George/Lexus & Casey's Contact Pattern

The close proximity/timing of the end of Casey's call w/ Tony and the incoming call to G&C's from Lexus has me intrigued.

...one rub to work out is the 10:07PM call Casey placed to Lexus on 7/2. Tony was still in NY on 7/2. Full Sail was on break. Otherwise, the calls stopped 6/25.

The previous 7/2 call was to Patrick @ 10:06PM. Casey was *motivated* to reach Patrick...20 texts/calls to him 7/2. Then it waned rapidly on 7/3 & 7/4. Patrick essentially only replied to Casey via text. We dunno much 'bout Patrick do we?
 
When I read on the ?'s thread Lexus=TL, I almost fainted. I keep having a vague notion that I had heard early on that TL worked pt at Lexus. I had nothing to substantiate my memory and noone else has ever brought it up. Yesterday I was on the verge of posing the question but held back.

But then, the 7/2 call does not fit. Unless KC knew someone else there too and called them to see when TL was coming back. Far fetched?
 
When I read on the ?'s thread Lexus=TL, I almost fainted. I keep having a vague notion that I had heard early on that TL worked pt at Lexus. I had nothing to substantiate my memory and noone else has ever brought it up. Yesterday I was on the verge of posing the question but held back.

But then, the 7/2 call does not fit. Unless KC knew someone else there too and called them to see when TL was coming back. Far fetched?

Maybe just trading one mystery for another...still...it's only speculation.

Casey was in contact w/ Tony while he was in NY. So, there was no reason for her to be asking someone else about his travel plans, IMHO.

Just for grins, we know Clint moved out of the apartment ~7/1. And we know Casey texted Clint a few mins after calling Lexus 7/2, @ 10:16PM. Perhaps Casey was trying to locate someone that would let her into Tony's apartment, let her borrow keys, etc. If one of Clint's buddies worked @ Lexus (e.g. Patrick?) then that would be one plausible explanation...but that is pure, adulterated speculation.
 
Bond, when was TL's apt. broken into? Maybe it was Clint who worked at Lexus. She was seeing if the apt. would be empty then - after 10 on 7/2? What was taken from Sutton Place? Do we know? Or did she stay the night there (crash) knowing it was empty.
 
KC was insecure about TL. She wanted to get a third party opinion that he'd be coming back. He teased her on and off about staying in NY. That is why she would inquire as to what someone else knew of TL's intentions. Come on Bond, you can't be all stats!
 
Bond, when was TL's apt. broken into? Maybe it was Clint who worked at Lexus. She was seeing if the apt. would be empty then - after 10 on 7/2? What was taken from Sutton Place? Do we know? Or did she stay the night there (crash) knowing it was empty.

8-page thread in the main forum re: Break in @ Tony's Apt. here. FWIW, around page 6 it becomes commentary. Had we known about the incident nearer the time of the occurrence we could've looked it up online, but, these records expire - I checked :rolleyes:

In summary, we don't know the actual date the apt. break-in allegedly occurred. We have Clint moving out 7/1. Tony & Cameron gone. Nate's whereabouts unknown, IIRC. Except for very brief pings on 7/1 (prolly passing by on her way to Jesses' for the shower), Casey didn't ping near Tony's apartment after Clint left and before Tony returned - not that pings account for her 24/7...but pretty darn close.

Casey 'stayed' @ Amy's 7/2...was out until 3:39AM morning of 7/3.

Hope that helps.
 
Do any paths cross between TL's facebook and the Orlando Lexus facebook?? Any mutual friends?

This (Facebook for Lexus of Orlando characters) was the focus of quite a few WS's in ~Dec-Jan. That didn't pan out IIRC.

One we looked @ extensively was Melina C and her near-doppleganger listed in Facebook of Orlando...but that was a potential-Casey-Lexus, not potential-Tony-Lexus connection. Perhaps the Tony connection wasn't as thoroughly sleuthed out, INTN. :waitasec:
 
8-page thread in the main forum re: Break in @ Tony's Apt. here. FWIW, around page 6 it becomes commentary. Had we known about the incident nearer the time of the occurrence we could've looked it up online, but, these records expire - I checked :rolleyes:

In summary, we don't know the actual date the apt. break-in allegedly occurred. We have Clint moving out 7/1. Tony & Cameron gone. Nate's whereabouts unknown, IIRC. Except for very brief pings on 7/1 (prolly passing by on her way to Jesses' for the shower), Casey didn't ping near Tony's apartment after Clint left and before Tony returned - not that pings account for her 24/7...but pretty darn close.

Casey 'stayed' @ Amy's 7/2...was out until 3:39AM morning of 7/3.

Hope that helps.

Well, I never said that stats aren't important.:bowdown:
 
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In a way I would think that she would not save the debt collector's message. But I recalled in one of the computer forensic reports a listing of KC's cell phone payments. Here are the final three from 2008:

7/15/2008 $574.60
6/25/2008 $377.33
5/6/2008 $574.60

Have you or any of the other super-sleuths noticed a pattern of calls initiated by KC in the periods after the debt notices and prior to payments that might show she was contacting someone in order to make quick money to pay off the large cell bills before she was cut-off? (Also, IIRC, she was also in this situation at the time all hell broke loose on 7/15; Lee said her phone was shut off 7/15 or 7/16 and the Anthony's had to pay the bill to get her cell history/info.)
 
Here's a suggestion...consider that the Lexus Dealership is across the street from Full Sail. Most dealerships now have nice waiting rooms for their customers while their cars are serviced....big screen tv's, internet access :online:, etc. Perhaps Tony used the Lexus waiting room as a place to hang out :chillpill: between classes/labs.

Here's how that thought ties to the events of 6/24AM... :idea:

Speculation - Casey's cell battery died during her call w/ Tony and he called her back...except...Tony called G&C's house.

At 9:56AM we know Casey (at Tony's apt) took an incoming call from Tony for an 11min convo. The convo ended @ 10:07AM

Then, we have the 10:03AM call from Lexus to G&C's home phone for 7 seconds. (Check my time please as I'm referring to above post for this timestamp...I don't have the source doc). Also note that one may allow a shift in the timestamps when comparing since the landline provider's clock and the cell provider's clock are independent.

Perhaps outta habit, if Casey's cell battery went down @ 10:07AM :talker: mid-conversation :curses:, Tony dialed Casey's home phone :doh:. Or, Casey may have even told Tony she was going to G&C's when he left for class that morning :rolleyes:. George answered the call at home, "Hello. Hello? ... [click]" (speculation) ...that'd take 'bout 7 seconds.

At 11:20AM Casey called Lexus for a 6min convo.

...then...

64mins later, completely unprovoked, (e.g. no sign of a messages waiting system notification) Casey called her vmail.

One might do this if one is expecting a call and one's battery was dead or phone was off...eh?​
Consider that Lexus of Orlando is directly across the street (University Blvd) from Full Sail University and closer than walking/driving all the way back to Sutton Place Apts. One can get a real sense for the proximity by viewing this in the street-level view of Google Maps. In Tony's statements to LE early in the case he mentioned that he might hang w/ friends after class/labs before meeting up w/ Casey. Methinks Lexus may have been one the places Tony hung out.

Perhaps, as a means to preserve Tony's cell phone minutes, or poor cell connection on campus...or...whatever, Casey may have been calling the Lexus switchboard to be routed to the service waiting room to talk to Tony.

ETA: So...why did Lexus "appear" 6/16 and stop 7/2? :confused: One reason they may have started 6/16 was owing to Casey's freedom to talk during this period vs. pre-6/16. Perhaps Tony's class/lab schedule changed (IIRC, there was some mention of this happening @ one point in his statements).


Ok, I like that idea maybe, but I think you are onto something. I took a peak at the Lexus of Orlando, they have a virtual tour which yes, shows the waiting room-Nice!! Hangout-not likely-but maybe I am wrong-Free internet access-gourmet coffee-but doesnt look like a place you could go and "chill" and have people contact you on the switchboard-maybe Im wrong-Maybe Tony had a friend who worked there-

I know LA does things with cars-lots-parking-have we ever ruled him out?
 
Ok, I like that idea maybe, but I think you are onto something. I took a peak at the Lexus of Orlando, they have a virtual tour which yes, shows the waiting room-Nice!! Hangout-not likely-but maybe I am wrong-Free internet access-gourmet coffee-but doesnt look like a place you could go and "chill" and have people contact you on the switchboard-maybe Im wrong-Maybe Tony had a friend who worked there-

I know LA does things with cars-lots-parking-have we ever ruled him out?

my bold

Could Lexus have a contract with the company LA works for? Perhaps parking customers' cars when they come in to look at a Lexus? Would LA be "on-site" or is he higher up in the food chain of the company?

I doubt a Lexus dealership would like students hanging out in their waiting area. But I guess stranger things have happened and it certainly would solve the "Lexus connection".
 
ok re watched the lexus of orlando virtual tour. I noticed, which I hadnt before, that besides the lounge with the coffee. tables etc, ( which had no phones that I could visibly see), they had what appears to be more than coffee , it looks like a restaurant, maybe she ordered food from there and then met Tony? Maybe she knew someone in the Food dept, she got it for free or discounted.Maybe Tony ate there for lunch? They also have a "Quiet Lounge", and a "Playroom":confused:

So now Im wondering: I guess the "quiet lounge" would have phones ,maybe even computers?or no? Maybe Tony did hang in that room and could go unnoticed.. or maybe she dropped Caylee off there and someone was able to work and watch her and she could play in the room until they got off? That person might be sitting at the reception desk in order to keep an eye on her, a female I would guess....I strongly believe LEXUS holds some very important information, I got to think that LE knows who it is ,hopefully we will find out soon. Could it be Ryan( possible bio dad) anyone?? :bang:
 
ok re watched the lexus of orlando virtual tour. I noticed, which I hadnt before, that besides the lounge with the coffee. tables etc, ( which had no phones that I could visibly see), they had what appears to be more than coffee , it looks like a restaurant, maybe she ordered food from there and then met Tony? Maybe she knew someone in the Food dept, she got it for free or discounted.Maybe Tony ate there for lunch? They also have a "Quiet Lounge", and a "Playroom":confused:

So now Im wondering: I guess the "quiet lounge" would have phones ,maybe even computers?or no? Maybe Tony did hang in that room and could go unnoticed.. or maybe she dropped Caylee off there and someone was able to work and watch her and she could play in the room until they got off? That person might be sitting at the reception desk in order to keep an eye on her, a female I would guess....I strongly believe LEXUS holds some very important information, I got to think that LE knows who it is ,hopefully we will find out soon. Could it be Ryan( possible bio dad) anyone?? :bang:

I don't think it's RP. In his interview with LE, he tells YM he works at a place where he can get him a cell phone. I'm going to read the rest of the interview to see if there's any other mention of a workplace. It might be worth going over the old interviews to see if there's anything there that jumps out as a possible connection to Lexus.
 
What was the actual Lexus number called?

When looking at the Lexus website, it lists out the specific departments of Lexus.... does it match a dept number or just a general Lexus number that a switchboard operator would answer and direct?




Maybe we need to think bigger.....higher up.....who owns the Lexus dealership??? Any connection to the Fusion group .... or the group that put up her reward money?
 
The phone number 0000 goes to the Parts Dept. which is on Driggs Blvd. The areas being described are probably near the Showroom? Or Service area? Where is the Service area located, Semoran or Driggs? I would think the Service area would be near the Parts Dept. The Showroom is on Semoran.
 
What was the actual Lexus number called?

When looking at the Lexus website, it lists out the specific departments of Lexus.... does it match a dept number or just a general Lexus number that a switchboard operator would answer and direct?




Maybe we need to think bigger.....higher up.....who owns the Lexus dealership??? Any connection to the Fusion group .... or the group that put up her reward money?

Jimmy B. is the owner.
 
I don't think it's RP. In his interview with LE, he tells YM he works at a place where he can get him a cell phone. I'm going to read the rest of the interview to see if there's any other mention of a workplace. It might be worth going over the old interviews to see if there's anything there that jumps out as a possible connection to Lexus.

He used to work at Sports Authority (back when KC lied about working there). He was in school up in Jacksonville until recently per the dating site info.
 
How do we access docstock? Does one have to sign up or in or something? I can't access Clint's interview.

I'm notioning (word?) that one of TL's roomies worked at Lexus.
 
Not Nanny, Have you read the whole thread? We've been trying to come up with the contact there for awhile now. The answer has not surfaced yet. I'm pretty sure 0000=parts location because of a google connection that indicated that number for parts as well as a four employee Auto Team Management Inc. section located there too.

So far who KC called there remains a mystery - ugh!
 

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