George has Casey's car destroyed

[Dignity4Victims]

No doubt he's highly educated. But if he would have wanted it, all he had to do was shoot the A's an email or a letter and try.
All that could happen was they may say no.

IMO we can't fault the A's for not sending a car to someone if they didn't even know he may or may not be interested in having it.

I think crushing the car was a huge step for the A's.

BBM - Tim Miller: "Anyone who gets involved with the Anthonys gets body-slammed."

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Also, there are still those canisters with the air in them right? The jury didn't open them did they?
Maybe that will be saved for future evidence?

IMO that would be much more valuable evidence to do future testing on than a car that has been sitting somewhere for years.

The car being crushed is a GREAT thing IMO.

The horrible tragedy that happened in that car is way more than enough for me to want it gone forever.

 

[vlpate]

IMO there is some weight to the theory that destroying the car was, in some sense, destroying evidence that may prove fertile in the future. Especially considering Dr Vass' ongoing studies.

I doubt that when evidence was saved 20 years ago was specifically saved because anyone knew DNA testing would ever help define innocence or guilt.

You only have to have heard today's news of the Memphis III to understand this.

The evidence was taken out of the car. Casey won't be tried again for the murder or anything related to it, criminally - had she been convicted I doubt the A's would have gotten the car back so quickly due to appeals - otherwise, it's useless. LE does not keep all cars they investigate, they take what they need from them and they're done with them. LE lost the carpet from Otis O'Toole's car, not his car...just as an example.

The Memphis III were in prison - and there were appeals. Totally different. I meant to read more about this case today, not really familiar other than the recent turn of events.

 

[lauriej]

I agree 100% with this. I do think that if they were doing 'image rehab' they would have taken a sledgehammer to the pool. More questions though: Wonder if it was the same tow yard that it was originally towed to? Of course, does it still stink?? Someone's gotta let that slip...

From what I've seen of Dr Phil he's very straight to the point, no BS and isn't easily deceived. I will be surprised if he is sympathetic to George and Cindy.
:twocents:

..no----it was originally towed from amscot to johnson's towyard/narcoossee road---a storage facility/impound lot.

..this time it was towed to an auto salvage/recycling/scrap yard, in pine hills, orange county.

..bob kealing (WESH) was asked the "does it still stink"?? question since he was there..

..his response---"hard to tell in the middle of a junkyard".

( i would respond to the dr.phil comment---but that discussion has been sent to the parking lot..)

 

[dog.gone.cute]

No doubt he's highly educated. But if he would have wanted it, all he had to do was shoot the A's an email or a letter and try.
All that could happen was they may say no.

IMO we can't fault the A's for not sending a car to someone if they didn't even know he may or may not be interested in having it.

I think crushing the car was a huge step for the A's.

LE said the Anthony's could come get the car ... the trial was over ... the "Title" was in their name -- not the "felon's" name ...

The Anthony's had OPTIONS ... Destroy ... Keep ... Sell ... others ...

I just thought it should have been SAVED for FUTURE FORENSIC STUDIES ... In My Opinion, that would have been the most LOGICAL THING TO DO ...

It's a shame that LE didn't think of that -- or asked the State -- LE was just probably following NORMAL PROCEDURE and contacted the A's to come pick up the "evidence" ...

Now that I am wondering about the car ... maybe it wasn't such a good idea for LE to RELEASE the car so soon ? MOO ...

Dr. Vass was the STATE'S witness ... Dr. V did all the STUDIES on the DECOMP ... If the car would have helped Dr. V with FUTURE SCIENTIFIC STUDIES, it's too bad it wasn't turned over to him ...

I just wish someone in LE or the SA's office would have TRIED TO KEEP THE CAR LONGER ...

NO telling what SCIENCE will be in 5-10 Years from now ...

MOO MOO MOO ...

 

[dog.gone.cute]

isn't the spare tire cover in evidence, separate entirely from the car? i think we saw it pulled out during trial.

:waitasec: I think it was pulled out ... something else was pulled out, IIRC ? Was it the trunk lining ?

:waitasec:

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Do they destroy all the evidence they have for the case?
I mean, the car was a key piece of evidence and they released it because they were done with it.
That makes me wonder what will happen to all the other stuff.

Like the carpet from the car, the canisters of air, the "trash" from the trunk, etc....

anybody know?

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

The evidence was taken out of the car. Casey won't be tried again for the murder or anything related to it, criminally - had she been convicted I doubt the A's would have gotten the car back so quickly due to appeals - otherwise, it's useless. LE does not keep all cars they investigate, they take what they need from them and they're done with them. LE lost the carpet from Otis O'Toole's car, not his car...just as an example.

The Memphis III were in prison - and there were appeals. Totally different. I meant to read more about this case today, not really familiar other than the recent turn of events.

My point was that the evaluation of evidence is continually ongoing. There is no way for anyone to know what information that vehicle might have held insofar as how rapidly the scientific forensics field is growing.

I never suggested that LE should keep all cars that they investigate. I stand by my opinion that we will never know what else the car might have had to reveal in this particular case.

Re my bolded from your post, of course the state can't appeal. I didn't suggest it was an appealable issue. The mere fact that something is not appealable does not make it correct.

 

[vlpate]

Do they destroy all the evidence they have for the case?
I mean, the car was a key piece of evidence and they released it because they were done with it.
That makes me wonder what will happen to all the other stuff.

Like the carpet from the car, the canisters of air, the "trash" from the trunk, etc....

anybody know?

Hi Kimberly - not sure what they kept...probably what was presented as evidence in court.

 

[Well Done 99]

isn't the spare tire cover in evidence, separate entirely from the car? i think we saw it pulled out during trial.

 

[vlpate]

Re my bolded from your post, of course the state can't appeal. I didn't suggest it was an appealable issue. The mere fact that something is not appealable does not make it correct.

Huh? I was making a statement about evidence that is kept when there are appeals, as in the Memphis III case....not sure where "the state can't appeal" came from.

I'm completely lost "the mere fact that something is not appealable does not make it correct".

Not one word of my post was meant to offend you, sorry you took it that way.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

Hi Kimberly - not sure what they kept...probably what was presented as evidence in court.

It is my personal experience that all evidence is returned to the owner. Whether the evidence is painful or not.

Here's what I found on FL's law:

"Florida Statute 705.105 states that evidence becomes the property of the seizing law enforcement agency if the owner does not claim it within 60 days of the conclusion of the proceeding."

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Content...1155/00-04--Return-of-Unclaimed-Evidence.aspx

You might find more with searches but this supports what I have experienced. I don't think it is peculiar to this state as my history with this lies in CO.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

So, whatever has not been picked up by now becomes the property of LE?
Wonder if they file it away or throw it away.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Huh? I was making a statement about evidence that is kept when there are appeals, as in the Memphis III case....not sure where "the state can't appeal" came from.

I'm completely lost "the mere fact that something is not appealable does not make it correct".

Not one word of my post was meant to offend you, sorry you took it that way.

I understand what you are saying.

Casey was found not guilty, she can not be tried again, so the evidence is useless for future testing.

The WMIII case, the 3 men were found guilty. Appeals and chances for new trials can go on for years, the evidence will most likely be needed again.

 

[vlpate]

It is my personal experience that all evidence is returned to the owner. Whether the evidence is painful or not.

Here's what I found on FL's law:

"Florida Statute 705.105 states that evidence becomes the property of the seizing law enforcement agency if the owner does not claim it within 60 days of the conclusion of the proceeding."

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Content...1155/00-04--Return-of-Unclaimed-Evidence.aspx

You might find more with searches but this supports what I have experienced. I don't think it is peculiar to this state as my history with this lies in CO.

Well, there you go...all cleared up. Better the A's take the car than have it sold at a police auction.

 

[vlpate]

I understand what you are saying.

Casey was found not guilty, she can not be tried again, so the evidence is useless for future testing.

The WMIII case, the 3 men were found guilty. Appeals and chances for new trials can go on for years, the evidence will most likely be needed again.

Yes, thank you... that's exactly what I meant.

 

[cyberborg]

So will Casey pay Lee the money she still owes him for the car?

I think the only person that someone will reimburse on FCA's behalf will be Amy -- because someone paid that money back. Maybe the IRS will get their taxes owed. As to everyone else, don't hold your breath IMO FCA will leave a long line of creditors that include CA and Caylee's piggy bank but she has moved into the big time now with law suits into the thousands and hundreds thousands $$$'s.

FCA will be a life long debtor who lives life as an indigent unable to pay her bills and supported by a trust, foundation or, benefactor ... Like Uncle Cheney or Sugar Daddy Baez who handle her income.

FCA is a career debtor and LA can kiss any money goodbye unless you count scrap value, get in line like everyone else.

 

[vlpate]

Sorry your forgetting something "Evil happens when a few good men do nothing". Cindy and George were responsible for their grand daughter's safety and well bing as well, especially if and since they knew Caysey was dangerous and a pathological liar. Dont ever believe for a second their stance that they didnt know wha Casey Anthony was capable of. George especially, he knew what his daughter was capable of. Isnt that why he DIDNT call police over the smell in the car and DID call police over the gas cans?

Cindy and George were not responsible for their grand-daughter's safety, but they sure as heck TOOK responsibility and tried to keep her close in spite of the bills they paid for two extra mouths to feed, clothe, house, and likely clean up after. They did it because they loved Caylee and wanted her where they could keep an eye on her. What they couldn't do is stop Casey from taking her away from them because Caylee was NOT their child....not their child or technically, their responsibility. EVIL is expected in court next week.

Of course they knew she was a pathological liar - does that equate to thinking she was a killer? Hardly.

They knew she was dangerous?

 

[RR0004]

Specific source?

Not that this is on topic, but I think that poll CM quoted pretty much can be interpreted that people didn't buy the story, but maybe I'm wrong.

 

[rotterdam]

Do they destroy all the evidence they have for the case?
I mean, the car was a key piece of evidence and they released it because they were done with it.
That makes me wonder what will happen to all the other stuff.

Like the carpet from the car, the canisters of air, the "trash" from the trunk, etc....

anybody know?

The Anthonys requested all the evidence back. Not just the car.

http://www.wesh.com/r/28612479/detail.html