ron to go to work according to GGMS. Misty was there at around 5:30 pm when the AC man came to do routine maintenance. :waitasec: Misty was there all night, Tommy came by at Ron's request because he couldn't get Misty on the phone at around 10:45 pm. Misty wasn't there per Tommy. Misty was home sleeping per Misty? Joe took the van per Chelsea while she was filling out insurance paperwork. Returned it all scratched up and damaged during the early morning. Joe came by the Mh to steal a gun from Ronald and was pizzed when it wasn't there per Misty. Joe took Haleigh and left after threatening everyone per Misty and Tommy. Joe disposed of Haleigh in the river per Misty and Tommy and Granma Flo. Tommy, Misty, Ron, Hope and Donna decide to deal drugs while waiting on Haleigh to be found per all of them. Now, Ron's going to tell everything he knows although he claims to know absolutely nothing...........
I don't think I'm ready to drop all of this wonderful information and start on the Crystal Sheffield family. It is much too interesting just trying to figure out the people who were definitely involved with Haleigh on the night that she disappeared.

GGM Sykes stated in an interview that she was mad at Ronald for taking Misty back into his household after she left him without a babysitter, but it was Ronald who beat Misty up when she told him that she might be pregnant and he is the one who kicked her out so my question to GGM Sykes would be who left who without a babysitter? Seems to me Ronald is the one who sent his babysitter packing and not the other way around. You bebt I feel LE ought to be looking at the Cummings quite heavily. And to GGM Sykes, I do not condone any man for beating on a woman; especially when she is still under age and if he can beat on Misty he can certainly beat on one of his kids.

 

[Emeralgem]

I am back to the point of starting over. After being away for awhile, I find my way of looking at this thing is changing. For nearly a year all the focus has been on the Cummings/Croslin clans. I really would like to hear more about what went on with the Sheffield families and their whereabouts days before and at the time Haleigh disappeared. I am NOT picking on anyone--I just think we should be fair about examining peoples pasts and drug use histories. Do we really even know if Haleigh & Jr were home on the weekend before the disappearance? Every Haleigh sighting I've read about involves someone resembling either a Sheffield, Padgett, Lauramore or Griffis family member. Why? You can commence the tomato toss now! I'm ready.

BBM..DARK RED...ALL a RED HERRING contrived by Cummings Clan..

LOL..I'll oblige..SPLAT..SPLAT..SPLAT..

 

[Whisperer]

:blowkiss:

Doobie...because I care, I want you to put a plastic sheet over you as I commence to toss the heirlooms at ya..

 

[twall]

My number 1 theory is that Ron & Misty were not together on Sunday and she wasn't with him on Monday morning. (not sure where Misty was but she wasn't with Ron) Ron spent all day looking for Misty. Couldn't find her. Ron had to go to work and locked the kids in the house with a movie. Ron then went to work. While at work continued to call Misty, after not being able to get a hold of her he calls mommy who gets GGS to go over and check on the children. Maybe GGS found HaLeigh unresponsive, called TN, who got a hold of Ron tell him what happened. They needed Misty at the MH b/c they also needed the help of people she knew. (her brother and cousin) If they told Ron to come home from work it wouldn't look good. He was at work. TN calls on another male family member to dispose of HaLeigh before Misty got to the MH. Misty then arrives to be coached on what to say and why. Misty not being the sharpest tool in the shed, goes along, b/c they told her they could get Ron to marry her, Ron would love her forever. Tom and Joe came over to remove the drugs and guns, they were probably told they could have a cut of what Ron had. Once everything is removed, Tommy is told to go back home, TN & GGS leave and Misty is left in the MH with JR. ( I guess at one point JR had to be removed from the home to avoid him seeing and being able to tell what happened to his sissy and who took her) Ron comes home, and they call 911.... I know i am missing loads of stuff.

This explains Ron insisting he locked the doors. He knows they were locked b/c he wanted to make sure the kiddies were safe. I have left out the part of how HaLeigh died, and that is b/c i feel it was accidental drug OD, or close head injury, could be something else, who knows. Ron could have drug the children and locked them in the MH, sleep before he went to work. It explains why TN called Misty and asked her to baby sit, the obsessive calling of Ron to Misty, Tommy being there and possibly Joe. Not sure if Timmy would fit in at all, but i suppose he could.

I just have a hard time believing that Misty was at the MH all day lovin it up with Ron and JR sleeping all day. it sounds all made up to me. TN, GGS, Ron, Misty, Tommy, and possibly Timmy and Joe could all be in this up to their eyeballs. (several POIs)

These are JMO, stayed tuned there will be more theories

Yes, yes, yes I think this is a very possible scenario which I have thought about often myself. The only thing I think differently about is Haleigh was left in the home alone after Ron picked her up from the bus and Jr. was with someone else. Maybe Ron had someone lined up to watch Haleigh or come by to get her and watch her in their home but something happened to her before they arrived.
Possible scenarios of what happened to Haleigh-found the gun that has been spoken about that was under the pillow and shot herself, od'd on something, stuck an object in an outlet and electrocuted herself (I'm reaching on that one, lol). I also think it is possible Ron may have messed with the wrong person or people and they came to seek revenge thinking he wasn't home, found Haleigh there and did God knows what to/with her. The comment Ron said to the uc in the drug deal tape about dope boys not coming there to kill him but they would kill his family members and leave them there for him to find when he came home bothers me. He wants the uc to think that did not occur because Misty and Jr. were not harmed but what if there is some truth in Ron's statement, that is what happened, Misty and Jr. were not harmed because they weren't there?! One thing I have learned about Ron-believe the opposite of what he states to the public!

 

[TobyWong*]

I'm resisting the very thought of starting over but I definitely share your pain over this dang case. However, I do not think enought focus has been put on Ron Cummings side of the family. They were very involved in the goings on in Haleigh life at the time and date that she became missing. So far, we don't know what Ron was up to two days prior to Haleigh's disappearance. We also do not know where the children were during the previous two day prior to Haleigh's disappearance. We don't know how much time Teresa or Annette were with the children up to the 911 call. We have found out way late that Teresa was trying to contact Misty and when she did contact her, she was begging her to babysit that Monday night, even if she had to pay her. We found out way late, at least nine days later, that GGMS reportedly showed up at the Mh that night with someone else (reportedly, a nurse) to
"check on the children" and then later the additional comment of "bringing over laundry". Absolutely nothing was said about these two people at the time of the disappearance....Why? First, GGMS and Teresa were practically worshiping the ground Misty walked on, then GGMS gave an interview stating that she was furious that Ron was going to allow Misty back into the house, that she was very angry that Misty had left Ron without a babysitter.:waitasec: Now, we know that Teresa was desperately trying to contact Misty to babysit that Monday night on February 9th, why? If Ron was on time to work, then who was staying with the children? With the doors locked up tight, according to Ron? What? Did he lock the babysitter up with the children?????? And the numerous, conflicting stories of events that Monday starting with the early morning of Haleigh whinning and demanding a certain outfit that was supposedly at GGMS so Ron loads the family up (along with Misty?) and treks over to GGMS to get the outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear to school. Mean while we also have read reports that Ron worked tree work that morning, also reportedly slept the morning away in bed with Misty until Haleigh got out of school. Misty reportedly traveled to Gainsville to see her father in the hospital at the same time that she was sleeping it up with Ron in bed at his home.:waitasec: Ron picked up Haleigh, Misty picked up Haleigh and I've even read where Teresa picked up Haleigh. Misty showed up at the Mh just in time for Ron to go to work according to GGMS. Misty was there at around 5:30 pm when the AC man came to do routine maintenance. :waitasec: Misty was there all night, Tommy came by at Ron's request because he couldn't get Misty on the phone at around 10:45 pm. Misty wasn't there per Tommy. Misty was home sleeping per Misty? Joe took the van per Chelsea while she was filling out insurance paperwork. Returned it all scratched up and damaged during the early morning. Joe came by the Mh to steal a gun from Ronald and was pizzed when it wasn't there per Misty. Joe took Haleigh and left after threatening everyone per Misty and Tommy. Joe disposed of Haleigh in the river per Misty and Tommy and Granma Flo. Tommy, Misty, Ron, Hope and Donna decide to deal drugs while waiting on Haleigh to be found per all of them. Now, Ron's going to tell everything he knows although he claims to know absolutely nothing...........
I don't think I'm ready to drop all of this wonderful information and start on the Crystal Sheffield family. It is much too interesting just trying to figure out the people who were definitely involved with Haleigh on the night that she disappeared.

I was going to snip for space but it was so perfect I had to leave it. I love how you added all versions. It made me stop and thnk "wow we dont have any detailed info about ron's previous weekend." We have mistys cause it's scandalous. ron's whole family, they to me, are alot scarier in the way of "don"t mess w/ me" threat than any of the croslin family.
I'm just gonna take a leap from the other theroies I've maintaned, Maybe misty did pick up Haleigh cause if they (cummings) called her and said "you know you'll be there w? chelsea anyway" but she says to them" i cant babysit but I'll grab her", chelsea and misty pick up all the kids, drop or meet ron or tn, they go about their business going to chelseas house or to the Magnolia St. house. tn starts calling misty to babysit cause she'll be the one to have to do it. Ron's doing whatever then ambles on into work cause his mama has the kids. Maybe tn or ron ask misty to go to mobile home to let ac guy in. I wonder if tommy removed pot plants at this time so the ac guy wouldnt see them,tn would have the kids still at her house?? misty gets dropped off there, calls her brother, they smoke, the ac guy sees tommy's kids, everyone leaves ron's home, All the while tn is still trying to get misty to sit. misty finally caves and says she can do it but not til later. tn doses the kids w/ osme meds, they fall asleep driving to the mh, she puts them in bed locks all the doors cause misty has a key, then leaves expecting misty to be there soon, Haleigh dies from overdose or that combined w/ a breathing issue// misty ambles her way to meet ron and pretend that she had been there for awhile and screams cause she finds Haleigh. She calls ron, he calls tn, misty calls her mom & prolly a brother. tn is on her way and already knows what has happened, but her and ron talk all the drive there and come up w/ the whole "we'll tell misty it's her fault but we'll cover for her as long as she goes along w/ this story." tn grabs Haleigh and takes her somewhere as misty cleans up, they've all been in communication so ron knows to stop for alibi. tn waits for the call after 911. I can see where later ron calling tommy for who knows what, helped him frame misty, I can see tn telling ron to marry her to make her happy and then ron convincing her he still loves her but we dont need this paper to prove it. I'm sure misty thinks low enough of her cousin that she'd throw him out there, then tommy followed trying to help his sister. I'd also think ggms saying she went there was later added to add credibility that she "saw" misty and the kids and they were fine then. Heck maybe ggms went driving around helping tn track misty down??

So yea thanx lonetravler for giving me something new to think about. I came on disheartned at the slow wheels of justice for kids like Haleigh. I am praying that PCSO is thinking about her as much as we all do.

 

[doobiedoo52]

:blowkiss:

Doobie...because I care, I want you to put a plastic sheet over you as I commence to toss the heirlooms at ya..

LOL Thanks Whisp--I hear they're good for the complexion :floorlaugh:

 

[SoSueMe]

I've been thinking about the blanket being in the "van they took." It has been said (I believe by NayNay) that Ron gathered up Misty's clothes that weekend and threw them in someone's yard (Ron's way of breaking up with someone). I'm thinking that maybe he gathered all of Misty's clothes and threw them on the bed, gathered them up in the blanket and used the blanket to carry the clothes out of the house. He then throws the blanket with the clothes in the yard and maybe that's how Misty ends up with the blanket (in the van they took)? I don't know, this case is driving me nutso.

 

[azwriter]

I'm resisting the very thought of starting over but I definitely share your pain over this dang case. However, I do not think enought focus has been put on Ron Cummings side of the family. They were very involved in the goings on in Haleigh life at the time and date that she became missing. So far, we don't know what Ron was up to two days prior to Haleigh's disappearance. We also do not know where the children were during the previous two day prior to Haleigh's disappearance. We don't know how much time Teresa or Annette were with the children up to the 911 call. We have found out way late that Teresa was trying to contact Misty and when she did contact her, she was begging her to babysit that Monday night, even if she had to pay her. We found out way late, at least nine days later, that GGMS reportedly showed up at the Mh that night with someone else (reportedly, a nurse) to
"check on the children" and then later the additional comment of "bringing over laundry". Absolutely nothing was said about these two people at the time of the disappearance....Why? First, GGMS and Teresa were practically worshiping the ground Misty walked on, then GGMS gave an interview stating that she was furious that Ron was going to allow Misty back into the house, that she was very angry that Misty had left Ron without a babysitter.:waitasec: Now, we know that Teresa was desperately trying to contact Misty to babysit that Monday night on February 9th, why? If Ron was on time to work, then who was staying with the children? With the doors locked up tight, according to Ron? What? Did he lock the babysitter up with the children?????? And the numerous, conflicting stories of events that Monday starting with the early morning of Haleigh whinning and demanding a certain outfit that was supposedly at GGMS so Ron loads the family up (along with Misty?) and treks over to GGMS to get the outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear to school. Mean while we also have read reports that Ron worked tree work that morning, also reportedly slept the morning away in bed with Misty until Haleigh got out of school. Misty reportedly traveled to Gainsville to see her father in the hospital at the same time that she was sleeping it up with Ron in bed at his home.:waitasec: Ron picked up Haleigh, Misty picked up Haleigh and I've even read where Teresa picked up Haleigh. Misty showed up at the Mh just in time for Ron to go to work according to GGMS. Misty was there at around 5:30 pm when the AC man came to do routine maintenance. :waitasec: Misty was there all night, Tommy came by at Ron's request because he couldn't get Misty on the phone at around 10:45 pm. Misty wasn't there per Tommy. Misty was home sleeping per Misty? Joe took the van per Chelsea while she was filling out insurance paperwork. Returned it all scratched up and damaged during the early morning. Joe came by the Mh to steal a gun from Ronald and was pizzed when it wasn't there per Misty. Joe took Haleigh and left after threatening everyone per Misty and Tommy. Joe disposed of Haleigh in the river per Misty and Tommy and Granma Flo. Tommy, Misty, Ron, Hope and Donna decide to deal drugs while waiting on Haleigh to be found per all of them. Now, Ron's going to tell everything he knows although he claims to know absolutely nothing...........
I don't think I'm ready to drop all of this wonderful information and start on the Crystal Sheffield family. It is much too interesting just trying to figure out the people who were definitely involved with Haleigh on the night that she disappeared.

Put a cover on this post and it could be a book, Lone. Great post that points out the confusion and possible lies from this group. This has become a puzzle where it's difficult to believe anyone. Even Jr's version has become questionable. jmo

 

[dodie20]

Put a cover on this post and it could be a book, Lone. Great post that points out the confusion and possible lies from this group. This has become a puzzle where it's difficult to believe anyone. Even Jr's version has become questionable. jmo

the main problem I have with Jr's account, is that he said, (reportedly), that a man in black, with squeaky shoes, came & took Haleigh. That goes against everything Tommy has said about a raging, maniacal Joe. (I'm leaving out Misty's input, because she was supposedly hiding, & Tommy makes claim to an eyewitness account). So, if Jr. heard the squeaky shoes, I'm thinking that trailer was very quiet indeed, & Misty was either gone, (most likely), or sound asleep. Trailer floors are notoriously unlevel & squeaky, so that may be what Jr. heard, but either way, I think that house was stone cold still, & he heard something. So, I'm thinking that instead of all of the drama, someone either sneaked in, & took Haleigh, or just walked into a quiet, still house, & retrieved her. (thinking the kids were asleep). But why???? The thing about the squeaky shoes really bothers me. especially added to the fact, that Lindsey told Tommy, that she threw away his & Timmy's work boots. I can't help but feel that was significant, because her telling it was so random. Of all of the ways to clean & straighten up clutter, why toss a couple of pairs of boots? & then why did she think it was important enough to relate to Tommy? & I find it odd, that in most of Misty's accounts, she claims to be sleeping or hiding, or whatever...but it does serve the purpose of not backing her into a corner & locking her into certain details. So, I think she was probably gone, & others have been feeding her details, & keeping her role, to a minimum. Somebody(s), doesn't want Misty to screw up the story. & I do believe it's several somebodys-manipulating her for their own self interests.