General theory thread and motives rehashed #6

[dodie20]

Tell me, why would RC, TN, and GGM Skykes all cover for Misty if they thought for a second she was responsible for killing HaLeigh? They wouldn't and neither would you if it had been your little girl. But if it had been one of them responsible for what happened to HaLeigh and they were afraid Misty might talk you're likely to see a different story which we've all seen. They bought enough time by RC marrying Misty and saving his hide from being charged with statutory rape to set the Croslins up to take the rap. Notice how they turned on Misty and her family after RC divorced Misty? All of a sudden, Misty and her family were trash and were the guilty party. How did TN get there so fast that night? Was that TN's red truck that was seen down by the railroad tracks? Why did TN call around looking for Misty to ask her if she would babysit the kids if in fact Misty was already with the kids? Sounds to me like TN was the one responsible for those kids that night. What was GGM Skyke's boyfriend's name and what roll did he play in all this? Could he be your A/C guy? WBG stated that Misty was at the hospital with her dad on Monday so what time did she get back and who brought her back? I thought TN was quoted as saying RC and Misty stayed up all night Sunday night talking? I don't believe that for a second. Why is it the neighbors didn't see or hear anything going on at RC's trailer until the wee hours of the morning when they heard and saw Misty screaming and crying and on her cell phone in the yard? Why did the cadavar dogs alert on the trash bin and why did a neighbor hear a vehicle there for twenty minutes. Didn't know it takes 20 minutes to dump trash. And why did RC lawyer up right away and refused to talk to LE? And why don't we know the hours RC worked? Why the big secret? In my honest opinion LE needs to apply pressure on the Cummings and not the Croslins because I don't think they know much because I feel they were setup by the Cummings. Everybody knows that the 911 call was staged and Misty didn't seem to have her facts straight but if she had actually been there she would have had them straight. Why would the Cummings stage the 911 call if they weren't involved? Sorry for the rant, but these are the facts that I base my opinions on. To this day, I don't believe Misty knows anything other than what the Cummings have told her and that only the Cummings know what happened to HaLeigh and where she is. The only reason I feel LE looks at Misty as key as they want to know if she was gone that night and if she was then I think LE pretty well knows what happened. JMO

Misty failed 3 polygraph questions, that we know of...who took Haleigh, where Haleigh was located, and if she herself was deliberately holding back information. So, Misty knows a lot that she isn't admitting to. MOO

 

[Chablis]

I think she knew him well enough to know what he would or wouldn't do. I think she lied for other reasons. MOO.

She was 16 when she met him, and knew him about 90 days, do you really think a young drug addicted teen really knows anyone, especially a 24 year old MAN?

 

[Chablis]

I'm not sure if this is to me. Anyway, I haven't seen them on Maury. If this is in fact what they were doing, then IMO they were probably playing the cover your butt game.

Ok, but that is still not the appropriate answer because Haleighs life isnt some game, there are lots of people who want this little girl home, who aren't her kin, and when people who have followed every second of this case, see her "Dad" and "Grandma" on Maury, feeding a completely inaccurate story, it throws up a lot of red flags. What is the acceptable thing they are covering their butt for in this situation? They should have been saying, cops say Misty is the KEY, and at the time of the Maury shennigans, Ron and Misty had announced their divorce, why in the heck would they not give the info cops were telling the public, and why would they not say, please if you saw this girl that night, please come forward? They pretend broke up because the heat got to hot on Ron for hanging out with her because even if that was his dumb intent to hang out with her to find the truth, there comes a time, like 7 months after the fact where it looks like you are in it for pleasure, and reason other than finding his daughter. They again pretended to break up yet were still sneaking around, dealing drugs, and she got his name tattooed on her AFTER the divorce. How anyone can say shes not covering for him when all the evidence shows otherwise is beyond me.

jmo

 

[Lanie]

To think Misty was terrified of RC's reaction, seems a little ridiculous. IMO, Misty had RC wrapped around her finger, and he was the least of her worries. I'm not sure she told him anything more than she slept through the whole thing. Why do people think RC would kill the perp? He barely looked for Haleigh, much less went after her abductor. He hung out with Misty, married her, harbored her, and hindered the investigation, and obstructed justice, IMO. IMO, Misty was his number 1 priority. But, does all this mean RC is covering for Misty being a murderer? No. There's a good chance, IMO, that he knows enough to know she was involved somehow, but wasn't the actual murderer....but I do believe most of RC's behavior was motivated by protecting his own name and keeping Misty from being found out. Also, this is something else I've considered...Misty killed Haleigh, and Ron felt responsible for dumping his kids in that situation, so he forgave her. All MOO, and just a couple of theories.

IMO, Ron is an abusive man with a bad temper, so that's why I think Misty would have been worried about what he would do to her. I also know how unpopular this theory is, but I also believe Ron DID love Haleigh.

I don't know if Casey Anthony ever loved Caylee, or if she's even capable of loving anyone. My guess would be no to both. Ron doesn't strike me as the same kind of person as FCA, though. I think he loved Haleigh, his grandmother, his grandfather, probably even his mother. I'm open to the possibility he was even in love with Misty.

Does this make him a good father? Not in my opinion. I believe there are a lot of factors involved in being a good parent, and IMO Ron was missing a lot of them.

So, yes, I believe if Misty killed Haleigh, she did have Ron's wrath to worry about. If Misty told Ron someone took Haleigh, it also explains why he didn't frantically search for her when he got home.

 

[Lanie]

Ok, but that is still not the appropriate answer because Haleighs life isnt some game, there are lots of people who want this little girl home, who aren't her kin, and when people who have followed every second of this case, see her "Dad" and "Grandma" on Maury, feeding a completely inaccurate story, it throws up a lot of red flags. What is the acceptable thing they are covering their butt for in this situation? They should have been saying, cops say Misty is the KEY, and at the time of the Maury shennigans, Ron and Misty had announced their divorce, why in the heck would they not give the info cops were telling the public, and why would they not say, please if you saw this girl that night, please come forward? They pretend broke up because the heat got to hot on Ron for hanging out with her because even if that was his dumb intent to hang out with her to find the truth, there comes a time, like 7 months after the fact where it looks like you are in it for pleasure, and reason other than finding his daughter. They again pretended to break up yet were still sneaking around, dealing drugs, and she got his name tattooed on her AFTER the divorce. How anyone can say shes not covering for him when all the evidence shows otherwise is beyond me.

jmo

BBM
What does that even mean?

You seem to be implying Ron was covering something up on this show, is that not correct? I'm agreeing with you. I am not agreeing with you that I find Ron doing any covering up of anything when his daughter is at stake in any way 'acceptable', though. I can't think how you have gotten that impression from anything I've said, but think what you will.

 

[Oldsoul2]

IMO we still have to consider the fact that misty was dealing drugs so for her to have to lie about the fact of whether she was actually there that night or not is relevant. There are not exactly the best quality of people that could have gotten ratted on if she told the whole truth about that night. I think she lied and failed the polygraph, not because she knew what happened to haleigh, I think it's because she was trying to cover what she was doing during that time which would have been a crime in itself involving other people. IMO I don't think she was there when this happened, I think she told LE she was so they wouldn't go digging and that started a snowball effect. I believe jr saw what he saw period but I also believe that the person who took haleigh knew ron or misty or both prior and this whole group have gigantuan skeletons of lies upon lies to cover other lies etc...... which now leads to this and the public believing that ron or misty actually participated. I think their lifestyles caused this, I don't think they did it.

 

[Lanie]

IMO we still have to consider the fact that misty was dealing drugs so for her to have to lie about the fact of whether she was actually there that night or not is relevant. There are not exactly the best quality of people that could have gotten ratted on if she told the whole truth about that night. I think she lied and failed the polygraph, not because she knew what happened to haleigh, I think it's because she was trying to cover what she was doing during that time which would have been a crime in itself involving other people. IMO I don't think she was there when this happened, I think she told LE she was so they wouldn't go digging and that started a snowball effect. I believe jr saw what he saw period but I also believe that the person who took haleigh knew ron or misty or both prior and this whole group have gigantuan skeletons of lies upon lies to cover other lies etc...... which now leads to this and the public believing that ron or misty actually participated. I think their lifestyles caused this, I don't think they did it.

Here's why this doesn't work for me. If Misty was the one and only one who was supposed to be with the kids, her not being there makes her guilty of child endangerment at best. If she was not the one watching the kids, and she wasn't there, then even if she was off dealing drugs, she does not have to tell LE that. She could easily say, "so and so was watching the kids, and I left to hang out with friends." Anyone who saw her that night could say the same thing, 'we were hanging out.' This then puts the spotlight on whoever WAS watching the kids.

Yet Misty puts herself as the only caretaker with the children when Haleigh went missing.

 

[lonetraveler]

I take a short break from this thread and people start posting again. I hope that we see some action on this case by LE. It is high time that this case is solved and Haleigh's mother gets her daughter's remains back so that she can be laid to rest.

 

[dodie20]

Here's why this doesn't work for me. If Misty was the one and only one who was supposed to be with the kids, her not being there makes her guilty of child endangerment at best. If she was not the one watching the kids, and she wasn't there, then even if she was off dealing drugs, she does not have to tell LE that. She could easily say, "so and so was watching the kids, and I left to hang out with friends." Anyone who saw her that night could say the same thing, 'we were hanging out.' This then puts the spotlight on whoever WAS watching the kids.

Yet Misty puts herself as the only caretaker with the children when Haleigh went missing.

If she and RC both knew the kids were alone, (which is what I believe), then it's a different story. When this 1st happened, a lot of people thought Haleigh would come home safely, so I can see the motivation to lie, sort of. Why admit you were negligent and run the risk of losing custody? just say you were asleep and at work. But, RC calling Tommy and asking if Misty was with him, points, IMO, to him knowing she wasn't at the trailer. Where did he think the kids were? But, here's a contradiction...Tommy said RC asked him to check the trailer. RC said he did no such thing. If RC really believed Misty was at home all night, why was he looking for her? And if he really thought she was at the trailer, why didn't he ask Tommy to go by and check? And he was adamant that he did not..,but he and his family and Misty were just as adamant that she was home all night. None of this jibes. MOO. ...

 

[Oldsoul2]

Here's why this doesn't work for me. If Misty was the one and only one who was supposed to be with the kids, her not being there makes her guilty of child endangerment at best. If she was not the one watching the kids, and she wasn't there, then even if she was off dealing drugs, she does not have to tell LE that. She could easily say, "so and so was watching the kids, and I left to hang out with friends." Anyone who saw her that night could say the same thing, 'we were hanging out.' This then puts the spotlight on whoever WAS watching the kids.

Yet Misty puts herself as the only caretaker with the children when Haleigh went missing.

You can't just tell LE you were hanging out during an abduction of a child you were supposed to be watching and think they will not check out what you're saying, interview your alibis or ask questions nor would the people she was with participate nor for all we know protect her. What she was really doing was obviously a problem IMO. I can not believe someone could open a door, walk into a trailer, walk through while she's sleeping and she didn't hear them. Not buying it even if she was high as a kite. She lied about being there to not be charged for negligence and to cover something else knowing that she wasn't directly responsible nor knew who took haleigh. She's sitting in prison and been given plea bargains, offers to lessen her sentences and for all we know completely walk and she is still saying she doesn't know what happened. I don't think she does.

 

[Chablis]

IF she left the house, she didn't take her phone because it obviously didnt ping anywhere other than the home, or you would think the LE would know and could say for sure she left the house that night.

 

[Emeralgem]

If she and RC both knew the kids were alone, (which is what I believe), then it's a different story. When this 1st happened, a lot of people thought Haleigh would come home safely, so I can see the motivation to lie, sort of. Why admit you were negligent and run the risk of losing custody? just say you were asleep and at work. But, RC calling Tommy and asking if Misty was with him, points, IMO, to him knowing she wasn't at the trailer. Where did he think the kids were? But, here's a contradiction...Tommy said RC asked him to check the trailer. RC said he did no such thing. If RC really believed Misty was at home all night, why was he looking for her? And if he really thought she was at the trailer, why didn't he ask Tommy to go by and check? And he was adamant that he did not..,but he and his family and Misty were just as adamant that she was home all night. None of this jibes. MOO. ...

Ever think the Cummings/Neves Sykes Clan was adamant about her being home because they didn't want the Croslins to know they had set them up to take the fall for Ronald Cummings...Bottom line when you think it through you realize the actions of Cummings/Neves Sykes Clan had a two fold mission that night... Cover Ron's rear end and set up the Croslins to take the fall w/o the Croslns ever realizing they were being set up....JMHO

 

[Emeralgem]

IF she left the house, she didn't take her phone because it obviously didnt ping anywhere other than the home, or you would think the LE would know and could say for sure she left the house that night.

To my knowledge PCSO and LE have never released any information concerning Misty's phone pings or where her phone was that night...Only information I recall hearinng is there was a big fight over the phone at around 8:30 pm that night and after that her phone was turned off....JMHO

 

[lonetraveler]

Personally I think that Ronald left the children locked inside the mobile home that night before taking off. He, himself repeatedly stated that he knew for certain that the doors were locked because he locked the deadbolts himself. (What????? Why would he lock the deadbolts and leave the mobile home if Misty were there????) :what: There is absolutely no reason to lock children inside unless they were alone. Following are some things that I do believe happened, these things are JMO.
- I don't think this is the first time that Ronald had locked the children inside.
-I don't think that he and Misty had gotten back together by Monday night either. Annette Sykes also stated that she was angry that Misty had left Ronald without someone to watch the children.
-If Teresa Neves called her mother to get her to go over to the mobile home to check on the children, IMO, it was because she knew that Ronald had left them alone.
-I also think that Ronald gave Haleigh something to put her to sleep so that she would not raise a fuss about him leaving her alone in the mobile home at night. He most likely thought that she would just go to sleep and stay that way all night.
-It is also very possible that Annette Sykes brought Hope with her to the home that night to stay with the children. I feel confident that Annette Sykes had a key to the mobile home. She may have found an overdosed Haleigh.
-I do think that it was Teresa Neves red truck that someone spotted near the railroad tracks that night.
-I do think that Ronald left work that night as soon as it was discovered that Haleigh had died from an overdose.
-I do believe that Ronald called Teresa immediately, panicking about what to do and I believe that she came to his aid.
-I do believe that Tommy was called and promised drugs in payment to help in a cleanup. In turn, he called Timmy/Chelsea to bring the van over to pick him up to go over to Ronald's mobile home. I think that is why Tommy stated that he was totally stoned on Xanax. I think it was drugs and guns that were taken from the mobile home so that LE would not find them.
-I do not believe that Ronald and his mother entrusted Haleigh's body to the Croslins to dispose of.
-I do believe that Misty was located and brought to the mobile home and enlisted/coerced into helping out with the coverup so that 911 could be called.
-I do believe that the Croslins were set up to take the fall.

So far there has been nothing to change my mind about the items listed above but I'm willing to entertain other theories.

 

[FL Convict]

Don't forget Ron could be telling the truth in that it was some goons who took her because he owed money. It's plausible, but idk how plausible.

 

[Emeralgem]

Don't forget Ron could be telling the truth in that it was some goons who took her because he owed money. It's plausible, but idk how plausible.

Just curious...And when did he make this statement?

 

[Lanie]

If she and RC both knew the kids were alone, (which is what I believe), then it's a different story. When this 1st happened, a lot of people thought Haleigh would come home safely, so I can see the motivation to lie, sort of. Why admit you were negligent and run the risk of losing custody? just say you were asleep and at work. But, RC calling Tommy and asking if Misty was with him, points, IMO, to him knowing she wasn't at the trailer. Where did he think the kids were? But, here's a contradiction...Tommy said RC asked him to check the trailer. RC said he did no such thing. If RC really believed Misty was at home all night, why was he looking for her? And if he really thought she was at the trailer, why didn't he ask Tommy to go by and check? And he was adamant that he did not..,but he and his family and Misty were just as adamant that she was home all night. None of this jibes. MOO. ...

It seems that Tommy and Misty spent time together, and Tommy even admits at some point he was at the trailer, so IMO, when Ron couldn't reach Misty on her cell phone, he called Tommy on his cell phone and asked him if he was with Misty. I don't feel it's unreasonable Ron thought Tommy might be at the trailer with Misty. Also, considering everything that went on in the days leading up to this day, I also don't think it's unreasonable Ron might have thought, when he couldn't reach Misty, maybe she HAD bailed and left the kids alone, and asked Tommy to go check.

IMO, not every single thing Ron and Misty said and did even on the day Haleigh disappeared had to do with Haleigh. Maybe Ron just went to work that day because it was his job and that's where his paycheck came from to pay his bills, and it has nothing to do with setting an alibi up. Maybe Ron was afraid Misty was going to leave while he was at work, and maybe he has some control issues and so he called her 900 times, and when she didn't answer he started calling other people to find out why. I know people who have relationships just like this and no missing children at all.

BBM

With so many people saying Misty was there watching the children, including Misty herself, I'm going to go with Misty was there watching the children.

 

[titanfan62702]

After seeing what happened in WA yesterday, does Junior get supervised visits with his father? If so, who supervises them?

 

[dodie20]

Personally I think that Ronald left the children locked inside the mobile home that night before taking off. He, himself repeatedly stated that he knew for certain that the doors were locked because he locked the deadbolts himself. (What????? Why would he lock the deadbolts and leave the mobile home if Misty were there????) :what: There is absolutely no reason to lock children inside unless they were alone. Following are some things that I do believe happened, these things are JMO.
- I don't think this is the first time that Ronald had locked the children inside.
-I don't think that he and Misty had gotten back together by Monday night either. Annette Sykes also stated that she was angry that Misty had left Ronald without someone to watch the children.
-If Teresa Neves called her mother to get her to go over to the mobile home to check on the children, IMO, it was because she knew that Ronald had left them alone.
-I also think that Ronald gave Haleigh something to put her to sleep so that she would not raise a fuss about him leaving her alone in the mobile home at night. He most likely thought that she would just go to sleep and stay that way all night.
-It is also very possible that Annette Sykes brought Hope with her to the home that night to stay with the children. I feel confident that Annette Sykes had a key to the mobile home. She may have found an overdosed Haleigh.
-I do think that it was Teresa Neves red truck that someone spotted near the railroad tracks that night.
-I do think that Ronald left work that night as soon as it was discovered that Haleigh had died from an overdose.
-I do believe that Ronald called Teresa immediately, panicking about what to do and I believe that she came to his aid.
-I do believe that Tommy was called and promised drugs in payment to help in a cleanup. In turn, he called Timmy/Chelsea to bring the van over to pick him up to go over to Ronald's mobile home. I think that is why Tommy stated that he was totally stoned on Xanax. I think it was drugs and guns that were taken from the mobile home so that LE would not find them.
-I do not believe that Ronald and his mother entrusted Haleigh's body to the Croslins to dispose of.
-I do believe that Misty was located and brought to the mobile home and enlisted/coerced into helping out with the coverup so that 911 could be called.
-I do believe that the Croslins were set up to take the fall.

So far there has been nothing to change my mind about the items listed above but I'm willing to entertain other theories.

Well, one thing's for sure...if RC left the kids alone, that would explain how he remembered for sure, he didn't ask Tommy to check the trailer. If the kids were alone, and Misty wasn't there, there would have been no reason for RC to send him. He said he asked if Misty was with him, and that's what I believe. I would like to know what RC and Misty argued about on the phone, and where she pinged from. She could have been at the trailer, and told him she was fixing to leave, I guess, but IMO, either way, he Knew the kids were alone. On the 911, when the lock was brought up, I heard Misty ask him, 'Did you lock that door?' Now, why would she ask him that? And if she said it to cover her butt somehow, and for the operator's benefit, wouldn't RC have been suspicious enough, to confront her? IMO, she asked him, because she didn't know...whatever that means. MOO

 

[dodie20]

After seeing what happened in WA yesterday, does Junior get supervised visits with his father? If so, who supervises them?

I would guess, (hope), all of RC's visits are supervised, by armed guards.