General theory thread and motives rehashed #5

[titanfan62702]

Link please.

Looks like you'll get yours the same way I'll get the one I asked for earlier -- not.

However, I do remember seeing documents about Crystal trying to provide her side when it comes to Ron taking the children. They may be harder to locate since technically they should be sealed.

 

[mkay882]

The court documents I have show Crystal never fought.
She even refused the extra 10 days to get her 'stuff' together the judge offered her before the he ruled.
When she declined Ron was awarded custody.

 

[titanfan62702]

The court documents I have show Crystal never fought.
She even refused the extra 10 days to get her 'stuff' together the judge offered her before the he ruled.
When she declined Ron was awarded custody.

Too bad you didn't get everything though who knows whether someone in the court system "lost" them.

 

[Chablis]

The court documents I have show Crystal never fought.
She even refused the extra 10 days to get her 'stuff' together the judge offered her before the he ruled.
When she declined Ron was awarded custody.

Wow, she makes Casey Anthony look docile!!!!

 

[Dr. Know?]

Well, Ronald claimed to have hit the inside door with his fist in his explanation for the bloody injuries on his hands. LE swabbed his hands and reportedly checked the blood against blood found on the door.

Gah, it's been long ago but thought that information came from Crystal's fired lawyer who posted on other sites as well, only it was a wall not a door that Ron hit? Is that MSM link gone too? Hey lone! This has gone on too long with Haleigh missing. I wonder how scared whoever did it is knowing that maybe one day it would all be figured out. What a personal hell. Good.

 

[mkay882]

Too bad you didn't get everything though who knows whether someone in the court system "lost" them.

LOL
Funny "someone" in the court system "lost" only those documents showing how hard and long Crystal fought for her kids.
What are the odds?

 

[Chablis]

LOL
Funny "someone" in the court system "lost" only those documents showing how hard and long Crystal fought for her kids.
What are the odds?

So should we petition the State of Florida and see if they can take Junior from Crystal and make a cell next to daddy so Ron can raise him from the clink? Maybe he can show Junior and enlighten him on his new life in the Aryan Brotherhood? I will never understand the hatred towards a young mother, especially when you know how she was raised, I mean whats the issue, she didn't fight with all her money to take the kids from a druggie? If he was such a awesome father why care if she fought or not, no matter what way anyone wants to cheapen it, she went to court to fight for her kids more than once, had she never showed up once there may be an argument she didn't care and was a loser. People mess up, at least shes not sporting new Nazi ink on her neck.

 

[Concerned Papa]

The court documents I have show Crystal never fought.
She even refused the extra 10 days to get her 'stuff' together the judge offered her before the he ruled.
When she declined Ron was awarded custody.

According to the Putnam County Docket, someone fought or this docket, spanning almost FIVE years, would only be a few lines long.

UCN: 542005DR001321FDXXXX
File Date: 09/16/2005
Disposition Date: 11/08/2007
File Type: PATERNITY
Judge: A W NICHOLS III
Case File Location: RECORDS CENTER

Plaintiffs CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES
Defendants SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE

Date Docket Description
09/16/2005 001.PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF
09/16/2005 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE
09/16/2005 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.
09/16/2005 004.FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT - PETITIONER
09/16/2005 005.NOTICE OF SOCIAL SECURITY - PETITIONER
09/16/2005 006.REQUEST FOR SUMMONS TO BE ISSUED
09/16/2005 007. SUMMONS ISSUED:CRYSTAL DIANE SHEFFIELD 9/19/2005
09/16/2005 .ADDRESS:11024 ARROWBROOK JAX FL 32221
09/16/2005 .SUMM RT 10-26-05 SVD 10-05-05 DUE 10-25-05
10/18/2005 008. ANSWER FILED BY PETITIONER
10/26/2005 009. MOTION TO SET HEARING
10/26/2005 010. MOTION FOR DEFAULT
10/27/2005 011. DEFAULT ENTERED
10/27/2005 012.CLERK'S CERTIFICATE
11/01/2005 013. EMERGENCY VERIFED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER
11/01/2005 015.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.
11/01/2005 016. ORDER SETTING ASIDE DEFAULT - EEH
11/01/2005 017.ORDER OF REFERRAL TO GENERAL MAGISTRATE - EEH
11/01/2005 .PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND FOR RELATED RELIEF
11/01/2005 .FILED BY PETITIONER
11/01/2005 014.CERTFICATE OF COMPLETITION - CRYSTAL CUMMINGS
11/22/2005 018. COPY - NOTICE OF HEARING - 12-01-05 @ 9:00 RMP
11/22/2005 .PETITIONERS MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY
12/01/2005 019. FAMILY COURT MIN - PET. PRES, RESP. NOT PRES,
12/01/2005 .C/S TO BE DETERMINED, SHARED PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH
12/01/2005 .FATHER,. STANDARD AT FATHER DISCREATION, JUDICALLY
12/01/2005 .RECOGNIZED 05-1354 -FD, RONALD CUMMINGS DECLARED LEGAL
12/01/2005 .FATHER OF BOTH CHILDREN , SHARED PARENTAL RESPONSLIBILTY
12/01/2005 .WITH PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH FATHER, STANDARD
12/01/2005 .VISITATION DISCRESTION OF FATHER IF SAFETY FOR THE
12/01/2005 .CHILDREN CONCERNS ADVISE, 24 HRS NOTICE TO EXCERSISE
12/01/2005 .VISITATION , MOTHER NOT TO REMOVE CHILDREN FROM THE
12/01/2005 .STATE OF FLORIDA WITHOUT FATHERS WRITTN CONSENT OR
12/01/2005 .FURTHER ORDER OF THE COURT
12/05/2005 022.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GENERAL MASTER-MP
12/05/2005 .PET. FOUND TO BE FATHER OF MINOR CHILDREN, SHARED
12/05/2005 .PARENTAL RESPONSLIBLITY, WITH PETITIONER HAVING
12/05/2005 .PRIMARY RESIDENTAL CUSTODY, UNSUPERVISED VISITATION
12/05/2005 .ACCORDING TO STANDARD VISITATION SCHEDULE, MOTHER TO
12/05/2005 .PAY C/S OF $323/MTH TO BEGININING WHEN ORDER SIGNED
12/05/2005 .BOTH PARTIES TO MAINTAIN MEDICAID INSURANCE ON BOTH
12/05/2005 .CHILDREN
12/05/2005 020. NOTICE OF CURRENT ADDRESS - CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD
12/05/2005 021.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE - RESPONDENT
12/06/2005 023. FAXED LETTER FROM RESPONDENT TO MAGISTRATE IN RE:
12/06/2005 .REHEARING
12/08/2005 024. RETURN TO SENDER - REPORT AND RECOMMEDATION - RESP.
12/13/2005 025. NOTICE OF HEARING - 12-27-05 @ 10:30 RMP - PETITIONERS
12/13/2005 .MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF
12/13/2005 026. ORDER GRANTING MOTION FOR REHEARING - RMP -
12/27/2005 027.CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF PARENTING CLASS
12/27/2005 RESPONDENT
12/27/2005 028.FAMILY COURT MINUTES
01/03/2006 029.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GEN.MAG. ON FJ OF PATERNITY
01/06/2006 030. MOTION FOR REHEARING AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS
01/06/2006 OF MAGISTRATE
01/20/2006 031.MOTION TO STRIKE OR DIMISS MOTION FOR REHEARING
01/20/2006 AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS OF MAGISTRATE-PETITIONER
01/24/2006 032.NOTICE OF HEARING-HRG SET FOR 02/28/06 @ 1:30
01/24/2006 EEH-COURTROOM 305
01/25/2006 033.NOTICE OF HEARING-HRG SET FOR 02/28/06 @ 1:30-EEH
01/31/2006 034.CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION-HUSBAND
02/28/2006 035.FAMILY COURT MINUTES
03/02/2006 036.NOTICE OF HEARING-SET FOR 04/06/06 @ 3:00
03/09/2006 037.EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN - PETITIONER
03/15/2006 038.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30
03/16/2006 039.SUBPOENA FOR HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30
03/16/2006 SUBPOENA FOR: MICHAEL S WORD C/O WALMART DISTRIBUTION
03/16/2006 CENTER
03/20/2006 040.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR
03/20/2006 PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR
03/20/2006 CHILDREN
03/21/2006 041.FAMILY COURT MINUTES
03/22/2006 042.ORDER ON EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN
03/22/2006 043.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR
03/22/2006 PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR
03/22/2006 CHILDREN
04/04/2006 044.NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING
04/12/2006 045.NOTICE OF UN-AVAILABILITY-CHARLES BEHM-ESQUIRE
08/17/2006 046.NOTICE OF HEARING - STATUS CONFERENCE
08/17/2006 HRG SET FOR 10/04/06 @ 3:00 - EEH
10/04/2006 047.FAMILY COURT MINUTES-PET NOT PRESENT-R MURPHY PRESENT
10/04/2006 RESP NOT PRESENT-C BEHM PRESENT
12/28/2006 048.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 01/04/07 @ 3:30
01/04/2007 049.NOTICE OF FILING TRANSCRIPT - RESPONDENT
01/26/2007 050.NOTICE OF HEARING REGARDING OBJECTIONS TO FINDINGS
01/26/2007 OF MAGISTRATE-HRG SET FOR 02/13/07 @ 2:00 - EEH
02/13/2007 051.FAMILY COURT MINUTES PET PR RESP PR
02/22/2007 052.NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY OF COUNSEL - BEHM
05/11/2007 053.CORRESPONDENCE FROM NANCY GRIFFIS TO EEH
11/08/2007 054.ORDER APPROVING REPORT/RECOMMENDATIONS OF MAGISTRATE
11/26/2007 FL#200754636011
06/16/2008 055.DOR INTERCEPT IN THE AMOUNT OF $48.00 ON 06/16/08
02/10/2009 056.MOTION FOR CONTEMPT 03-27-09 AT 08:30
02/20/2009 057.NOTICE OF DISMISSAL
03/17/2009 058.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - KIM PICAZIO FOR CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD
03/20/2009 059.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE-T JERRY SNIDER FOR FATHER
03/26/2009 060.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON-PARTY
04/06/2009 061.OBJECTION TO NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON-PARTY
06/08/2009 062.MEMO FROM FINANCE TO KIM PICAZIO: UNCOLLECTED FUNDS HOLD
06/18/2009 063.MEMO FROM FINANCE TO KIM PICAZIO: PAYMENT OF UNCOLLECTED
06/18/2009 FUNDS HOLD DUE TO IDENTIFY THEFT
07/08/2009 064.NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY
07/14/2009 065.AGREED ORDER ON CHILDRENS ISSUES - AWN
07/14/2009 FL#200954681414
07/17/2009 066.MOTION TO WITHDRAW - KIM PICAZIO/RESPONDENT
07/22/2009 ----:NOTE TO FILE----(DKT#66) ATTORNEY TO SET HEARING
07/22/2009 08/05/09 @ 11:00 BY PHONE - AWN ----
07/27/2009 067.NOTICE OF HEARING/AWN FOR 08/05/09 AT 11:00
07/29/2009 068.CONSENT ON COUNSELS MOTION TO WITHDRAW-JERRY SNIDER
08/05/2009 069.FAMILY COURT MINUTES
08/10/2009 070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER
08/10/2009 071.MOTHERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR COUNSELING
08/10/2009 FOR MINOR CHILD
08/17/2009 072.NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - T JERRY SNIDER FOR
08/17/2009 RONALD CUMMINGS
08/18/2009 073.NOTICE OF SERVICE VIA UNITED STATES MAIL DELIVERY
08/18/2009 OF EMERGENCY MOTION TO RONALD L CUMMINGS
08/18/2009 074.NOTICE OF HEARING/AWN FOR 08/27/09 AT 03:00
08/19/2009 075.AMENDED NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - JERRY SNYDER
08/19/2009 076.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE-BRANDON BEARDSLEY FOR PETITIONER
08/25/2009 077.MOTHERS MOTION TO CLOSE HEARING AND/OR HOLD IN
08/25/2009 CHAMBERS - CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD
08/27/2009 078.FAMILY COURT MINUTES
08/31/2009 079.ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO WITHDRAW - KIM PICZIO
09/11/2009 080.CONSENT ORDER FOR COUNSELING FOR MINOR CHILD - AWN
10/26/2009 081.NOTICE OF UNAVAILABLITY
01/28/2010 082.NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION:BRANDON BEARDSLEY
06/29/2010 083.ORDER TERMINATING C/S OBLIGATION FOR MOTHER - AWN
06/29/2010 084.CORRESPONDENCE FROM AWN AND CHILD SUPPORT CLERK IN RE:
06/29/2010 DOCKET NUMBER 83

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clerks_web_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php

 

[Flossie JMO]

OT Can a mod contact me please? thanks, sorry for the OT

 

[B4igo2it]

Thank you Papa for Post #908

One would think DNA was used for paternity in this posted petition - wonder why it was taken again shortly after HaLeigh's disappearance.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1547135/haleigh_cummings_is_missing_dna_samples.html?cat=9
article states:
"Investigators in the Haleigh Cummings missing person / abduction case have collected DNA samples from several people involved in ongoing investigation. Among those who provided authorities with DNA samples, according to CNN, were Haleigh Cummings' father, Ronald Cummings, her mother, Crystal Sheffield, and Ronald Cummings' girlfriend, Misty Croslin." :waitasec:

 

[Concerned Papa]

This is just a random thought, certainly not meant to be anything more or less.

A few days ago I received a Google Alert with an article from Steve Brown ("I Solved The Case") about a conversation he had with Chelsea Croslin. In her latest version of the events surrounding the bus stop on 2/9, she said something that caught my eye.

Remember a year and a half ago when Lindsey, Tommy's wife, said this?

“Misty has never been a leader. She puts her foot in her mouth sometimes.”

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100207/articles/2071006?p=2&tc=pg

Apparently Chelsea felt the need to express an altogether different analysis of Misty's personality:

“Misty is leader, not a follower. She always has been.”

http://handcuffedtotheocean.com/?p=894

I don't know why she felt compelled to share this, but, like a lot of what Mz Chelsea has to say, I've got a problem buying into this. Misty just doesn't seem like a "take charge" kinda gal to me.

 

[titanfan62702]

This is just a random thought, certainly not meant to be anything more or less.

A few days ago I received a Google Alert with an article from Steve Brown ("I Solved The Case") about a conversation he had with Chelsea Croslin. In her latest version of the events surrounding the bus stop on 2/9, she said something that caught my eye.

Remember a year and a half ago when Lindsey, Tommy's wife, said this?



Apparently Chelsea felt the need to express an altogether different analysis of Misty's personality:



I don't know why she felt compelled to share this, but, like a lot of what Mz Chelsea has to say, I've got a problem buying into this. Misty just doesn't seem like a "take charge" kinda gal to me.

I remember one interview -- not sure which of the sister-in-laws it was. But I thought at the time -- if you're trying to help Misty, SHUT UP.

 

[lonetraveler]

Gah, it's been long ago but thought that information came from Crystal's fired lawyer who posted on other sites as well, only it was a wall not a door that Ron hit? Is that MSM link gone too? Hey lone! This has gone on too long with Haleigh missing. I wonder how scared whoever did it is knowing that maybe one day it would all be figured out. What a personal hell. Good.

Actually, Lt. Johnny Greenwood, spokesman for Putnam Co. Sheriff's Dept. talked about it in an interview with Art Harris:

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/11/haleigh-exclusive-bloody-hands-timeline-details/

(snipped)

""But we can report exclusively one minor mystery has been solved–why Ronald Cummings right fist appeared to be badly bruised after his daughter was reported missing at 3:27 am, Feb. 10. On the 911 tape, he sounds angry at Misty, and police tell me he was so upset his daughter was gone, he reared back and slammed his fist into a door.

“He was upset when he got home, and when he got angry, he punched a door and busted up his knuckles,” said Lt. Johnny Greenwood, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department in an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth, aka artharris.com.

Sources tell The Bald Truth that investigators saw Ron bleeding when they arrived that night, and immediately swabbed his hand (along with several other people who gave permission) for possible DNA to confirm his account, and state of mind.

In fact, Cummings pointed out the exact spot on the back door he’d hit hard enough to leave a hand print. As part of a thorough forensic exam of the trailer, police took blood samples from the door that matched blood from his wound, sources tell me, and ruled his account plausible and believable.

 

[christee]

OT Can a mod contact me please? thanks, sorry for the OT

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[Chablis]

This is just a random thought, certainly not meant to be anything more or less.

A few days ago I received a Google Alert with an article from Steve Brown ("I Solved The Case") about a conversation he had with Chelsea Croslin. In her latest version of the events surrounding the bus stop on 2/9, she said something that caught my eye.

Remember a year and a half ago when Lindsey, Tommy's wife, said this?



Apparently Chelsea felt the need to express an altogether different analysis of Misty's personality:



I don't know why she felt compelled to share this, but, like a lot of what Mz Chelsea has to say, I've got a problem buying into this. Misty just doesn't seem like a "take charge" kinda gal to me.

Lindsays a nurse, and Chelseas a stoner. Who to believe?

 

[Chablis]

Why in all of this the bricked door that couldnt have been unlocked from the outside but was "picked" said Ron lost? The basic facts have been lost. No one broke in, cops said so, but someone wanted people to believe that, and who would have that motive for that?

 

[Dr. Know?]

Thanks Lone, I'm just not an Art Harris fan but like I said, it's been a long time and there was a lot being reported behind the scene vs. wall and door. None of that matters anymore actually to me, what does is finding what happened to Haleigh and where she might be. Plus, finally working out the tangled web of lies to charge them in her disappearance.

 

[lonetraveler]

Thanks Lone, I'm just not an Art Harris fan but like I said, it's been a long time and there was a lot being reported behind the scene vs. wall and door. None of that matters anymore actually to me, what does is finding what happened to Haleigh and where she might be. Plus, finally working out the tangled web of lies to charge them in her disappearance.

I not a great fan either but I knew that I had read it as stated from LE somewhere and found this while googling today. My short memory recalled that someone in the Sheriff's dept had said it but I couldn't remember where I read it.

I just want the guilty party or parties arrested and Haleigh's remains found. I've always suspected that Ronald hit the door afterwards to account for his visible hand injuries.

 

[Emeralgem]

I not a great fan either but I knew that I had read it as stated from LE somewhere and found this while googling today. My short memory recalled that someone in the Sheriff's dept had said it but I couldn't remember where I read it.

I just want the guilty party or parties arrested and Haleigh's remains found. I've always suspected that Ronald hit the door afterwards to account for his visible hand injuries.

IIRC he told a someone who is a local (who used to post here) he hurt his hand when he hit the car. IIRC that poster was asking him about a dent in his car....JMHO

 

[titanfan62702]

Actually, Lt. Johnny Greenwood, spokesman for Putnam Co. Sheriff's Dept. talked about it in an interview with Art Harris:

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/11/haleigh-exclusive-bloody-hands-timeline-details/

(snipped)

""But we can report exclusively one minor mystery has been solved–why Ronald Cummings right fist appeared to be badly bruised after his daughter was reported missing at 3:27 am, Feb. 10. On the 911 tape, he sounds angry at Misty, and police tell me he was so upset his daughter was gone, he reared back and slammed his fist into a door.

“He was upset when he got home, and when he got angry, he punched a door and busted up his knuckles,” said Lt. Johnny Greenwood, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department in an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth, aka artharris.com.

Sources tell The Bald Truth that investigators saw Ron bleeding when they arrived that night, and immediately swabbed his hand (along with several other people who gave permission) for possible DNA to confirm his account, and state of mind.

In fact, Cummings pointed out the exact spot on the back door he’d hit hard enough to leave a hand print. As part of a thorough forensic exam of the trailer, police took blood samples from the door that matched blood from his wound, sources tell me, and ruled his account plausible and believable.

What they failled to point out was why he was really upset when he got home.