General theory thread and motives rehashed #5

[Chablis]

Oh gosh, am in the minority, which is fine, but Ronald loves his children and all he wants is HaLeigh back home, he would never harm her or knowingly cover for anyone who did IMO

Hes a murderer. jmo

 

[lil momma]

Thanks, I was hoping that there was something newer than the tattoo. I wish something really important will break......................:banghead:

I too hope it is something regarding HALEIGH and NOT Ron, but hopefully Levi will come on here and explain.

 

[Emeralgem]

Oh gosh, am in the minority, which is fine, but Ronald loves his children and all he wants is HaLeigh back home, he would never harm her or knowingly cover for anyone who did IMO

Ronald Cummings knows full well, as does his mother, that Haleigh is NOT coming home... Haleigh went home to God on February 9, 2009.
Ronald Cummings know this... He prove this on February 10, 2009 when he stated he would give his life to have his child's life back...

Also, in all reality, the ONLY person Ronald C is covering for is himself... He and his family are not accusing Misty and Tommy of killing Haleigh because he and his family know IF and when they do they will be the ones who will end up being convicted for Haleigh's death and orchestrating a coverup.. Not to mention they plotted to set up those they themselves engaged to help them that night....JMHO

 

[Emeralgem]

Sad as it is, I have finally reconciled myself to the fact Ronald Cummings, his mother and his grandmother will most probably NEVER be brought to justice for their actions and the part they played in Haleigh's death by LE in Florida....... IT IS WHAT IT IS...

However there is always INSTANT KARMA...JMHO

BTW.. Let me add.. Ronald Cummings has absolutely no concept, none whatsoever, of what love really is and neither does anyone in his family.. IF they did, we would all know what happened to Haleigh...So I'm not buying he loves his children..JMHO

 

[Chablis]

Sad as it is, I have finally reconciled myself to the fact Ronald Cummings, his mother and his grandmother will most probably NEVER be brought to justice for their actions and the part they played in Haleigh's death by LE in Florida....... IT IS WHAT IT IS...

However there is always INSTANT KARMA...JMHO

BTW.. Let me add.. Ronald Cummings has absolutely no concept, none whatsoever, of what love really is and neither does anyone in his family.. IF they did, we would all know what happened to Haleigh...So I'm not buying he loves his children..JMHO

Well, the 5 known pictures of him with his kids posing for the camera shows he loved them because hes smiling. But then ask the same people who think that what they make of Casey Anthony smiling with Caylee, the answers will astound you. Basically he tugs on somes heart strings, but so did Manson and Bundy, hardly anything new. jmo

 

[Emeralgem]

Well, the 5 known pictures of him with his kids posing for the camera shows he loved them because hes smiling. But then ask the same people who think that what they make of Casey Anthony smiling with Caylee, the answers will astound you. Basically he tugs on somes heart strings, but so did Manson and Bundy, hardly anything new. jmo

IIRC.. There is a mugshot of him smiling when he was arrested in January 2010 too.. Wanna bet he didn't love going to jail? A smile means nothing when it comes to how warped his thinking is...JMHO

 

[4Jacy]

Oh gosh, am in the minority, which is fine, but Ronald loves his children and all he wants is HaLeigh back home, he would never harm her or knowingly cover for anyone who did IMO [/QUOTE

Flossie, I can't understand why you're supporting of RC. If he truly loved little Haleigh and Jr., why were there drugs involved, the Mexicans, the guns. Why were the children eating from a can on a chilly Feb. evening. I wouldn't even do that to my dog!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why was he getting tatts, getting married, going to fairs, going on TV, going to NY for his "honeymoon", [B]why was he taking money from Jars for Haleigh? [/B]

Why was he going ATV speeding, why was he going to restaurants and demanding free food, and asking them, "don't you know who I am?"

Why did he say, " I would give up my life to have my daughter's life back."

Not saying RC did it, but that is NOT the way you look for your child. God help us all!!

 

[Flossie JMO]

Oh gosh, am in the minority, which is fine, but Ronald loves his children and all he wants is HaLeigh back home, he would never harm her or knowingly cover for anyone who did IMO

Flossie, I can't understand why you're supporting of RC.

1 If he truly loved little Haleigh and Jr., why were there drugs involved, the Mexicans, the guns.

2 Why were the children eating from a can on a chilly Feb. evening. I wouldn't even do that to my dog!!!!!!!!!!!!

3 Why was he getting tatts,

4 getting married,

5going to fairs,

6 going on TV,

7 going to NY for his "honeymoon",

8 why was he taking money from Jars for Haleigh?

9 Why was he going ATV speeding,

10 why was he going to restaurants and demanding free food, and asking them, "don't you know who I am?"

Why did he say,

" bbm 11 I would give up my life to have my daughter's life back."

Not saying RC did it, but that is NOT the way you look for your child. God help us all!!

Hi there. I understand we agree to disagree but I can say where some of my opinions come from, and why they differ from yours. I have added numbers to your points to try and make my response more clear, hope that's ok with you.

bbm1 - drugs on all sides of the family iirc. I don't know of any proof of Mexican or gun involvement with HaLeigh disappearing. Not sure why Mexican involvement would be a bad thing, not sure what is meant by that?

bbm2 - not the best for health, but many, many families eat food from cans. I don't think this is an issue. Now for my dogs, raw or home cooked or fresh frozen is best imo, but if one goes for prepared commercial food, canned is actually better than kibble, which the majority feed imo JMO

bbm3 - he got tats of both children iirc, I don't think getting tats is a bad thing? I have one myself. I also don't think he is the only family member of HaLeigh that did. JMO

bbm4 - I personally wouldn't have gotten married, but that's just me, I don't judge him for that. I believe he thought Misty was being attacked in the press etc, and believed she was innocent, and married her. I remember Susan Smith's hubby defending her, even though they were split, this is not uncommon imo. I don't think anyone wants to believe someone they loved would harm their child. JMO

bbm4 - Junior still neeed his family and I think they wanted to try and let him experience a normal life and something that he might enjoy, horrible for a child to lose their sister, missing or otherwise

bbm6 - all sides of family went on TV iirc

bbm7 - it was not a "honeymoon" imo, it was a family trip to get HaLeigh's name and story out imo, and yes, it will come up, I did of course see the pictures

bbm8 - imo that is vicious gossip and never been proven and I do not believe it happened JMO

bbm9 - imo - all sides of the family engaged in ATV stuff, not an issue imo, of course they all wanted to curl up and die imo, but none of them have

bbm 10 - imo that is vicious gossip and never been proven and I do not believe it happened imo

bbm11 - I would say the same I am sure, I don't find it strange at all

JMO I am not the best at several quotes, if I made any errors in responding I apologize

 

[4Jacy]

Hi, sweetheart. I wish I had as big and loving heart as yours, but I don't, I just can't. I wish you were right, but personally, I can't agree with it. Anyway, we can still agree to disagree and still be friends!
Going to bed now, too many flood issues I had to deal with today. LTA (love too all)

 

[Flossie JMO]

Hi, sweetheart. I wish I had as big and loving heart as yours, but I don't, I just can't. I wish you were right, but personally, I can't agree with it. Anyway, we can still agree to disagree and still be friends!
Going to bed now, too many flood issues I had to deal with today. LTA (love too all)

Hi buddy. You have a big and loving heart, and we always can agree to disagree and be friends.

So sorry you have flood issues, you ok? Hope so

Sleep well

 

[lonetraveler]

Found this old transcript of JVM tonight. This transcript is dated 2/25/09. A lot has happened since this transcript was issued. There are quiet a few subjects covered in this transcript and proves to be interesting when compared to the present. There is a lot of discussion about Ronald’s drug arrest history and lack of convictions. Also on this transcript, it is stated by Crystal Cummings that Ron had only worked on this night shift for three weeks.

Crystal Cummings calls in as well as Ron’s Pastor. I have snipped a little bit of the conversation but I recommend reading the entire script. It appears that Crystal Cummings did not have any problem with lying for her brother either.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ijvm.01.html

C. CUMMINGS: Because he was told not to speak to anybody by the detectives.

C. CUMMINGS: I mean, I don`t see anybody -- I know he didn`t have any -- anyone that was against him or anything. So, I mean, really -- we -- we`re not getting any more information than you guys are. So I really couldn`t -- I mean, from me, my point of view, I think somebody that had been watching the house and knew when my brother went to work, because he`s only been on the night job for three weeks. So I think somebody -- somebody that knew that he was gone and went in that house and took Haleigh

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Just one last question. Yes or no. Does your brother have any enemies?

C. CUMMINGS: No.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Has he had any fights with people at all?

C. CUMMINGS: No, he hasn’t.

 

[4Jacy]

Hi buddy. You have a big and loving heart, and we always can agree to disagree and be friends.

So sorry you have flood issues, you ok? Hope so

Sleep well

Thank you darling, and just to let you know, I alway, even if I don't agree with them, respect your views......now I'm really going to bed!!!

 

[lonetraveler]

Sad as it is, I have finally reconciled myself to the fact Ronald Cummings, his mother and his grandmother will most probably NEVER be brought to justice for their actions and the part they played in Haleigh's death by LE in Florida....... IT IS WHAT IT IS...

However there is always INSTANT KARMA...JMHO

BTW.. Let me add.. Ronald Cummings has absolutely no concept, none whatsoever, of what love really is and neither does anyone in his family.. IF they did, we would all know what happened to Haleigh...So I'm not buying he loves his children..JMHO

I totally agree with your post EM with the exception that Ronald doesn't have any concept of what love really is...............I believe that Ronald truly loves himself, I really do. I think that Ronald thought of his children as possessions and he probably "loved" his grandmother and mother as long as they were doing something to benefit him. Same thing with girlfriends, as long as he can benefit from whatever they can offer.............he is in luvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Thank you darling, and just to let you know, I alway, even if I don't agree with them, respect your views......now I'm really going to bed!!!

Night night sleep tight xo

 

[Gwen]

I totally agree with your post EM with the exception that Ronald doesn't have any concept of what love really is...............I believe that Ronald truly loves himself, I really do. I think that Ronald thought of his children as possessions and he probably "loved" his grandmother and mother as long as they were doing something to benefit him. Same thing with girlfriends, as long as he can benefit from whatever they can offer.............he is in luvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv.

BBM

This is exactly what I think too. People are totally disposable to Ron. The only ones that matter are those that enable him to be Ron. Ron loves himself first and foremost regardless.

I think his relationship with GGS and TN are perfect examples of how Ron manipulates and uses people. I really think he plays on the obvious conflict between mother/grandmother to get his way. Grandma is jealous of his attention to his real mom. I think she feels she is the primary matriach to Ron because she raised him. Teresa is in a way blackmailed into doing his bidding. She can still make up for leaving him if she backs his play and provides excuses for his mistakes. He totally uses these tactics to get his way. I would venture a hefty bet that he has wore the both of these women out with his games of "who really loves me most?".

I have seen this dynamic in my own family. My parents adopted one of my nieces and now that she is grown she keeps my sister and mother at odds. She does it just the way I stated above. She tells my sister that she never loved her to get to do whatever she wants (and I do mean any extreme she demands). She tells my mom that she is the 'mother' in her life to get whatever she wants as well. Pits them against each other, all the while lying to both and reeking havoc on the family and benefits for herself.

I hate to say this but (IMO as a result of my first hand observation of this type of situation) I think the mothers and grandmothers are sicker than the child. In the case Ron, there was in addition to the already obvious issues of dealing with his 'mom issues', there was lack of discipline. There was obviously no effort to control, train or teach him respect for anyone. The thought that he is the most important thing in the world is reinforced everytime these women feel insecure enough to give into his demands.

In short, I totally believe either or both, TN or AS would do aid/abet Ron in anything he demands. Sadly, I think even if it meant covering up the death and concealment of a grandchild. It is a sick relationship all the way around. Who is sicker? I think it is just depends on whose dysfunction is more obvious and desperate from day to day.

This is MOO.

 

[GER]

Hi there. I understand we agree to disagree but I can say where some of my opinions come from, and why they differ from yours. I have added numbers to your points to try and make my response more clear, hope that's ok with you.

bbm1 - drugs on all sides of the family iirc. I don't know of any proof of Mexican or gun involvement with HaLeigh disappearing. Not sure why Mexican involvement would be a bad thing, not sure what is meant by that?

bbm2 - not the best for health, but many, many families eat food from cans. I don't think this is an issue. Now for my dogs, raw or home cooked or fresh frozen is best imo, but if one goes for prepared commercial food, canned is actually better than kibble, which the majority feed imo JMO

bbm3 - he got tats of both children iirc, I don't think getting tats is a bad thing? I have one myself. I also don't think he is the only family member of HaLeigh that did. JMO

bbm4 - I personally wouldn't have gotten married, but that's just me, I don't judge him for that. I believe he thought Misty was being attacked in the press etc, and believed she was innocent, and married her. I remember Susan Smith's hubby defending her, even though they were split, this is not uncommon imo. I don't think anyone wants to believe someone they loved would harm their child. JMO

bbm4 - Junior still neeed his family and I think they wanted to try and let him experience a normal life and something that he might enjoy, horrible for a child to lose their sister, missing or otherwise

bbm6 - all sides of family went on TV iirc

bbm7 - it was not a "honeymoon" imo, it was a family trip to get HaLeigh's name and story out imo, and yes, it will come up, I did of course see the pictures

bbm8 - imo that is vicious gossip and never been proven and I do not believe it happened JMO

bbm9 - imo - all sides of the family engaged in ATV stuff, not an issue imo, of course they all wanted to curl up and die imo, but none of them have

bbm 10 - imo that is vicious gossip and never been proven and I do not believe it happened imo

bbm11 - I would say the same I am sure, I don't find it strange at all

JMO I am not the best at several quotes, if I made any errors in responding I apologize

Thank YOU! :lol:

 

[christee]

thank you! :lol:

OMG...ITA!

JMO

:thumb: :biggrin:

 

[Peachy]

Thank YOU! :lol:

:goodpost:

 

[titanfan62702]

Good morning.

It wouldn't matter how many witnesses and even photos of Ron and his family -- someone would make an excuse or twist it that it didn't happen.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Back on topic, I wonder if anyone has any new opinions on motive and what happened. I can't get past Misty and Tommy.