General theory thread and motives rehashed #4

[krkrjx]

We have been thrown a lot of BS. I have never found a cert license for Katrina.I don't think there was much landscaping happening after Eric Belcher mysteriously died in 2004. Katrina had a window tinting business and still claimed landscaping but I doubt there was much there. I think rc would like the window tinting part of the (decal anyone?) business. I often wondered if Katrina helped him out with paperwork for Court. Afterall it was a private business but I don't think it could survive once Eric died.

We have recently seen documents where it was Katrina that did most of the babysitting. She was the primary caretaker of JR. If you recall, ron took him when he was 6 months old. I think the children were split for quite a while. Katrina (hope?) also watched him ofter after 2/9/09...from what was said.

I hope Katrina didn't take information with her to her grave. The Cummings ran Geraldo off with legal help citing a trespassing law and perhaps a restraining order. Greta said there was not much info to be gathered at the time she was there, it looked like a ghost town. Media is not welcome in Putnam County...or so it appears. I contend we have been deceived from almost all angles.

IMO, you are right on! Deceived from all angles from LE all the way down to the NayNays of the community. Sometimes I think the only person even capable of being truthful in this whole thing is Junior. But a lot of people won't give him much credence while they believe everything and anything the Cummings/Neves/Sykes spew, and still give LE credit for doing all they could have done even though they have probably not pushed the C/N/S clan to any useful degree about their lies. Geez, my Yikes Meter goes off just typing that! MOO is that LE would negate anything Junior said or could say if a Cummings/Neves/Sykes piped up saying Junior is too young to have noticed anything.

As for Katrina being a certified health care worker, even if she had been employed at one time cleaning bedpans in a nursing home her clan would, IMO, make it sound like she was practically a RN.

You say it's all BS...and I second that.

 

[stilettos]

somebody, (somebodys), besides the prisoners, IMO, knows plenty. The right investigative tactics could get this information. MOO.

IMO TN and GGM know alot if not everything...I think TN is in it to her eyeballs.

 

[krkrjx]

As for Misty, I have no sympathy at all for her. My take on her possibly adjusting in prison has nothing at all to do with sympathy or with feeling she deserves a break. She doesn't deserve the time of day and I believe she has answers that could assist LE if not break the case wide open. My heart says Misty should suffer every minute of her life until she comes clean...but my head tells me that until Misty gains some kind of human emotion and moral values, she will not do the right thing. And top that off with the fact that Misty WILL BE RELEASED from prison one day, and for the good of whatever community she lives in, I would prefer to see a rehabilitated Misty set free over a bitter, dangerous one.

 

[Cross Creek]

If the perps are in prison, why is fresh eyes needed? You cant force someone to do the right thing and tell the truth. This is probably a case that can't be cracked without a confession. I am thankful they are off the street.

Because there's more that had knowledge and/or involvement. :twocents:

 

[Cross Creek]

I wonder who SAS is???? Anyone have any ideas?

Can I put the name here?

 

[Chablis]

somebody, (somebodys), besides the prisoners, IMO, knows plenty. The right investigative tactics could get this information. MOO.

We have no idea what they LE have have in their hands. And really, the only tactics that could get Misty and Ron to spill are probably illegal. You cant force them to do anything, but if you can get them on other things, that will have to be sufficient for now.

 

[Emeralgem]

We have no idea what they LE have have in their hands. And really, the only tactics that could get Misty and Ron to spill are probably illegal. You cant force them to do anything, but if you can get them on other things, that will have to be sufficient for now.

BBM..Not for me it isn't sufficient for now and it won't ever be sufficient..Just because they put Ron C, Hope, Misty and Tommy in jail for trafficking drugs doesn't solve this case...Now or ever..

There are others in Ron C's family who are not in jail, who know exactly what happened to Haleigh and have been involved since day one with covering up what really happened to Haleigh... Let me add.. They still are And still doing everything within their power to keep the truth from ever being revelaed...... IMHO.. LE in Putnam County has done absolutely nothing to apply any pressure to any of these people... And IMHO.. It's high time they start...It's long past overdue..JMHO

IMHO There are entirely too too many people, PCSO included, who want nothing more than for this case to just go away so the TRUTH concerning what really happend to Haleigh and who is really responsible for what happened to Haleigh will never be revealed.... I, for one, refuse to give them what they want...

 

[Whisperer]

Can I put the name here?

I don't know and I am curious ..LOL.

Tried to research the Squires to find those initials. Wow, the Squires sure get into a lot of trouble for poaching,etc. I know there were arrests involved with ron and the two of them more than once. Even the son of these two gets in trouble with violence, etc. What is it with this family. Gads, the men are violent and the women protect them. If the women get fed up, they file injunctions and then change their minds when the men fall back in line..crazy, just crazy behavior.

I will say that this Donald, Elisa G and ron are pretty darn tight. If you notice throughout this case, all men stay well-hidden. Only women speak out.

The only exception was Johnny Sheffield....but even he has been quiet for two years

 

[Whisperer]

The sub-culture found in this area is paramount to this case. I would have thought LE would have profiled all of them to find the truth. They live by the motto of "Zip your lips to the cops". "Don't rat out family" was the other saying. Don't be surprised if those words aren't on their tombstones.

Difficult to interview any of the cummings though. When cops get close, they hire an attorney. Once an attorney is on board, everything comes to a screeching halt. Anyone notice how quickly ron lawyered up when his daughter vanished? Croslins just weren't that savvy.

 

[4Jacy]

BBM..Not for me it isn't sufficient for now and it won't ever be sufficient..Just because they put Ron C, Hope, Misty and Tommy in jail for trafficking drugs doesn't solve this case...Now or ever..

There are others in Ron C's family who are not in jail, who know exactly what happened to Haleigh and have been involved since day one with covering up what really happened to Haleigh... Let me add.. They still are And still doing everything within their power to keep the truth from ever being revelaed...... IMHO.. LE in Putnam County has done absolutely nothing to apply any pressure to any of these people... And IMHO.. It's high time they start...It's long past overdue..JMHO

IMHO There are entirely too too many people, PCSO included, who want nothing more than for this case to just go away so the TRUTH concerning what really happend to Haleigh and who is really responsible for what happened to Haleigh will never be revealed.... I, for one, refuse to give them what they want...[[/B]B]

BBM - I so totally agree with your whole statement and it was a great one. It will never be enough for me either that these people are in prison JUST for the drugs, because they are not in there for Haleigh also!

I know you, or I or the rest of WS will never give up, but where is it getting us? I mean really. We all have our theories, our suspects, we have gone everywhere on this case, backward and forward. Still nothing!

The only thing I believe we can do is to get a professional (as I mentioned on another thread) detective to get involved in this case. I don't know how we can go about it, unless we ask someone like Fuhrman or his ilk to get involved.

 

[krkrjx]

BBM - I so totally agree with your whole statement and it was a great one. It will never be enough for me either that these people are in prison JUST for the drugs, because they are not in there for Haleigh also!

I know you, or I or the rest of WS will never give up, but where is it getting us? I mean really. We all have our theories, our suspects, we have gone everywhere on this case, backward and forward. Still nothing!

The only thing I believe we can do is to get a professional (as I mentioned on another thread) detective to get involved in this case. I don't know how we can go about it, unless we ask someone like Fuhrman or his ilk to get involved.

I bet even Fuhrman wouldn't touch this case. But given that I have been wrong once or twice before, I think it's worth asking him. Shall we write a letter, or what?? A group effort?

ETA: Fuhrman takes cold cases. This case is not officially classed as cold so LE in PC could prohibit anyone from investigating the case. Which might be another reason why they won't reclassify.

 

[Whisperer]

I think people who may have answers or can fill in blanks in this case are the men who don't talk. High on the list is J. Hankins, for he knows exactly where TN was and what time she was there. J. Squires, if he was the a/c guy. Donald Squires, if Aunt Elisa G was w/ggma that night. (who is to say Donald wasn't w/them?)

Where was Rooster Cummings that night (not to mention TN)?

All of these above have been arrested at least once since Haleigh vanished. The number of times Steven Cummings, ron's cousin, has been arrested is obscene.

 

[Whisperer]

The men in the case are worlds apart, criminally speaking. I think if the Croslins are the men involved, then haleigh is in the river. If the Cummings Clan is involved, Haleigh is well-hidden.

The local Croslins didn't have much run-in with the law prior to 2/9/09. The local Cummings having been running into trouble and the law since puberty.

The Cummings know this area like the palm of their hand. For sure they know where all the species of animals live. They like to shoot them. The Croslins were new to Putnam County.

....On a side note, I have to wonder if TN and her lover are still on Rita Lane...LOL. Dollars to donuts they have moved.

 

[4Jacy]

I think people who may have answers or can fill in blanks in this case are the men who don't talk. High on the list is J. Hankins, for he knows exactly where TN was and what time she was there. J. Squires, if he was the a/c guy. Donald Squires, if Aunt Elisa G was w/ggma that night. (who is to say Donald wasn't w/them?)

Where was Rooster Cummings that night (not to mention TN)?

All of these above have been arrested at least once since Haleigh vanished. The number of times Steven Cummings, ron's cousin, has been arrested is obscene.

BBM
Not necessarily Whisp. Perhaps Jeff didn't know where TN was that night, she may have been with someone else. KWIM?

 

[Cross Creek]

BBM
Not necessarily Whisp. Perhaps Jeff didn't know where TN was that night, she may have been with someone else. KWIM?

I know what you mean! :innocent:

 

[Whisperer]

I wouldn't know how to entice Fuhrman down there. TN hated Geraldo, she would have a heart attack w/Furhman..lol

No outsiders are welcome. Why hasn't any of the mag rags got into this? Has the Enquirer even approached anyone? If they could get one talker they would pay some big bucks. Chelsea is ripe for that tactic.

 

[krkrjx]

We never know when Karma will come along and rock someone's world. I would just love to hear that the Rita Lane MH concrete slab was poured close to some water or gas lines that now have to be repaired. Dug up, and repaired. How cool would that be!

Granted, it might not yield anything. But I want that slab dug up just to be sure.

 

[Emeralgem]

I think people who may have answers or can fill in blanks in this case are the men who don't talk. High on the list is J. Hankins, for he knows exactly where TN was and what time she was there. J. Squires, if he was the a/c guy. Donald Squires, if Aunt Elisa G was w/ggma that night. (who is to say Donald wasn't w/them?)

Where was Rooster Cummings that night (not to mention TN)?

All of these above have been arrested at least once since Haleigh vanished. The number of times Steven Cummings, ron's cousin, has been arrested is obscene.

Say what? IF J Squires was the a/c guy and Merchant cleared him within an hour, I just might have a coronary..JMHO

 

[Emeralgem]

Say what? IF J Squires was the a/c guy and Merchant cleared him within an hour, I just might have a coronary..JMHO

Quoting myself..
Seriously IF the a/c man is in anyway connected to anyone in the Cummings/Neves/ Sykes Clan I plan to make a few calls to someone who will listen eventhough I am not a tax paying citizen in the state of Florida...

 

[4Jacy]

I know what you mean! :innocent:

That's right, you were down there and got a lot of dirt. PM or e:mail me will you, we can compare notes.