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General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

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I just cant think of a working theory that has evidence of Haleigh that night at the mondex and also at the river. I would think if a family was going to dispose of one of their own, burial would be the option, I just cant see them throwing her in the water, and along with Rons careless talkings to Cobra, saying shes prob down there with the gators... I think the exact truth is opposite, I feel Annette and Teresa scrambled to the lake because of the what if Ronald did do something factor... I waiver greatly on their involvement, but I think they have been pawns.


i thought TN and AS were searching in the woods BY the st. john's river..

so maybe tommy said she was dumped in the water when in reality she WAS buried.

as far as the mondex search, maybe there was evidence dumped into the mondex that AS didn't want to be linked back to them

JMO
 
i thought TN and AS were searching in the woods BY the st. john's river..

so maybe tommy said she was dumped in the water when in reality she WAS buried.

as far as the mondex search, maybe there was evidence dumped into the mondex that AS didn't want to be linked back to them

JMO

This is a possibility~~~~~~ What was withthe rose? ron led them to it and Misty said she saw it in a dream!
 
This is a possibility~~~~~~ What was withthe rose? ron led them to it and Misty said she saw it in a dream!

Since Ron led them to it, my guess would be a red herring. IMO, the real evidence would be in the opposite direction from where Ron led anyone>:twocents:
 
Since Ron led them to it, my guess would be a red herring. IMO, the real evidence would be in the opposite direction from where Ron led anyone>:twocents:

exactly nonni! for all we know, that rose was planted between the time misty said that and ron led them to it just kidding
 
LOL i agree and i know she wasnt working the dispatch job but i thought someone a friend of hers still working there probably called her and told her what was going on.

To my knowledge Teresa Neves has never worked for or at PCSO in any capacity.
Also, IMHO I suspect TN received the news something had happened to Haleigh long before that 911 call ever went in to dispatch. And for me.. long before means.. many many many many many hours before 911 was ever called...JMHO
 
To my knowledge Teresa Neves has never worked for or at PCSO in any capacity.
Also, IMHO I suspect TN received the news something had happened to Haleigh long before that 911 call ever went in to dispatch. And for me.. long before means.. many many many many many hours before 911 was ever called...JMHO

I agree 100% Em. :seeya:
 
Probably so and ill be the dispatcher at the Sheriffs office calld Theresa that night and gtave her a heads up! JMO At 2 15 not 3 30...

Eileen, my bet is that Ron had already called Teresa waaaay earlier asking Teresa for help. She knew much earlier that 2:15, and it wasn't LE that called her. JMO
 
Well, LE keeping the case so secret and under wraps due to any information the public has or seeks is detrimental to the case is definitely not working. They may have chosen another tactic when this one failed.

Why do we not have any search warrants or affidavits in this case? Heck, I don't even think we have the correct incident report. I am betting there is a corrected one that we have not seen.The only games played were to make sure the public gets nothing. I see no reason for this strategy...unless LE doesn't want to be judged.

IMO, it would have been better to throw it out there and let the rats chew on it. Instead they let the little mice hide and never show their faces. They all had attorneys. At this point, it may have been wise to declare them all suspects in the case and let the questioning begin. :needdrink:

ITA that it certainly seems to me to have proven detrimental in this case TO NOT HAVE RELEASED MORE INFO TO THE PUBLIC!! You would think that common sense would tell these lead investigators that obviously there tactics thus far taken have not worked/failed to produce anything that leads to Haleigh's whereabouts nor any proof of what even occurred to Haleigh..I mean isn't the very definition of crazy to continue to do the exact same thing over and over repeatedly with the expectation of a different outcome??... Because those in charge definitely have 2+yrs worth of their repeating the exact same tactics all with the exact same outcome{i.e. continuing to interrogate..threaten with stiff sentences[and God knows what else]..and repeat time after time the same questions and pleas to the same people..all with the exact same outcome}..equaling getting absolutely nowhere with Haleigh's investigation..

So..WHY..WHY..WHY??? DO WE HAVE THIS LE CONTINUING TO REPEAT THE SAME TACTICS WHEN 2+YRS OF HISTORY HAS CLEARLY PROVEN THIS TACTIC TO BE A COMPLETE AND UTTER FAILURE!!!!!..AArrghhh!!! and AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHhhhhhhhhh!!!!
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Just makes you wanna scream with frustration!!

And then about the lack of info/docs that have been released and available for us to view and have absolute knowledge of things that thus far we are not able to discern as fact vs. fiction..Is there a particular investigative reporter..local..that has stayed consistent in reporting on Haleigh's investigation and seems to have atleast a decent head on their shoulders{lol..certainly don't want to set my expectations to high..as with the way this case goes that'd be doomed for certain let down/disappointment}..My reason for asking is there a certain reporter such as what I described is because they would most likely know what all had been requested thru the FOIA in the 2+ years of Haleigh's case..as well as know what all had been already denied access to by the agencies that are being requested of the info...If there is no one such as a competent and consistent investigative reporter that has kept with Haleigh's case then if I were a betting woman I'd be willing to bet that these docs of which we speak[affidavits..search warrants..etc]HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN REQUESTED FOR RELEASE TO US THE PUBLIC THRU THE FOIA...

This would atleast get us to where we could know for certain what HAS and what HAS NOT been requested..released..and/or denied in all things Re:Haleigh Cummings..at which point we could do one of two things.. One if someone knows of a decent investigative reporter that they think would be interested in such docs of Haleigh's case we could flood this reporters email/contacts with requests{more like demands at this point..lol}for their to follow thru with requesting these docs from their proper agencies..or two we could go the route of one or several of us working together to go about the proper steps in requesting this specific info/docs that we are speaking of..Because thru the FOIA any/all citizens have the right to go thru these proper steps of requesting such info in a case..Thje reason I list the reporter as the first avenue is that it seems as tho news entities have more success in receiving the release of the docs and in a much more timely fashion than as one of us as a private citizen...

Just a few thoughts if anyone is interested in checking to see if we could somehow get some of the info in this case released..or atleast request its release..KWIM???

Because all I do know for certain at this point is that we are beating our heads on brick walls and definitely at an all time limit on frustrations in all things surrounding this case..
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Eileen, my bet is that Ron had already called Teresa waaaay earlier asking Teresa for help. She knew much earlier that 2:15, and it wasn't LE that called her. JMO


agreed.
i think she was one of the first to find out what happened.
she may have even known before AS depending on what actually happened. if it wasn't AS who found haleigh, i think Ron might have called Teresa before he called AS... AS raised him.. TN was less of a "parent" and he might have felt more comfortable to tell TN
 
Sorry, I do apologize... I must have missed your correction.

Its ok Em No worries :innocent:

Hey Em do you know if Teresa Neves took a POLY??????

I swear this woman buried this child!!!!!!
Ill bet the man in black is her bf he took her out....
 
agreed.
i think she was one of the first to find out what happened.
she may have even known before AS depending on what actually happened. if it wasn't AS who found haleigh, i think Ron might have called Teresa before he called AS... AS raised him.. TN was less of a "parent" and he might have felt more comfortable to tell TN

Exactly!!!! I think ron and the kids lived with GGS.

How long had they lived in the trailor? do u know?
 
ITA that it certainly seems to me to have proven detrimental in this case TO NOT HAVE RELEASED MORE INFO TO THE PUBLIC!! You would think that common sense would tell these lead investigators that obviously there tactics thus far taken have not worked/failed to produce anything that leads to Haleigh's whereabouts nor any proof of what even occurred to Haleigh..I mean isn't the very definition of crazy to continue to do the exact same thing over and over repeatedly with the expectation of a different outcome??... Because those in charge definitely have 2+yrs worth of their repeating the exact same tactics all with the exact same outcome{i.e. continuing to interrogate..threaten with stiff sentences[and God knows what else]..and repeat time after time the same questions and pleas to the same people..all with the exact same outcome}..equaling getting absolutely nowhere with Haleigh's investigation..

So..WHY..WHY..WHY??? DO WE HAVE THIS LE CONTINUING TO REPEAT THE SAME TACTICS WHEN 2+YRS OF HISTORY HAS CLEARLY PROVEN THIS TACTIC TO BE A COMPLETE AND UTTER FAILURE!!!!!..AArrghhh!!! and AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHhhhhhhhhh!!!!
emfrustrated5.gif
Just makes you wanna scream with frustration!!

And then about the lack of info/docs that have been released and available for us to view and have absolute knowledge of things that thus far we are not able to discern as fact vs. fiction..Is there a particular investigative reporter..local..that has stayed consistent in reporting on Haleigh's investigation and seems to have atleast a decent head on their shoulders{lol..certainly don't want to set my expectations to high..as with the way this case goes that'd be doomed for certain let down/disappointment}..My reason for asking is there a certain reporter such as what I described is because they would most likely know what all had been requested thru the FOIA in the 2+ years of Haleigh's case..as well as know what all had been already denied access to by the agencies that are being requested of the info...If there is no one such as a competent and consistent investigative reporter that has kept with Haleigh's case then if I were a betting woman I'd be willing to bet that these docs of which we speak[affidavits..search warrants..etc]HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN REQUESTED FOR RELEASE TO US THE PUBLIC THRU THE FOIA...

This would atleast get us to where we could know for certain what HAS and what HAS NOT been requested..released..and/or denied in all things Re:Haleigh Cummings..at which point we could do one of two things.. One if someone knows of a decent investigative reporter that they think would be interested in such docs of Haleigh's case we could flood this reporters email/contacts with requests{more like demands at this point..lol}for their to follow thru with requesting these docs from their proper agencies..or two we could go the route of one or several of us working together to go about the proper steps in requesting this specific info/docs that we are speaking of..Because thru the FOIA any/all citizens have the right to go thru these proper steps of requesting such info in a case..Thje reason I list the reporter as the first avenue is that it seems as tho news entities have more success in receiving the release of the docs and in a much more timely fashion than as one of us as a private citizen...Just a few thoughts if anyone is interested in checking to see if we could somehow get some of the info in this case released..or atleast request its release..KWIM???

Because all I do know for certain at this point is that we are beating our heads on brick walls and definitely at an all time limit on frustrations in all things surrounding this case..
emfrustrated3.gif

My understanding is the news media doesn't release anything w/o PCSO's approval... Seems there is a good working relationship in place down there between news media and LE..JMHO

ETA.. Whatever the case...Don't call Matt Saffer (sp)
 
i thought TN and AS were searching in the woods BY the st. john's river..

so maybe tommy said she was dumped in the water when in reality she WAS buried.

as far as the mondex search, maybe there was evidence dumped into the mondex that AS didn't want to be linked back to them

JMO

See Tiki, that's what I am thinking too. Something was not right with those two locations...at the Mondex, Annette made her appearance known and iirc, said something about Haleigh not being there...IMO, something was there, not necessarily Haleigh, but something related to what happened to her. The only thing that stands out about that search was the marijuana plants being found....at least to me.

At the Shell Harbor search, Annette and Teresa was present before the search even began...I wonder if they showed up there while LE was actually searching? After this particular search, LE declared this a homocide investigation...I don't know what they found, if anything, but apparently whatever the case it was enough to change the investigation.

IMO, these two women knew the significance of both of these places but what confuses me is the fact that Tommy seemed to be the one to lead LE to both of those places...how is that possible? I can't figure that one out.
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