George & Cindy's Response to "NO DEATH PENALTY" Decision

[Amster]

If KC was a male....the DP would never be in question. The day the GJ returned the murder indictment is when the DA would have announced he was going for it.

Cindy and George have been coddled and protected from the beginning. Taking the DP off the table was done for them....IMO. They've lied and tampered with evidence and who know what else since KC was first jailed. The second that they knew KC was to be blamed, Caylee became the "problem".

George has admitted that he smelled death in the car. Hearing him greet KC, "Hi beautiful", on the tapes, sealed it for me. And Cindy, telling KC how GOOD a mother she was to Caylee.....:furious:

 

[FloridaKatz]

What is so sad is that no one in this family has memorialized this baby and let her rest in peace. GA is an ex cop, he knows there was a dead body in the back of the car. CA is a nurse, she knows there was a dead body in the back of that car. If it wasn't Caylee, who in the heck do they think it was ? THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO IT WAS.

I believe there is some level of involvement in this baby's death by every A in that immediate family, and they are each in CYA mode. LA is keeping his distance, KC in jail...it's "divide and conquer".

 

[cyberborg]

[snip]
My belief that it is unlikely that Casey was wearing those pants when she disposed of Caylee's body comes from knowing that she was wearing the pants 3 days prior to that, on the day Caylee was killed. Why would Casey put on already worn dress pants to dispose of a body?

Because they were already tainted and rather than taint other clothes she used them as the ones to do dirty deeds, i.e., dispose of Caylee?

After all, she did leave them in the car to get rid of once her work was done.

Maybe KC did have the smarts enough not to taint too many clothes with decomposition.

Interesting thing is, why were they still in the car? Was the body also?

 

[TURBOTHINK]

IF George was correct in saying she was wearing those pants when she left at 12:50 and IF she had not changed later in the day before she killed Caylee and IF she somehow got evidence on her clothing, then yes, I agree, there COULD have been evidence on those pants. I wonder, if that's the case, why did didn't throw them away.

Maybe she did and put out another pair which she claimed to have washed.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

My understanding is that she washed the pants before she located Casey and learned that Caylee was missing.

You don't think if you smelled a car which smelled like a "damn dead body" that you would have left it intact until the police were called?

How did they know it was NOT KC dead with all she had one in the past? They KNEW it was Caylee or they would not have gone in search of KC and would have called LE immediately.

That is where the cover up started and it has gone on until this day.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't care what pants they were - grey slacks or clown tights..... Cindy washed them ASAP and surely knew what she was doing. Who has the presence of mind during such a time to do that?

911: "My grandaughter's missing!!! Someone took her. I have to find her! BRB - i gotta throw some slacks in the dryer.... K I'm back. My grandaughter's missing!"

LOL Exactly!!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

My understanding is that she washed the pants before she located Casey and learned that Caylee was missing.

I don't think we know when she washed the pants. However, she knew the car smelled of decomp as did the pants. If she did wash them before she found Casey...then it tells me she DID know Casey was fine and Caylee was already gone at that point.

 

[shoelace]

We all know that Cindy wears the pants in their family! However, they ALL could be responsible for Caylee's death and disappearance, imo.

if you really think that they are all involved, why would ANY of them say anything at all about the smell of decomposition? you say cindy slipped... okay fine. but in george's interviews he qualifies what this smell is by stating that he was A HOMICIDE DETECTIVE. who would know better? if he was hiding something he would say, "that car smelled like sh*t!" not, "i know what that is and i don't like it... just being honest. please not my little caylee (paraphrased)."

c'mon... you really think that this guy had something to do with it so now he's testifying against himself with expert qualifications? makes NO sense.

i know it makes the case juicier with all the added players, but only casey knows what's up and she's not talking.

p.s.
on a related note, refusing to take a lie detector does NOT make you guilty. i wouldn't take one. there's false positives on those all the time and everybody knows it.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I think they are looking for another person to explain the decomp being there. They are going to turn it onto either it was another person's body or someone else killed Caylee then put her in that trunk while it was sitting at the tow yard or amscot.

 

[jandkmom]

You don't think if you smelled a car which smelled like a "damn dead body" that you would have left it intact until the police were called?

How did they know it was NOT KC dead with all she had one in the past? They KNEW it was Caylee or they would not have gone in search of KC and would have called LE immediately.

That is where the cover up started and it has gone on until this day.

Yes. If they thought a stranger had killed either of them and hid them in the trunk until the disposed of the body, they would have called the police immediately. They new something bad had happened and that KC was involved. IMO

 

[elementary]

I found this from you on another thread:

If you read the document on physical evidence, it is, indeed, a big deal. Page 43 of the 10th part.

Monday, July 21/08, collected by Yuri Melich, by Court Order:

Please direct me to the "10th" part.

My belief that it is unlikely that Casey was wearing those pants when she disposed of Caylee's body comes from knowing that she was wearing the pants 3 days prior to that, on the day Caylee was killed. Why would Casey put on already worn dress pants to dispose of a body?

The 10th section (or batch) of the document dump.

 

[jennyb]

Cindy said the car smelled like a DEAD BODY. And then she said the pants smelled like THE CAR. Therefore the pants smelled like a DEAD BODY too. You don't wash or touch anything in those circumstances! Nothing!

Also, if KC fled after the fight that's one thing. If Cindy kicked her out, thereby kicking out a 2 YEAR OLD BABY with no place to go, then that's negligence at its finest. I'd like to know which it is, because if it's the latter then she should be charged with essentially throwing out a baby to fend for itself because she knew KC was a WASTE of a human being and a mother.

 

[cfromcanada]

How is the defense going to bring up ANYBODY? For an alternate story that has already been given they would need something to substantiate it and there are no witnessess and KC sure isn't going to testify. How do they implicate anyone else?

 

[jennyb]

Talk about obstruction... I recall the first interview with GVS when Cindy was asked point blank if KC had any psychological problems and Cindy said absolutely not. Then Cindy said KC and Caylee had just gone away together for "bonding time". Is that not a huge set of lies????

Oh yeah, and then Cindy told GVS if she asked any more pointed questions she would keel over or something like that.

That's what got me hooked on this case. It was the craziest most off-putting interview of a grieving person ever. Grrrrr.

 

[Lanie]

When LE arrived at the home to investigate Casey...they would have noticed all the child's things. What were they going to say? It would have raised red flags and LE would have investigated where she was.

They could have said she was at her father's. It's not like they have shown any qualms about telling 'mistruths'. LE would not have looked into it further under normal circumstances. This, however, was anything but normal, the car smelled like a dead body, and Cindy was well aware of it before she EVER called 911. She is the one who brings up Caylee being missing, before LE ever showed up. She called 911 3 times. I don't remember the time frame between the first and last calls, but it was more than a few minutes, which would be enough time to calm down and realize she played a part in killing a 2 year old, so the last people she wants at her house smelling the death car is LE. She could have called them back and said she and her daughter were working it out, so sorry to have bothered them. Cindy herself claims the only reason she said car smelled like dead body was to get the police over there, so apparently LE wasn't in any big rush after call 1 and 2.
Even if you throw in George as being in the dark, well, he didn't seem to have any problem dropping off the death car and heading to work, so all she had to do was clean out the car, then tell him she found a dead squirrel who had apparently choked to death on rotten pizza (sorry, couldn't help myself) and he would have been all over it, no more questions asked. We are all pretty up on how unwilling he is to pursue even the most ridiculous of stories if Cindy tells him she will take care of it.
Lanie

 

[Lanie]

I agree. I don't understand why this is even an issue, because acquiescing to the idea that a grandmother who was the main caretaker was indifferent to caring about who babysat her granddaughter flies in the face of common sense and normal human behaviour. Given Cindy's controlling nature, it makes that idea even crazier.

Unless someone wants to posit that Cindy just didn't give a damn.

And to build upon your theory, if indeed she rationalised the lie, then Caylee was never really Cindy's first priority, was she?

Cindy covers for Casey, it's what she does. It seems most of us agree Cindy and George take enabling to a whole new level, and were doing this long before Caylee was murdered.
The topic of Cindy being the first to hold Caylee and Casey's resentment over it have been brought up time and again.
I don't think it is a big stretch, considering what I have seen of this family's dynamics, for Cindy to ask Casey for info on the nanny, getting stalled, and if she pushes, little ms. princess perp throwing a hissy fit, throwing up how Cindy held Caylee first, how she is trying to take over, etc. etc., whereupon Cindy, being the martyred co-dependent soul she is, would drop it.
Lanie

 

[EasyGruuvin]

I really hope she will be found guilty,she will spill the beans then,she will tell LE where Caylee is,the whining spoiled princess KNOWS she won't handle life in prison.Look at all the videos.She doesn't care about Caylee or anyone else,she just wants out and is begging her folks to solve the problem.

She will tell us where Caylee is,just not yet.


IMO

I doubt she will ever tell anything, it is a re-play of SP and the P.s...denial , denial , denial ...

 

[robotdog]

Talk about obstruction... I recall the first interview with GVS when Cindy was asked point blank if KC had any psychological problems and Cindy said absolutely not. Then Cindy said KC and Caylee had just gone away together for "bonding time". Is that not a huge set of lies????

Oh yeah, and then Cindy told GVS if she asked any more pointed questions she would keel over or something like that.

That's what got me hooked on this case. It was the craziest most off-putting interview of a grieving person ever. Grrrrr.

its what i call a SHAM


from the get go

 

[Lanie]

I don't care what pants they were - grey slacks or clown tights..... Cindy washed them ASAP and surely knew what she was doing. Who has the presence of mind during such a time to do that?

911: "My grandaughter's missing!!! Someone took her. I have to find her! BRB - i gotta throw some slacks in the dryer.... K I'm back. My grandaughter's missing!"

I agree, this sounds stupid, however, IIRC, it has been confirmed George dropped off the death car and then went on his merry way to work. I have also heard rumors Cindy went back to work.
Lanie

 

[Jolynna]

Cindy covers for Casey, it's what she does. It seems most of us agree Cindy and George take enabling to a whole new level, and were doing this long before Caylee was murdered.
The topic of Cindy being the first to hold Caylee and Casey's resentment over it have been brought up time and again.
I don't think it is a big stretch, considering what I have seen of this family's dynamics, for Cindy to ask Casey for info on the nanny, getting stalled, and if she pushes, little ms. princess perp throwing a hissy fit, throwing up how Cindy held Caylee first, how she is trying to take over, etc. etc., whereupon Cindy, being the martyred co-dependent soul she is, would drop it.
Lanie

I agree with every word of this post.